that is the perfect way to honor the memory of ted kennedy. thank you. >> kennedy family, distinguished guests. senator kennedy loved music and celebration, and you cannot have one without the other. we are happy to provide some of that. this is one of his favorite songs. feel free to sing along. ♪ >> ♪ there's a bright golden haze on the meadow there's a bright golden haze on the meadow the corn is as high as an elephant's eye and it looks like it is climbing clear up to the sky o, what a beautiful morning o, what a beautiful day i got a beautiful feeling everything's going my way all the cattle are standing like statutes all the cattle are standing like statues they don't turn their heads as they see me drive by, that little brown maverick is winking her eye o, what a beautiful morning o, what a beautiful day i got a beautiful feeling everything is going my way ♪ ♪ ♪ all the sounds of the earth are like music all the sounds of the earth are like music the breeze is so busy it don't miss a tree and an old weepin' willer is laughin' at me o, wh

they know who ted kennedy was.r again with genuine effort and affection in an era when bipartisanship have become so very rare. they knew him as somebody who kept his word they knew him as somebody who was willing to take a half a loaf and endure the anger of his own supporters to get something done. they knew him as somebody who was not afraid and fear so permeates our politics and set of hope. people fight people fight to get in the senate and i've been afraid. we fight to get these positions and then don't want to do anything with them. ted understood, the only.of running for office was to get something done not to posture not to sit there worrying about the next election or the polls to take risk. he understood the difference is a body of a body of philosophy cannot become barriers to cooperation or respect. he could howl any justice on the senate floor like a force of nature. trying to figure trying to figure out which chart to pull up next. [laughter] but in his personal feelings he answered edmund randolph's

kennedy institute for the united states senate. when i first talked to vicki, i said, oh, vicki, why me? she said we need a little republican representation, and i know you worked with ted tell me about him and she told me about the vision that senator kennedy had and that she had, the kennedy family has for this great edifice here behind us and i said yes. this is nothing like this anywhere else in america to honor this great institution created in our constitution. and one that senator kennedy dearly loved and made a better place when he was there. oh, yes, we disagreed, we had some fiery discussions, but we came together many times in a bipartisan way to get a result for america. he knew how to give and take and get results. i must say also here today that i thought it was important that we could have somebody that could speak southern other than vicki. [laughter] senator lott: i now know why all the kennedys have so much hair. it to keep their head warm. [laughter] [applause] senator lott: my apologies for not bringing a 75-degree temperature here from mississippi today. i will tell you one story. when i was majority leader in 1997, the legislation that would bring

if ted kennedy is going to deprive women because of some view of what these contraceptives are -- >>ause it's very expensive to get. >> if it provides health care it can provide that. >> using the word deprived to keep women from getting this. >> absolutely. it does have that effect. nine dollars may not be much any of the people here. >> i will tell you this, john i am old enough to have been through the vietnam timeframe. there were conscientious objectors. stossel: many consider it murder. >> i understand the people and the right to life movement can and do believe that performing an abortion is murder. but against those two claims comes somebody who won't deliver pizza to a wedding. so first, let me give my 2 cents, i say in a free country that people should have the right to discriminate. government must not come at the worst of american racism and homophobia and slavery and segregation state bands anti-sodomy laws with government discrimination and it was right for the federal government to intervene and if i start a business with my own money i should be able to serve only lib

all these liberal democrats, massachusetts, the best people up there, barney frank, ted kennedy, josephennedy, they all voted for this law and now the people of massachusetts are saying that they are against it. why are we screwing around in congress? stop passing laws that you don't intend to enforce it? >> it's not so much that they don't intend to enforce it. they are legislators. >> the law says capital punishment. >> and it's enforced by the prosecutor who brings the charge, which you have here. >> i know i'm -- i don't like the way they signed off on the death penalty every 15 minutes either but if you pass a law, you have to believe in what you are doing. >> i'm sure they did. it's out of their hands now. it's now in the hands of the prosecutor. >> what does everybody think this guy is going to do in prison for the rest of his life? he's going to plot and plot and plot. to try to make contact -- >> he'll only be let out for one hour a day. >> everybody thinks that's the nice way to do it. i think it's a softness. this is a brutal world we live in and a premeditated murder of all

your friends, ted kennedy, september 11, 2001. laura bush was scheduled to speak to the education committee on september 11, but then the news was starting to come out of new york, and it put things on hold. and then they realize that the country was under attack and they evacuated her. the gift got left behind. it was not important in that moment. senator kennedy's office sent it on leader to the white house so -- sent it on later to the white house so that it could get to mrs. bush. by that time they had had the anthrax attack, and everything that was mailed to the white house went through irradiation. it was basically microwaved. at first, i do not know much about irradiation, but my understanding is that there are various levels. it was turned up to 11 at the beginning, and then it was toned down at the end. when the threat dissipated. but the glass of this has turned brown because of the irradiation. so in one piece you get such a rich story. this is president bush with senator kennedy in the oval office. they are talking abo

. >> the reason i supported the religious freedom restoration act and ted kennedy and a lot of other people nobody thought it applied to for-profit corporations. the supreme court says it does by a 5-4 decision. >> is it bad? >> and there might be people in some circumstances, but they don't practice religion. hobby lobby, the big case from the past summer. these people make do it yourself flamingos. >> that is so offensive. this is the green family. the green family started their business out of their garage with a $600 loan. they have 26,000 employees. >> let me explain that to the viewers in case they're not on top of hobby lobby. obamacare does demand that businesses care for birth control pills and morning-after pills. this one business sued to say we shouldn't be forced to pay for what we believe to be immoral. last year the supreme court agreed and ruled that hobby lobby and other small privately-held corporations could get exceptions. so christina, congratulations. but it's pathetic. they have to go to court each time, beg for an exemption. >> worst than that the government e

o'malley is, or even think that he was the one that could fill the liberal shoes, the kinds of ted kennedy filled and those kinds of folks. >> we will spend time about her policy positions, and optics are a matter of politics, and she is going to be in new hampshire this week, and some of you are getting on flights to new hampshire to watch this playoff, and it was -- i would say, you know, i might get tough on her about a lot of things, but i might get tougher about that later on, but a candidate has a right to layout their campaign however they want to. >> yeah, she can't win in some respect, going big or small. she has to keep things controlled. i think it was a good conversation. she touched a lot of iowans, and had a lot of private meetings. she will do the same in new hampshire, but she will have to put meat on the bones, and in may she will probably give her big announcement speech. >> i suspect she will be happier the second week because she actually likes new hampshire. >> and they like her. i think it's important to point out the first 72 hours her team made a huge number of call

this relative unknown conservative taking ted kennedy's old senate seat.sachusetts liberal lion scott brown as well. we learned something there. >> the picture on that runner's face is priceless. and he should've known that it's not over until it's over until the fat lady sings, the bottom line is that this race is far from over and it actually just beginning. neil: but you know how it goes. they put their early deaths on long before the race has started and that is how they handicap it. >> that is fine, they can do whatever they want. let's not forget why hillary clinton is waiting a couple more months like she was going to do. always a because of the e-mail scandal in april and the fact that she seems out of touch there's a lack of trustworthiness, she's having to spend money that she didn't want to spend and then it has been lackluster then you throw in the foreign policy problem serious, pressure, and oh my goodness. neil: scott walker, all of these individuals. you remember quite well. but to be fair, you were going for history here. and talk about a

but i know that ted kennedy's people put out the word to the media that they better stay away from this book and it didn't get much pickup. one more anecdote, my mother was going to the party for that book and she got out the plane and said he must be going to my sons party. and he was very gracious and he did get invited after that was he didn't go. something he said about my mother she got everything revolved around me. she also had a crusading spirit and she was a concert pianist and musician and at the same time [inaudible] she said i would pay for this but today other online retailers have proven her right. [inaudible] also when donald trump gave a book party for my book inside palm beach and america's bridges, call it a midlife crisis more parties and more champagne with my wife mother chatted with her in palm beach and later my wife asked my mother what do you think of donald and as control, he's doing a lot of great things for himself and i'm thinking that that was her whole life was music. and so pam comes up with a lot of my book titles for example as additional ideas about th

>> what's funny looking at scrapple because eight years ago, senator ted kennedy came to trolley cariner to campaign for barack obama and what did he have? he had scrapple. >> wow. >> yes. >> serving up famous dishes. >> oh, ya. >> ken, thank you so much for insiting us out. again, from a famous spot in your town, or your neighborhood you would like us to visit with our breakfast with bob segment shoot us an e-mail. go to our website myfoxphilly.com. and we would love to come to your town and sample all of the good eason monday morning mike back to you in the studio. >> by the way the guy the country western singer, look i got to put these glasses on. >> look at that, you got the bling bling. leave it on, trying to get a good look. >> now, turn to the side. turn to the front. >> look at the side. those are mike's glasses. >> came in 5:30, forgot my glasses i had to go down to 7-eleven. i think a lie. really he wanted these glasses. >> oh my good knows! >> the guy up in minnesota, a mom minnesota mom sends out invitations for her daughter's tenth birthday party. guess what? nobody wou

remember his father, ted kennedy, died of brain cancer and his brother lost his leg to cancer. >> i wouldn'ted any member of my family with cancer, and they've all had cancer, anything that would have mitigated the chemo therapy. >> it's why he's meeting with everyone, from the fda to the white house, to speed things up. but it takes time. time the wilsons don't have. they're finally going to try their new homemade cannabis oil. >> we weren't able to get it tested or anything, so we have no idea what it is, which is why we have to be really cautious. >> behind closed doors, brian tries it to make sure he doesn't get high. he doesn't. so vivian is next. it doesn't work. nothing in new jersey seems to work for them. vivian's seizures won't stop. is moving the only option left for the wilsons? why do we do it? why do we spend every waking moment, thinking about people? why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with a conscience? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you, it's everything to us. th

here's my ted kennedy question for you.i want to know. >> what i love the most is for the past 14 years i have worked at e and it's given me this incredible platform to not only have fun every day, but also to use it as a platform to help people. i have been able to share my infertileity journey on television and share that. if i didn't have that hollywood platform, i wouldn't reach so many people. that's what i love. everything else i hate. >> i love it. >> just kidding. not a big hollywood person. i grew up in the washington, d.c. area. i'm an east coast girl. i'm a 1-year-old in italy. i was doing something kind of gross, but i'm a 1-year-old at the time. >> we wouldn't. >> but i'm sorry, go off script for a minute. i'm an east coast girl. my husband is from chicago. we just feel a little more comfortable when we're on the east coast, chicago, so the community, the people, the relationships, i don't have them in los angeles like i do here. >> what were you doing last friday at 11:00 p.m.? >> jenga, no honestly, sleeping.

diplomatic solution, nuclear dispute, and president a few days ago at the inauguration, the late ted kennedy's senate institute, invoking president john f. kennedy when he talked about the need and emphasis to negotiate diplomatic solutions. this could be a new era where the united states is taking a goal with truly everybody in the region. it gives a new opportunity for us to continue to have the leadership of the united states has always intended to have all around the world. host: let's go to our republican line, jacob, north beach maryland. caller: i personally agree with what everyone has said so far about finding a diplomatic solution. however, i do understand why some of the main comments on the facebook page, just replace chamberlain. this starts the path for world wars. i understand, please, give the -- the civilians a better life and a program but we need to make sure we do not have to worry about their military getting a new nuclear arsenal. that is what i have to say. host: reaction on twitter. this is a reaction from members of congress. -- sean is in california, others line. what

remember his father, ted kennedy, died of brain cancer and his brother lost his leg to cancer. >> i wouldn'tany member of my family with cancer, and they've all had cancer, anything that would have mitigated the chemotherapy. >> it's why he's meeting with everyone, from the fda to the white house, to speed things up. but it takes time. time the wilsons don't have. they're finally going to try their new homemade cannabis oil. >> we weren't able to get it tested or anything, so we have no idea what it is, which is why we have to be really cautious. >> behind closed doors, brian tries it to make sure he doesn't get high. he doesn't. so vivian is next. it doesn't work. nothing in new jersey seems to work for them. vivian's seizures won't stop. is moving the only option left for the wilsons? hey mike, it's lucy from lifelock. good news. we just learned your case is closed and your stolen retirement funds are finally being restored. lucy, wow... that 401k is two years in the mailroom, ten in customer service, and the last five as sales director. that's some resume. try raising teenagers. you only

that is the letter ted kennedy wrote to the sentencing judge in the trial of sirhan sirhan.that judge saying my brother was a man of love and compassion. he would not have wanted his death to be a cause for the taking of another life. barney frank that was an extraordinary model of -- >> it was, but i have to tell you, i disagreed with it some. i am against the death penalty for systemic reasons because there are cases where you make a mistake. but i do not feel any sympathy and it does not bother me that this guy will be executed if he is, for him personally. again, i disagree with the policy. but no this man doesn't get any sympathy. it is very important he be confined forever and i think it's important to make that distinction. it's a bad idea for a fallible society that will make a certain amount of mistakes that will do something irrevokable. >> i agree with the systemic argument, but a lot of victims in this case would say they don't want the death penalty. i think that's relevant. >> but there are victims who say we do want it. >> some of the victims are dead. >> this

the late senator ted kennedy was once on the no-fly list. they were looking for somebody else with the same name. the government can make mistakes. >> really? >> that's not news. >> they also led a terrorist through that speedy line at the tsa. >> another profound mistake. >> this is breaking and happening right now. thank you for your expertise. >> always a pleasure miss america. did i see miss america in the greenroom? >> did you. she will be up shortly. >>> does senator rand paul have a problem attracting women voters? s we'll ask his wife about that. she joins us live on "the real story" next. >>> a guy takes a nap on a plane. nothing strange about that, right? unless he is in the cargo hold. p wakes up mid flight. that brings us to our question of the day. where is the most unusual place you've ever taken a nap? tweet me @gretchencarlson. use the hashtag real story. the judge is cracking up. >>> fox news alert now. because we are still awaiting hillary clinton former secretary of state and presidential contender on the democratic side t

. >> do you mean to say you really believe that john kerry and ted kennedy do not believe in defending> matthews challenges miller's position in front of a live audience. >> i wish i was over there, where i could get a little closer up into your face. >> this idea that somehow his face in my face would be somehow intimidating. and then -- somehow that would be almost a -- a aggressive move toward me. it was really hilarious. >> you believe, senator, truthfully, that john kerry wants to defend the country with spit balls. you believe that? >> that was a metaphor, wasn't it? you know what a metaphor is? >> i said a metaphor for what? metaphors have to be for something. what are you actually saying here? and he just got very angry at me. >> i think we ought to cancel this interview. >> well, i don't mean -- >> playful banter explodes into an old-school challenge of honor. at 20 paces. >> get out of my face! if you're going to ask me a question, step back and let me answer. >> senator -- >> you know, i wish -- i wish -- i wish we lived in the day where you could challenge a person to a due

. >> and ted kennedy called it "star wars" and he was right. >> caroline your take of this. >> my take is that marco rubio will probably be a fine vice presidential candidate this time around, and a great presidential candidate. he is nowhere near ready for primetime. i see hillary as the big dog in terms of experience on foreign policy and domestic policy. republicans mostly have young pups to offer at this point. >> okay. appreciate the conversation. spirited discussion. great to have you on the ed show. thanks so much. remember to answer tonight's question at pulse.msnbc.com/ed. we'll have the results right after this break. like us on facebook and get my facebook feature "gimme a minute." >>> coming up bob corker tries to strike a deal on iranian sanctions. it looks like he's got it. and later another police shooting caught on camera. we'll have the latest out of oklahoma. stay with us. we're right back on "the ed show." the largest enterprises in the world, are the largest targets in the world, for every hacker, crook and nuisance in the world. but systems policed by hp's cyber se

i know where senator ted kennedy would be. i know where robert byrd would be. i know where tom daschle would be. but this new democratic wave that we need to cave in to all these corporate interests is going to gut our economy even further. and it will change the democratic party forever. because the democrats are never going to be able to go back to the working folk of america in the middle class and say we stood up for you. no. no. no. they're not standing up for workers here. they're allowing it to go right down the skids. and it's unfortunate. this idea that we have to have the state department and the commerce department connect this to national security how many billions of dollars did we spend on military hardware to protect this country and the world? you mean we have to go do a lousy trade deal to make everybody happy so they can gut american jobs? there has to be some level of protectionism. i wonder what teddy roosevelt would say about this. we have forgotten our roots. this is wrong. this is not standing up for american families. and to stand up for

and can she do what ted kennedy could not do articulate a compelling message? >> why do you want to be president? >> well i'm -- uh -- >> one of my complaints for this year or two of ready for hillary e-mails is that it wasn't clear what you were ready for. >> clinton advisers say her campaign will center on boosting economic security for working families. and casting clinton as a tenacious fighter able to get results. >> i anticipate she'll begin with an actual genuine big idea you're really going to focus specifically on the middle class. >> as clinton tries to prove inevitable does not mean she's taking anything for granted. i'm joined now by new york city mayor bill de blasio. he served as hillary clinton's campaign manager when she ran successful for the senate in 2000. mayor de blasio welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning. >> let me ask you about what you're hearing about how she's launching her campaign that it's all about copying the blueprint you put together in 2000. smart? >> well it was certainly a team effort in 2000 and it worked. one

earlier, to undermine ted kennedy and various things, now i think had the task of neutralizing ellisburg, not simply in terms of my credibility. i was already on trial. i was accused already of being guilty of 12 felony counts which challenges my credibility, you might say, already. >> i had to be influenced, coerced. basically, the first step was to try to get information from my pharmo psychoanalyst that i would not want out. it was not information in the main to be given out immediately to discredit me. but to threaten me with being put out if i didn't co-op rate by shutting up by ceasing to describe what nixon's policy was and by not putting out anymore documents. so they wanted to get information they could blackmail me with. when they were planning that in 19d 72 they knewives mutt putting out more documents and all that i had. they knew that because the senator atechbted to put into the congressional record which i had given him and was blocked by doing that by republican senators and there were two sessions, close sessions in the senate to consider whether e whether they could le

roger mudd asked ted kennedy why he wanted to be president. 70 words later it was restoration.bring back camelot. diane sawyer terry gross was tough on hillary. maybe that's why she's going to talk to regular people next week because she's not talking to us. more pleasant perhaps. >> if anything this highlights the fact that it will be tricky for her to target her record as secretary of state. while she was secretary of state they took money from foreign governments. >> they've had a lot of time. all these years to think about her major accomplishments. why don't they carve them up and say here they are. >> a power point presentation. >> foreign policy is messy. while two years ago it may have seen a draw down from iraq today you don't have a draw down from iraq. >> you say it if you believe it. >> not with isis roaming. >> you cannot take this from her. she was the woman of diplomacy. you have to remember that. one of the achievements is lopping one of the heads off a major terrorist organization osama bin laden. she was part of that whole situation room night. >> that's what

lot of near death experiences, not the least of which was when scott brown was elected to fill ted kennedy's seat, and the vote was gone, and at that point, looked like nothing was going to pass, and i have to add another piece to the scenario you know, the president said in 2009 that you can't fix the economy without fixing health care. in spite of internal pressures within the white house senior advisers said do something else anything else. pass a bill that ensures 20 of your favorite children you know -- [ laughter ] pick three older people who you like get them insurance, just get out of the space because it's too -- as we heard earlier you know, 70 years of contentious debate tried and failed over and over again, and a lot of people felt this was the wrong time and place. i think he was pressing it. unlike the economy, he was looking at in 2009, the stock market doubled, and we have the strongest month in month out job growth seen in decades, we have consumer confidence back the american economy is thriving, and health inflation is the lowest in 50 years so i would say putting the bed

he loses a couple of elections and primaries to ted kennedy. wow, we better do something. this is not going the way we want it to go. so he had split his advisers into two groups, one that was pursuing sanctions and negotiations, one which was pursuing a military solution. and that led to some groupthink in the latter segment. in april they decided quite out of character and any manner that was unusual for him, he decided to attempt rescue operations. is secretary of state resigned and -- resigned in protest because he kept urging caution in patients. but i have a little passage in the book in which the secretary of state points out the problem negotiations where johnson's caution and negotiation paid off, and jordan was the chief of staff to carter said but that wasn't an election year. again, back to domestic politics. it's always in the room. no matter what. patience paid off but there are two parts to the ending. a friend of mine was on the stafford a book called the october surprise, and he made the case that the reagan campaign people made a deal with the iranians to

but i know that ted kennedy's people put out the word to the media that they better stay away from this book and it didn't get much pickup. one more anecdote, my mother was going to the party for that book and she got out the plane and said he must be going to my sons party. and he was very gracious and he did get invited after that was he didn't go. something he said about my mother she got everything revolved around me. she also had a crusading spirit and she was a concert pianist and musician and at the same time [inaudible] she said i would pay for this but today other online retailers have proven her right. [inaudible] also when donald trump gave a book party for my book inside palm beach and america's bridges, call it a midlife crisis more parties and more champagne with my wife mother chatted with her in palm beach and later my wife asked my mother what do you think of donald and as control, he's doing a lot of great things for himself and i'm thinking that that was her whole life was music. and so pam comes up with a lot of my book titles for example as additional ideas about th

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his sidekick was ted kennedy. that was a huge -- a lot of the same ground but too much more complete and further endpoint. >> and you need doctors in this discussion. i had a rule that when you were talking about some complex bioterrorism thing i made them where their white coat. [laughter] you need the trust and credibility of the american people. with all due respect, you cannot put political appointees in front of microphones to manage complex questions. you really do need -- but you also need doctors that understand the policy and politics at the same time. they won't do they won't do that unless you put them into the structure of the system. >> a comment about the process and the coordination mechanism logical step a logical step to putting a national security team together in this area. i would look back into the late 90s where we did have a national coordinator for infrastructure protection counterterrorism and it was an all-encompassing office that looked at the issues of the day. under those different per

congress" book is the double standard, the arrogance of members of congress who, for example, with ted kennedynd, of course then never arrest them. in fact, they have a term to this day could unarresting meaning they arrested the person then they realized the person was a member of congress. they unarrest them meaning hay just wipe it out they don't make a report. thatthat is going on to this day. terrible, terrible double standard. these lawmakers are so powerful and so arrogant in many cases and when it comes to their own personal comfort they really dictate exactly what goes on is on capitol hill. >> host: ron kessler, what book are you working on currently? >> guest: i have to keep that a secret. no, i wish i knew. i don't have a current subject. it takes a while, especially in this internet age, you know? you simply have got to come up with something that will really be revelatory because there's so much information out there. i do think i'm a little perverse because i love a challenge, i love a secret subject. if it's too easy, i don't want to do it. so i am looking at different summits.

we are lucky that the staff of senator ted kennedy and senator mccain use that document the fourth immigrationproposal that was on the table in the early part of the 2,000's. ireland or i went up to washington, d.c. in september, i think it was september 9 or 10th in 2001. i think on the knife they address a joint session of congress at which he also underlined the need for immigration reform. the next day i a and and another bishop went to see the head of the ins at a time and he said the bishops, we are going to get it fixed. it's going to be fixed soon. i got on my plane, flew back to miami, went to bed, got up the next morning and i was going to work on the radio 9/11 happened. and 9/11 basically changed the equation. america went into a bad mood and we have yet to emerge from that bad mood and it has been stymied in our efforts to initiate immigration reform. so, we we had that senator mccain bill that should basically be the gold standard the kennedy mccain bill came out in 2001. it was going to provide a very good, very reasonable and humane immigration reform and make it because of the

we were lucky in that both the staff of senator ted kennedy and senator mccain used that document to put forth an immigration reform proposal that was on the table in the early part of the 2000's. i remember i went up to washington, d.c., in september i think it was september 9 and 10 of 2001. i think on the ninth, the president vincente fox addressed a joint session of congress at which he also underlined the need for immigration reform. the next day i saw another bishop went to see the head of ins at the time. and he said, we are going to get it fixed. i got on my plane flew back to miami, and i got up the next morning to go to work and 9/11 happened. 9/11 basically changed the equation. america went into a bad mood and we have yet to emerge from that bad mood. it has been stymieing our efforts to initiate immigration reform. so we had the senator mccain bill, that should basically be the gold standard, the kennedy-mccain bill came out in 2001. it was going to provide a very good, very reasonable and humane and just immigration reform. it did not make it, partly because of the bad