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ted kennedy, his uncle, never picked up his diploma from uva because, in 1959, he was working on his brother john's presidential campaign. he presented kennedy with the diplomas at the end of today's ceremony. this is just under 20 minutes. [applause] >> thank you for that righteous introduction. howsitate to figure out many members of congress are named joe but i hope it is not that many. congratulations to you and your family and your tenure at uva. thank you for the privilege of participating in this event. from corporate left academia to the supreme court and the horizons of legal reform, there is not a piece of our legal system that you have not touched. service, youryour vision, your dogged dedication. to the class of 2014 and all of your family and friends, congratulations on an extraordinary achievement. countlessurvived hours in the law library, a few too many long nights, endless caffeine drips, and your fair competition. all of that behind you, and the only thing standing between you and that's diploma is me. [laughter] saying thatommon the three best years you'll have is a

because he thought, nixon thought ted kennedy would be his opponent in '72, and so he wanted to get the goods on him. .. they went out to california and they raided the office of dan ellsberg's psychiatrist to get his psychiatric files. imagine that. the white house sending someone else to get someone's psychiatric files. there was one problem. they tasted. there were no files. they broke in okay, and they had a picture taken. two of them, the leaders have their picture taken and they were so proud in front of the doctor's office door. they were using cia's equipment, cameras, voice changers. and so the cia got these pictures and said, what's this? this is a violation of fourth amendment beyond anything we could imagine. that's what make nixon, that's t the cover-up was really about. fortunately, for the country the plumbers were stumblebum's but they messed up everything they did. or we would've been far deeper trouble. living through watergate it was just an amazing time. things are coming at you all the time. fortunately, with all due respect we didn't have cable or it would've b

ted kennedy was a terrible candidate until the race was over. kennedy was shackled. kennedy became a candidate people thought he was going to be. this is what happened with hillary. it was almost as if once the door was closed, and the map was that she could not win, she became free and became an amazingly good candidate in those final months when the math was -- the race with mathematically over. isehow looking at it, that not present in what we see in this presentation. what we see is back to the excessive caution, the calculation, the timidity. walking on egg shells. for her to win she cannot get the lessons of 2008. >> we all know because we've had the privilege of spending time with her, she is likable. she has a personality in private goreike mitt romney and al have trouble displaying in the context of public persona. she was noting unlikable, but i didn't see moments that would lead people to think new about horse feel this is the person i want back. she is rusty. cautious.what she does it want to make mistake. she does want to send things in the wrong directi

because he thought that ted kennedy would be his opponent in 1972, and said he wanted to get the goodson him. he always wanted him to get the goods on people. the main person he wanted to get the goods on of course was daniel ellsberg who headed the pentagon papers. he was worked up about this and had nixon worked up and there was actually than committed probably the most dangerous and nixon understood this. he was far more concerned about the following having been found out in the water gate break-in. and that is burglars in the plumbers, they were plumbing for the leaking. they went to the office of daniel ellsberg's psychiatrist to get his psychiatric files. now, imagine that. the white house sending somebody out, to then and the psychiatric files. there was one problem though. there were no files. they broke into okay. and they had their picture taken. the leaders had their picture taken and they were so proud in front of the doctor's office store. and they were using cia equipment, cameras, voice changers, and so the cia got these pictures and said what's this? this is a violation

it's a rare issue that can unite ted kennedy, me and george miller. [laughter] somebody told me that george miller was here. we found common ground. schools must demonstrate improved results on reading and math for minority children, or face consequences if they don't. it's hard to imagine that anything so basic could be so controversial. >> "awesome guy." what does that sound like? >> typical george bush. >> what does that mean? >> he speaks in a very colloquial fashion. he has always been that way. it's pretty refreshing. >> how did you get along with them? >> we got along with him because he was doing something i had never seen done before, where as governor he was prepared to take responsibility for the performance of each and every child. it wasn't a perfect system, but i have never seen anyone willing to break out how each child was doing in a fourth grade class. i was intrigued by that, because i could see what was happening in my district. the averages were a way to hide the poor performance of half of the student body in an elementary school,

i remember harold dicky said it reminded him of ted kennedy in 1980 that ted kennedy was a terrible candidatel the race was over and when he knew carter was going to win kennedy was unshackled and he became the kennedy became the person people wanted him to be. once the door was closed and math was such she could not win she suddenly became free and became a good candidate when the race was mathematically over. and somehow that's, but somehow that's been at least at this moment looking at it, that unshackledness is not in this book and presentation. we see the excessive caution, the calculation the kind of timidity, the walking on egg shells. for her to win,ly cannot forget the lessons of the spring of 2008. >> i'll say another thing i don't think was in evidence this week which is we all know because we've had the privilege of getting to spend some time with her over the years she is very likeable. she's in private like mitt romney and al gore had a problem with public persona. i don't think she was unlikeable this week but i feel a lot of moments that would lead people to thinkh is a person

used to be used every time a southern democrat would operate, they would rope it around ted kennedy.what's happening here. this is base politics at its very worst. it is not to say that democrats haven't been guilty of this stuff in cycles past. but today, it is republican ball game day. >> to that point, perry, it strikes me, was it a good thing then for them to leak -- we all -- but to leak it to a reporter and get it out early sort of as a prebuttal, but to the actual release of the book on june 10th? >> hillary clinton is playing politics, too. this book is being rolled out very carefully. this book is part of a likely presidential campaign. i think the republicans are appropriately obsessed with someone who is running for president who has very high poll ratings. i think they should be obsessed. they should be looking to talk about this. that's why hillary clinton has sort after war room set-up to deal with the attacks in the book. this is the presidential campaign. we are here, unfortunately, really early and it is starting. i think she is right to view benghazi as a potential

john mccain from a border state and ted kennedy. provided border security, about you we couldn't get it passed. now repeated efforts to do something similar to mccain/kennedy. and the gridlock in congress and the te party who will not get this done. border security is the answer to -- >> let me share with you one of the results of this that's really troubling for my state. if we have a major natural disaster, which from time to time we have. think katrina, if you will, think rita as it pushed literally hundreds of thousands of people up into our state. with these children and these individuals that are being housed in federal facilities and in state facilities that are being used for this, we do not have the capacity to be able to take care of our citizens. and that is of an extraordinary concern to me. >> i want to get to one or topic. >> if i could, you have to have comprehensive immigration reform. it can't be a patchwork. that's what mccain/kennedy was. learn english, border security, path to citizenship. >> don't you think you

using the alias ted t kennedy. they tried to resolve the mistaken identity cases quickly. what is tougher when they have gotten information from perhaps a source overseas, signal intelligence that suggests to be on the list. they don't want to say what the information is. it's very difficult for people to challenge the designation. >> the no-fly list, of course, established in 2001 right after the attacks. according to the fbi there are some roughly 20,000 names on the list. 500 of whom are u.s. citizens. are there that many people that pose an imminent threat? 20,000 seems like a lot. >> it does seem a like a lot of people. it's difficult to describe what it is that gets them on the list. the fbi keeps a larger list of everyone who there is a reasonable suspicious they might be a terrorist. and no-fly list is a subset of that. they maintain the list. they say they keep it up to date, then the department of homeland security with the transportation security administration they consult the list and find out whether

then they turned to the crowd and ted kennedy and i rushed out. i grabbed howard. he grabbed nancy, and we did the bipartisan boogie through the night. those are the days that one remembers, and that's kind of the spirit that the senate had. and that's kind of spirit that senator howard baker did, that you could argue, you could debate, and so on. but deep down, the senate should be the saucer that cools irrational passions of the time. he was a great leader and he created this atmosphere of being able to come together and solve problems. so whether it was on the senate floor or whether it was on the dance floor, he really spoke about the need for bipartisanship. and senator nancy kassebaum-baker is exactly the same way. so remembering with such fondness, we want to express our condolences about him and certainly to her, as just one woman to another. so, madam president, i also come to the floor today to talk about another sadness, the sadness about the fact that the nigerian schoolgirls who were abducted by boko haram continue to be held in captivity. and i come t

she raises money in the way that ted kennedy used to raise money. they needed democratic person.ttacking hillary and being on hillary clinton is a way to keep their supporters sending money. >> it will be interesting to see for public and to thought it will be an easy way to sell a book. there are certain grassroots that will always give a low dollar amount when they see her name. >> i think there has been an evolution on the way that people look at her. it had to do with her senate service. it had to do and she had views of her own. >> if the neoconservatives want to come after her for being soft on foreign policy, she is not that soft. they are really passing their sell by date because people don't want to go into wars at this point. there are none that are worth fighting right now. >> her position on syria is interesting. she clearly -- a lot a people think because of the advice the president got from petraeus, hillary, and others that he ought to do more at that time. i think it is viewed now as almost -- from what i hear from foreign sources and people in the middle east thi

you know, in the course of the hearing i quoted ted kennedy who when democrats tried this back in 1997y observed for over 200 years we have nod amended the bill of rights and now is not the time to start. this should trouble everyone elected democrats are trying to give congress the foremuzzle citizens, to muzzle those planned parenthood and national right to life, to muzzle the nra and muzzle labor unions and muzzle individual citizens, to ban books and movies and that is contrary to the most fundamental protections our democracy is built on. >> it relates back to citizens united airlines a supreme court decision that the democrats and president remains very unhappy with. senator, thanks for being here. >> thank you. i'm very proud that so many people are standing up and are in fact using the #don'trepe the #don'trepeal1a. >>> a couple of primary contests that could affect the balance of power in the senate. that's next. >>> plus in the hours after the bergdahl deal was announced, brad thor shared a dramatic story from his many sources in the military and in the middle east. brad thor

[laughter] >> and i went, i was chief counsel and i went to ted kennedy and i said, i am not going toell you how to vote. but this is a person of great integrity and he deserves your vote. you should not keep it in committee. this is not a situation in which you ought to try to prevent him from becoming solicitor general. there was a vote. he was obviously confirmed. but mary and i both enjoy lady and ted enormously. >> this is the dedication. and to my mother who is still do me a passion for learning and reading and writing. well said. >> thank you. >> thank you. ♪ >> this week on "political capital," ralph reed talks about evangelicals in 2016. obama v cheney. margaret colson and megan mcardle debate common core and renaming the redskins. we begin the program with the chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed. thank you for being with us. your conference is this weekend. almost all oth

[laughter] >> and i went, i was chief counsel and i went to ted kennedy and i said, i am not going toell you how to vote. but this is a person of great integrity and he deserves your vote. you should not keep it in committee. this is not a situation in which you ought to try to prevent him from becoming solicitor general. there was a vote. he was obviously confirmed. but mary and i both enjoy lady and ted enormously. >> this is the dedication. and to my mother who is still do me a passion for learning and reading and writing. well said. >> thank you. >> thank you. ♪ >> live from pier 3 in san francisco, welcome to "bloomberg west" where we cover innovation in the future of business. >> here are some top stories making headlines. according to people familiar with the matter. this after the cloud storage provider delayed its ipo. talks are at the early stage to be determined. apple is proposing a new smart watch according to reports. "the wall street journal" is multiple versions will be in production with an expected release later this fall.

nixon didn't understand he's one of these people who gets caught, like ted kennedy gets caught.et away with everything and some people get caught. nixon led his life as if he wasn't going to get caught, and he did. >> he had real paranoid tendency. he had demons. i mean, i remember jerry ford once said to me, richard nixon was the 90% a good person, there was 5% or 10% of his persona that was bad. and at time, the bad just simply overwhelmed the vast majority of the good nixon. and it usually came in situations like this, chris, where he felt like he'd been screwed his entire life by political enemies and it was time for payback. >> i can remember henry kissinger said of nixon, if only someone has loved him. unbelievable. thank you, tom defrank, doug brinkley. i always look to your history books. we'll be right back after this. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow. that's why i always choose the fastest intern. the fastest printer. the fastest lunch. turkey club. the fastest pencil sharpener. the fastest elevator. the fastest speed dial. the fastest office plant. s

[laughter] >> and i went, i was chief counsel of the senate judiciary committee and i went to ted kennedynd i said, i am not going to tell you how to vote. but this is a person of great integrity and he deserves a vote. you should not keep it in committee. this is not a situation in which you ought to try to prevent him from becoming solicitor general. there was a vote. he was obviously confirmed. >> exactly. >> but i, i -- mary and i both enjoy lady and ted enormously. we have great fun. >> i have been there so i know how much you enjoy each other. this is the dedication to my wife. which isand great mind always there when i need to. and to my daughter, whose career, love and dedication to justice inspire me everyday. andady, my loving wife partner, and and to my mother who instilled in me a passion for learning and reading and writing. well said. >> thank you. >> thank you. ♪ >> the following is a paid presentation for focus t25. >> it is about time. >> the number one reason people people have for not working out is they don't have time. >> i have four kids. i work 60 or 70 hours a week

chairman, i agree with ted kennedy and russ feingold, and where are the liberals today? why is there not a liberal standing here defending the bill of rights and the first amendment? mr. chairman, 42 democrats have signed their name to a constitutional amendment that would give congress the power to muzzle planned parenthood and the national right to life. 42 democrats have signed their name to giving congress the right to muzzle the sierra club. to muzzle the national rifle association and the brady center on hand gun violence. to muzzle michael moore and da souza. to muzzle the teamsters, muzzle the naacp, pastors and priests and rabbis who organize their parishioners to be involved in politics. mr. chairman, i am today introducing two bills to further protect the free speech rights of individuals. i will be discussing those later in this hearing. but i would note, this amendment, if adopted, would give congress the power to ban books and to ban movies. and by the way, citizens united was about finding a movie maker who made a movie critical of hillary clinton. mr. cha

and it wasn't just ted kennedy. there were other democrats who opposed the nixon administrati administration's restriction on trade with canada. senator proxmire of wisconsin, senator mcintyre of new hampshire. i think we've had -- we've had such an opportunity on this floor to debate the merits of the keystone x.l. pipeline, to debate not only how many good-paying jobs that they can bring to us but how it can help this nation and canada as -- as we work to promote our north american energy independence. our energy partnership with canada has taken decades to develop. it's had some rocky times. but all good and worthy relationships take a little bit of work to maintain. and so if the obama administration is unwilling to do the hard work of diplomacy and make this remarkably easy decision approving a job-creating and a security enhancing pipeline, then i think it's time for congress to act. and that's why, mr. president, a few of us have gathered here today to -- to move this issue forward, to do more than just talki

he worked with ted kennedy and later was chief counselor of the senate agriculture committee. in 1988 he founded the well-known government relations firm with his brother tony. he served president clinton as to be the chief of staff and then as white house chief of staff until 2001. he was co-chairman of obama's transition team in 2008. he is the proud father of air force captain gabe podesta. so much for prior review. now to the process portion of our program. anga a gas alliance is sponsoring today's breakfast. our thanks to them, for sitting at the table back there keeping me from the pain of premature retirement. sponsors or not, we are on the record here. no live blogging and no filing of any kind while the breakfast is underway to give us time to listen to what the guest says. there will be no embargo at the end. as regular attendees know the "monitor" breakfast is one of the last bastions of fusty folkways. do the traditional thing and send me a subtle nonthreatening signal, and i will happily call on everyone with the time we have available. we will move to questions a

. >> do you mean to say you really believe that john kerry and ted kennedy do not believe in defendinglenges miller's position in front of a live audience. >> i wish i was over there, where i could get a little closer up into your face. >> this idea that somehow his face in my face would be somehow intimidating. and then -- somehow that would be almost a -- a aggressive move toward me. it was really hilarious. >> you believe, senator, truthfully, that john kerry wants to defend the country with spit balls. you believe that? >> that was a metaphor, wasn't it? you know what a metaphor is? >> i said a metaphor for what? metaphors have to be for something? what are you actually saying here? and he just got very angry at me. >> i think we ought to cancel this interview. >> well, i don't mean -- >> playful banter explodes into an old-school challenge of honor. at 20 paces. >> get out of my face! if you're going to ask me a question, step back and let me answer. >> senator -- >> you know, i wish -- i wish -- i wish we lived in the day where you could challenge a person to a duel. now that wou

she was the democratic candidate in the special election to replace the late ted kennedy.n america, massachusetts, she somehow lost to scott brown. do you remember how traumatic a moment this was for democrats everywhere and how triumphant it was for the tea party? barack obama was one year into his presidency, the recession was worsening, his poll numbers were falling and health care seemed to be hanging in the balance. democrats had exactly 60 votes in the senate. well, they had those 60 votes until that loss left them with just 59. on the eve of the loss, barney frank declared that, quote, if scott brown wins, it will kill the health bill. actually that's just about what everybody thought back then. what made democrats really mad is that they believed coakley had blown it that, she had squandered what should have been an easy win with some mortal self-inflicted wounds, like the vacation she took just three weeks before election day. when she came back from that vacation and answered a question about whether she was taking the race for granted by saying, quote, as oppose

laughter) >> and i, of course, had been chief counsel of the senate judiciary committee, and i went to ted kennedynd i said, obviously, i'm not going to try to tell you how to vote, but this is a person of great integrity, and he deserves a vote. you shouldn't keep it in committee. this is not a situation in which you ought to try to prevent him from becoming solicitor general. >> charlie: so what happened? it was reported there was a vote, and he was obviously confirmed. >> charlie: exactly. but i and mary both enjoy ted enormously. >> charlie: i have been there so i know how much you enjoy each other's company. >> exactly. >> charlie: this is the dedication to my wife mary and boys, auld there when i need them and my daughter carol boies whose courage and love of justice inspire me every day. to my wife. and to my mother who instilled many me a passion or learning, reading and writing. well said. thank you. >> thank you. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >>> this is "nightly business report" with tyler mathisen and susie gharib. >

this is the crowd that had the information and they -- i'll use ted kennedy's line from way back, cooked the books. it was a coordinated campaign of deception that lasted for years and i have a hangover. we were told about mushroom clouds, weapons of mass destruction, all one big lie. let's not forget, now the same people who worked in the bush administration are out and about trying to retutor this country on exactly what happened and let's give a little advice on iraq. that's where they are. now who are you believing? karl rove who was known as bush's brain, he ran to the tv cameras on monday night. rove agreed with bill o'reilly that there should be about 10,000 troops still on the ground in iraq. >> we're better off if we've got something guide these planes in -- >> i don't think anybody opposes -- >> i shouldn't say that, most people would not oppose that but i don't think you're going to get a mass force -- they should have left 10,000 behind, should have left 10,000 behind and we didn't. we have to deal with reality now. >> we have to deal with reality that bill o'reilly has zero

the party of sex on demand, the party of bill clinton, the party of monica lewinsky, the party of ted kennedyave to say about morals? >> sex on demand, where's this planet he lives in? where's this? anyway, is he going to be a united states senator from anywhere, even mississippi. a democratic strategist and president of emily's list, and amy water. amy, i've got to ask you this, sex, what is it on demand, sex for everybody? i'm curious, i'm just curious. i don't know where else to go. i could go to stephanie, i could ask myself, but it sounds like -- what world is he talking to that believes there's going to be sex on demand? what is this world? >> i don't know. we're on the internet maybe. is that what it comes to? push a button. >> physical world for everybody if the democrats take over. i know a lot of prudish democrats that will be surprised at this, this is a strange world to live in. anyway, how far can you go in mississippi and get away with it? is he too far to get away with anything? >> i think he is crossing over the line, i really do, and it's interesting to see this runoff. he's

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she raises money in the way ted kennedy used to raise money for them and in the way they need a democratic person and for attacking hillary, being on hillary clinton is a way of keeping their supports up. >> it will be interesting to see for republicans it's not an easy way to sell a book or easy way to sell a list. there are certain grassroots that will give a low dollar amount when they see her name on something. >> rose: i think it's an evolution rather than as to do of hers. she's a long way from where she was as first lady. it had to do with her secretary of stateship and because she'd views on her own. >> that's right. >> if the neoconservatives want to come after her one thing we see she isn't that soft but they really have passed their sell-by date because the american people don't want to go into wars at this point. there are none i can see right now that are worth fighting. >> rose: i don't think i mentioned this but her position on syria is interesting. she clearly, and i think a lot of people think because of the advice that the president got from petraeus, from panetta, from h

ted kennedy he had seventy four legislative days rated filibuster proof senate which it's actually surprised how much he got done during that period of time but. these it seems like in the republican party these days we've got a choice and we're seeing this in the in the whip vote between the tea party guys who are backed by billionaires or the corporate republicans who are backed by the chamber of commerce of multinational corporations and whatever happened to the eisenhower republicans who actually were backed by the average working guy my dad you know worked in a union shop and back to eisenhower and in one hundred fifty six the republican platform said that the republican party wanted to extend protection the federal minimum wage laws to as many workers as possible according from the platform to strengthen and improve the federal state and employment service to improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment as a race creed color national origin ancestry or sex protect the right of workers to unionize to organize in the un

ted kennedy was the only missing vote. i won never forget that night because i went around to democrats and republicans 40 days later. i said to them, i have the votes to carry this and this is the kind of vote that could end your career. i understand if you felt you needed to. gordon smith, republican senator from oregon, i went to him and said you were up in 40 days. if you need to take a pass on this -- his colleague was going to vote against the bill of the time. i was never forget his answer. he said he has the face the constituent tomorrow morning. he is not sure how to explain the vote. he said the constituent is the mirror. i have to believe this is the right thing to do for the country. he cast a vote for it and 40 days later he lost his seat in the senate. the point is that was a tough vote. i couldn't agree with barney more. i will go to my grave believing we did the right thing for the country at that moment. had we not done so, we will be looking at a very different place today. i know historians will talk abo

. >>> 20 years ago today the late senator ted kennedy of massachusetts became the first member of congress it was launched with help from students at the artificial intelligence lab at m.i.t. look at the little tabs at the top. what's new? what's cool? 20 years later the internet machine does more than it used to. want to know who cared about beyonce's last record and for how long they cared about it? we can do that now visually on the internet machine. we can also tell you how many people still care about last week's biggest scandal in america, and it turns out that data is going to be very, very useful this week in washington and in a very specific way. that's straight ahead. stay with us. (music) defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed. but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive, i had to do something. i saw my doctor. a blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. we talked about axiron the only underarm low t treatment that can restore t levels to normal in about two weeks in most me

ted kennedy says it was a vote for war. james carville and paul begala who says anyone that says that vote wasn't a vote for war is bunk. >> if i had a lot of paper in front of me, i could quote people who say something very differently. >> according to excerpts from her new book, her position couldn't be clearer. she writes, quote, many senators came to wish they had voted against the resolution. i was one of them. as the war dragged on with every letter i sent to a family in new york who lost a son and daughter, a father or mother, my mistake became more painful. i thought i had acted in good faith and made the best decision i could with the information i had, and i wasn't alone in getting it wrong, but i still got it wrong. plain and simple. david corn, i think when i see something as leerily stated as that, i have to say how impressed i am. this isn't a statement, well, i went with what i had at the time, all the usual stuff we hear. it's a statement, wrong. i was wrong. plain and simple. that to me is impressive politi

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. >> this will really be about -- like ted kennedy sued nixon over pocket vetoes.und out about that resolution in the mid-'70s, well after nixon left office. this is really about setting the parameters of the next president. >> and i think it's also partially when a president is weakened, people attack. if you looked at the nixon era, the -- >> when it dips below 45. >> the war powers act all passed because nixon was weakened. >> very quickly. >> i think the case can go much more rapidly. the nixon tapes case went in six months. if the supreme court views this as urgent, it's not going to sit and daudle. >> the biggest winners are law school deans everywhere. >> good exam questions. >> absolutely. anyway, stan brand, bruce fine, thank you both for bringing your expertise today. we'll be back in three minutes. before we go to break, our tdr soup of the day comes from rehoboth beach, delaware. they're serving up shrimp chowder. we'll be right back. nobody ever stomped their foot and asked for less. because what we all really want... ...is more. there's a reason it's

. >> to indict remember carlos gutierrez and ted kennedy losing and immigration voted number of years ago. did washington lose the immigration debate last night? >> the first take on this is that, yes, absolutely, one of the big things dave brat campaigned on is that cantor was too soft on immigration and had opened the door to the possibility of younger legal immigrants, children being able to get some sort of permanent status in the united states, perhaps legal status. you have to be careful, it will not happen on the short-term term it look what happened to lindsay ray m woosnam name was on the senate bill that cleared -- look what happened to lindsay graham. you cannot draw such a conclusion so quickly. you can say in the short term there is no chance for an immigration bill coming out of the house of representatives anytime sent. john banner will have to watch his back and every member of the house leadership will have to watch their back after this. >> the criticism was that mr. cantor was too soft on immigration. that's on the one hand but on the other, it's a victory for the t