i worked for ted kennedy in the u.s. senate for a number of and ted kennedy understood idealism and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive. ted kennedy are cut out of the same cloth. they're dreamers and doers. they understand that we're not, as barack obama famously said in 2004 democratic convention speech, we're not red or blue america. we're the united states of america. and that's what we need. we unfortunately have a putsdent right now who fear on the ballot every day. of zero sumocate politics. i only win if the immigrant fails. who we are as a nation and i think what we need to do is come together again and values.ur common we've always been a nation of immigrants. the last speech that ronald gave before he left office in 1989, the last speech in the white house he gave was about immigrants and how immigrants had transformed this better and how our immigrant heritage is what has always made america great. we can summon those common values again. work ahead of us. what i love about joe biden and respect so deeply a

i worked for ted kennedy in the u.s. senate. thatennedy understood idealism and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive. joe biden and ted kennedy are cut out of the same cloth. that, as barack we are not red or blue america, we are the united states of america. that is what we need. we unfortunately have a president right now who puts fear on the ballot every day. he has an advocate of zero-sum politics. that's not who we are as a nation. what we need to do is come together again and some in our common values. we have always been a nation of immigrants. the last speech ronald reagan gave before he left office, the last speech in the white house he gave, was about immigrants and how immigrants have transformed this nation for the better and how our immigrant heritage has made america great. i think we can someone those common values again. we've got hard work ahead of us. ist i love about joe biden he understands that i'm not just a president of lou america or the states that i will when in november. i am the president of the unit

this bill was introduced by ted kennedy. at the behest of jimmy carter because they were going to create a federal agency to do the consumer fraud policing instead. what i say in the book and when i say to you today is we should not be taking advice from ted kennedy and jimmy carter. and he very much. [laughter] [applause] >> very thought-provoking. your response. >> okay. well, i did not write a book on this but i've been doing it about 20 years and i certainly applaud professor fitzpatrick contrary in thinking and is great at thinking on this subject but suffice it to say i respectfully disagree. again, i do that from a conservative perspective. my perspective is one of actually spending the bulk of my career defending these types of actions, litigating them in the trenches and it is something i'm proud to do. i work for these companies and i fundamentally disagree that the aim of these companies is to cheat consumers and take advantage of consumers, certainly we can all find high-profile examples where that has occurred i

what i say in the book and what i say to you today is we should not be taking advice from ted kennedy and jimmy carter. thank you very much. [applause] i respectfully disagree. again i do that from a conservative perspective. my perspective is one fell of actually spending the bulk of my career defending these types of actions litigating them in the trenches. something i'm very proud to do. i work for these companies. i fundamentally disagree that the aim of these companies is to cheat consumers, to take advantage of consumers certainly we can all find high-profile examples where that has occurred, and professor fitzpatrick cites a few high-profile examples in his book. but by and large the companies that i purpose to think and my firm is privileged to defend value the relationship with the consumer, value it much more that the plaintiffs class action lawyer i can assure you of that. and from my perspective one of the greatest threats that we face in civil litigation today is the threat of the class action. i think it's been taken from its historical intended purposes and it's been ta

this bill was introduced by ted kennedy. at the behest of jimmy carter. because they were going to create a federal agency to do the consumer fraud policing instead. what i say in the book and what they see today is we should not be taking advice from ted kennedy and jimmy carter. thank you very much. [applause] >> very thought provoking. your response. >> i didn't write a book on this, but i've been doing it for about 20 years and i certainly applaud his contrary thinking,, his creative thinking on the subject. but suffice to say i respectfully disagree. and again i do that from a conservative perspective. my perspective is one though of actually spending the bulk of my career defending these types of actions litigating them in the trenches, and something a very proud to do. i work for these companies. i finally disagree the aim is to cheat consumers come to take offense of consumers. we can all find high-profile examples where that has occurred, and professor fitzpatrick sites if you high profile examples in this book. but by and large the companies i'm

and that was ted kennedy and john boehner. and it was really a big part of what he want today accomplish as president, of course. it fell far into the background, but we could never make him happy with an education speech draft because he knew too much about it to the granular level of detail. it could go through the staffing process and everything was fine. he would say you don't get it, you don't have it. so one anytime 2004, in the middle of a reelection campaign, a lot going on, i said you know what, he didn't like the last education speech, we have another one to do, let's take the one he didn't use and look at the transcript of what he actually said, and nice that. we took that transcript of the last speech and we cleaned it up and we did some, you know, put in some current local references and current facts and data to freshen it up. and i thought this is what he wanted to say and it was a rare event that he had a speech and he didn't use it. so he took that transcript, make it into a speech, send it back to him, he lov

everybody knew was thinking of endorsing ted kennedy for president. my wife finally said off the record congressman are you can endorse kennedy. these things were incredibly useful. i felt like i knew these people. you could have a candid conversation do you think you are more irreverent when they come out to give a talk to the bus on mcgovern's new economic plans and he starts talking and he quotes usaid boy i've heard a lot of bull before but this takes the cake. we eventually threw gordon off the bus. we just gave up. there was another moment which tested all of us and was very illustrative of what was happening an early proponent of what has been called every citizen has a certain account they start out in life with. it is more common today nixon had a version of it in 1969. the sink came out it was all knew it was called liberal at the time. it wasn't clear how much it would cost. about a month in suit ensued of almost ruthless examination of this proposal. no one had ever gone into an issue like that. after the election i wish i could remember wh

he was exonerated by history and even the kennedy family, ted kennedy was very critical gave him a profile encourage award to say i was wrong. and that iranian hostage crisis. and when the shaw of iran or the american ally when the richest zealots took over and took control of iraq america was widely despised for supporting the shaw who was very brutal pressing his people. so one day when the shaw had left he wanted treatment for physical problems he was having in the united states the questions would be let him in the united states to stir up opposition and i ran we were supporting this hated figure? carter said okay it is the humane thing to do let them have the treatment here he was a good ally but these people take over our embassy and capture our people i will come after you and ask you what we say now and that's exactly what happened. students and other radicals took over the embassy they captured 60 of our people and held them for one year and carter was unable to get them out trying everything he could do he was derided and instead of taking action one of the presidents defining mo

failure of the rescue mission it was very difficult for him to seek reelection and the challenge by ted kennedy was very unfortunate. >>host: tough on you? >> tough on me i said you will not win this and it has done some important things the united nations is such an important possibility for us it makes it hard that president roosevelt last year as sick as he was with the universal organization that could be a major instrument to stop war and keep peace. the president to get the soviets to come into the un and churchill was not interested. but roosevelt believed deeply that the time had come when the wars could no longer be one in the united states at the peak of its power should use the power to show the world how we can live together. and he did not live long enough. mrs. roosevelt was an extraordinary participant to celebrate the universal declaration of human rights and that's mrs. roosevelt's quick work in regards it as the quick work of her lifetime but roosevelt was a practical man to understand the mistakes woodrow wilson made with the league of nation and he would have continued had h

kennedy and bobby and ted kennedy was asked why he supported franklin roosevelt and the new deal, i would give way half my fortune to keep the other half. >> what do you think? >> as you look at the postwar and posts depression policies, and when you look at societies the refuse to engage, where it went for those guys. with political instability, to reform the best you can as opposed to assuming one group will try it out. >> the current information ongoing, computers, automation, social media, cumulative impact of information revolution on class war and you describe it in losing power and influence. a big tech and the internet specifically. >> there is a radical difference in how media are used, studies showing people on twitter are overwhelmingly college-educated people. the working-class gets more of its information from old-fashioned television and podcasts. this is more the first group from radio because they are in their cars, in their jobs. i wouldn't exaggerate the role of media that much, first with television and in the internet there is a tendency to think people are terribly ma

kennedy and bobby and ted kennedy. was asked why he supported franklin roosevelt and the new deal and he said i would give away half my fortune to keep the other half. i agree with mike. historically if you look at the horse world and post-war societies that engaged in corporatism or land in class compromise the uk and the united states has at the top of the list and if you look at the societies that refuse to engage in a compromising would include russia italy and germany i do think there's something ready unpredictable about political instability and in general to try to reform the system as best you can is supposed to a certain group is going to tramp and even if they do it's not necessarily different. >> with that current information revolution i'm going that includes automation social media communications etc. talk about the committed impact of the information revolution on the class war and you described in losing power and influence michael. a frame of the big tech specifically. >> there is a radical difference

point out the maduro, the leader in venezuela, average person lost 20 pounds on there but he makes ted kennedy looks limpid he's wearing the size of 68 jacket or 74 chest jacket and he's getting fatter and fatter. >> host: i never read a book that [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] [laughter] you went down this project as an interesting endeavor in marriage as well. he wrote the book with your wife and i'm not married but i've always said that wallpaper together can be difficult but talk to us about the process of writing this book with your life and you write a beautiful poem at the beginning of the book to your wife that i think speaks to a lot of people who have been born some sense of sacrifice and that sacrifice is linked to another human being that you love. >> yet, kellyanne i work well together and it's like in the days when they give you advice in marriage is that when your wife says something you divide up, you have things and ultimately you let her make the final decision. that's not entirely true but it kind of is and that i'm laid back. i wrote a lot of stuff and then she came

the chair of the judiciary committee was ted kennedy. the ranking minority member was strom thurmond. those two worked together to get well qualified judges appointed to the federal courts. it was the same thing, 1993 when i was nominated then senator joe biden chaired the committee. orrin hatch was the ranking minority member, hatch was my biggest supporter. that's the way it should be. and the way i hope i will see again in my lifetime. but but it will take people who really care about our country to say enough of this dissension. let's come together and do the work which should be done. >> how would justice sotomayor, about done. i don't know whether the justices can do anything. i know chief justice roberts has spoken about it, but is there anything as citizens that we can do? we could exhort people bto be more decent, civil in the process. anything else? >> but it's not just exhortation. it is both speaking out publicly about it. if politicians hear the outcry, they will respond. they often and mostly do. but we have to educate the

we point out about leader in venezuela is average person lost 20 pounds down there but he makes ted kennedy look slim he's wearing this size 68 jacket or 74, you know, chest jacket, and because he keeps getting fatter and fatter. >> i've never read a book that better fat shames socialist -- than your book. [laughter] >> you went down this project sort of as an interesting endeavor in marriage as well you wrote the book with your wife i'm not married but i've heard that wallpapering can be difficult talk to e me about process of writing this book with your wife and you write a beautiful poem at the a beginning of the book to your quite a few that i think speaks to a lot of people who have endured a sacrifice and notion that that sacrifice is linked to another human being that you love. >> kelly and i work pretty well together it's sort of like they give you advice in marriage is that, when your wife says something you sort of divide up you have things you have things and then ultimately let her make final decision that's not entirely true but it kind of is that i'm laid back in the book i wr

that was ted kennedy and john boehner with the legislation that bush signed and that was a big part of what he wanted to accomplish as president. it fell far into the background. but we could never make him happy with an education speech draft because he simply knew too much about it, to a granular detail that speechwriters cannot get. it would go through the staffing process and anything was fine and then it would get to the president. you don't get it. [laughter] >> one time, this was in 2004 in the middle of a reelection campaign, a lot going on. i said to mike and matthew, my colleagues, we have another speech to do, let's take an education speech he didn't use and look at the transcript from what he actually said and use that. so we did commit we took the transcript of the last speech, we cleaned it up, we did, put in some current facts and data and local references to freshen it up. i thought, this is what he wanted to say, and clearly that day it was the rare event he had a speech in front of them and didn't use it. it was education anyone in to do is own thing. so we made that

i think he is exonerated by history and even the kennedy family, ted kennedy was very critical of ford for pardoning nixon, later gave ford a profile in courage award saying i was wrong. ford was right in pardoning nixon. there has been a historical redemption here for gerald ford. we remember this. this is jimmy carter, the iranian hostage crisis. we still have iran in headlines today. this is a case where the shah of iran or american ally left the country, the religious zealots took over and took control of iran. america was widely despised in iran for supporting the shot who was very brutal, guilty of oppressing his people. so one day when the shah had left, he wanted to have treatment for terrible physical problems in the united states, the question was were we going to let him in the united states and maybe stir up opposition in iran that we were supporting this hated figure after he had been deposed. carter said it is probably the humane thing to do, let him have the treatment here, he was an ally of the united states, but if these people take over our embassy and capture our peo

the politics of arithmetic i learned from senator ted kennedy, my mentor, addition beats subtraction of the week. joe biden has been expanding the field throughout. his coalition of diverse color, of union people, of disaffected republicans, has swept him to this dramatic set of victories, and then you look at what the president, the incumbent president is doing, and ever-shrinking base, this is his formula for success, an ever-shrinking base coupled with voter suppression. so what we're going to see, the club for growth is spending millions of dollars digitally trying to sow discord in the democratic party. it is not going to work. >>> you will see more voter suppression tactic. you see it in georgia. a voter fraud task force. that is a crock of you know what. it is designed to stifle the vote down there. we know that. and that is why we and not just the dnc, but the democratic eco-system, whether it's stacey abrams, and whether it's eric holder and the redistricting commission, we will come together and we are coming together to build the best infrastructure we have ever given to a

and even the kennedy family, ted kennedy was very critical of ford for pardoning nixon later gave him a profile award inset i was wrong. that ford was right in pardoning nixon so there's kinda been a historic redemption here for gerry ford. we remember this is jimmy carter with the iranian hospice crisis. we still have iran in the news today. here's where he left the country, the result led just zealots took over, and took control of iran. america was widely despised in iran for supporting the shaw who is very brutal and guilty of oppressing his people. so one day, when the shaw had left, he wanted to have treatment for some terrible physical problems he was having in the united states. the question was whether we were going to let him in the united states and maybe stir up opposition in iran that we were supporting this hated figure there. this is after he had been deposed. carter said, well okay it's probably the humane thing to do let him have the treatment here. he was a good illini for the united states for long time. but if these people go in and take over embassy and take over

i think he was sort of exonerated by history by this and even the kennedy family, ted kennedy was verycritical of ford for pardoning nixon later . they profiled in courage award, saying i was wrong editor kennedy said and ford was right in part nixon so there has been sort of a historic redemption here of jerry ford. this is jimmy carter, this is the iranian hostage crisis . we still have around in the headlines today. this was a case where the shot (left the country, the religious zealots took over and took control of iran. america was widely despised in iranfor supporting the shop . who was very brutal, who was guilty of oppressing his people . so one day, the when the shop had left, he wanted to have treatment for some terrible physical problems he was having in the united states. the question was where we going to let him in the united states and maybe store up opposition in iran we were supporting this figure there. this is after he had been deposed. carter said okay, it's probably the humane thing to do, let him have the treatment here and he was a good ally for a long time but if these

i think he was sort of exonerated by history by this and even the kennedy family, ted kennedy was very, very critical of ford for pardoning nixon, later gave ford an award saying i was wrong, senator kennedy said in ford was right, pardon me nixon. there is a redemption for gerald ford. this is jimmy carter, this is the iranian hostage crisis. we still have iran in the headlines today. this is a case where the shot of arendt was an american illini left the country, religious zealots took over, took control of iran. he was widely despised for supporting the shaw who was brutal towards his people. when the shaw had left, he wanted to have treatment for some terrible physical problem he is having in the united states. the question was over going to let him in the united states may strip opposition in iran that we were supporting this hated figure there. this is after he'd been deposed. curtis did okay it's probably the humane thing to do will let them have the treatment here he had been an illini of the united states for long time. these people go and take over embassy and capture their p

i think he was sort of exonerated by this and even the kennedy family, ted kennedy was very, very critical of ford for parting nixon. later gave him an award saying i was wrong and ford was right in pardoning nixon. so it has been a historic redemption here for gerry ford. now we remember this is a jimmy carter with the iranian hostage crisis. we still have irene in the headlines today. this is a case were there is an american illini, the shaw of iran, left the country, zealots took over and took control of iran. america was widely despised in iran for supporting the shaw who is very brutal. he is guilty of oppressing his people. so one day when the shaw had he wanted to have treatment for some terrible physical problems he was having in the united states. the question was where we going to let him in the united states and maybe stir up opposition and iran that we were supporting this hated figure there. this is after he had been deposed. carter said well, it's probably the humane thing to do let him have the treatment here, he was a good illini to the knighted states for long time. but if

it was the freeze led by ted kennedy. in europe it was the opposition to the nato double track decision of 1979, the stationing of midrange nuclear missiles in western europe. all this led to massive demonstrations in the early 1980's. if you think that i would brag i was part of it, i was not. i was too chicken to go and march. in bonn, i had some classmates who did but i did not. i do not even sign petitions. but i was interested in it. i did go in 1983 and i was in london for a year, i did go to a demonstration there which i later found out was built as the biggest antinuclear demonstration in british history. so i had to leave my country in order to be brave enough to participate in some kind of vast political movements. so these experiences did not drive me toward writing this book. but they did help shape the direction it took once i got started. my original idea, actually, was to research the transnational connections of the student and civil rights activists in the 1960's. to write a transnational history of the 1

so, it is sad that remember ted kennedy had negotiations in the kremlin trying to elicit their assistancedermine. that the democratic party was always on the side of the left, on the side of useful idiots and now they are accusing donald trump and conservatives truly beyond the pale. >> host: from the 2018 book why we fight, russia doesn't share america's interest. if they face its own threat especially from chechnya but that doesn't mean it is or can be. >> host: that is a look at some of the authors. to watch any of these programs in their entirety or the episodes from the past 20 years, go to booktv.org. >> host: joining us now is bradley graham, the co-owner of politics and prose bookstore is here and washington, d.c. along with his wife. what has been the effect of the coronavirus crisis on your business? >> guest: it has been pretty severe on many retailers around

and that was ted kennedy and john boehner co-authored the legislation that bush signed, and it was really a big part of his, of what he wanted to accomplish. as president, it fell far into the background, but we could never make him happy about the education speech because he understood more about it to the granular writer that speechwriters never get. it would go through the staffing process and be fine and then it would get to the president and he would say, you don't get it! you don't have it. you don't have it right. >> you do a better bush impression -- >> he did. that's good. >> so, one time, it was in 2004, middle of the re-election campaign, a lot going on. and i said to mike and matthew, my colleagues, i said, you know, the president didn't like the last education speech we did. we have another one to do. let's take the one he didn't use and look at the transcript of what he actually said and use that. and so, we did. we took that transcript of that last speech and we just -- we cleaned it up and did some, you know, put in some current, local references and current facts and data

said, we lost the election in 1980 for three reasons -- bad economy, the iran hostage crisis and ted kennedy. if we had been able to fix one of those three, we would have stood a chance, but with the three of them against us, we did not. this is a cartoon that says, carter really doesn't beat kennedy in the primary season. he just comes equipped for the car crash. >> i had never seen this before. i looked long and hard at it. ten years after chap qupaqitic. there are some retrospective television shows and movies that bring our cultural understandings to something that happened in very different circumstances. i once went to chappaquittic to see the dike bridge and, believe me, i've reached my own fault as to who was at fault. i read this much more critical of kennedy other than carter. maybe carter's white house staff wouldn't have been too president with the president in the backseat and prepared to swim for his survival but it seems to me that kennedy is driving and he's driving the carter presidency over the edge or into the deep. and it reflects some of the thinking at the time but i th

wife had some dumb congressman up in upstate new york who everybody knew was thinking of endorsing ted kennedy for president, and this guy was adding the tennis ball back and forth with a bunch of us one day, and my wife finally said, the cameras are running come off the record, congressman. are you going to endorse candidate? oh, yeah. [laughing] >> the lights are on, the cameras are rolling and have a microphone. >> but these things were incredibly useful. i was very young then. i'm very old now, but it felt like i knew these people. in a pinch you could have a candid conversation -- >> do you think you guys were more irreverent then? he quotes you wendy gordon comes out to give a talk to the bus on the governance new economic plans that he has just released and he starts talking and he quotes you as saying boy, i've heard a lot of all shit before but this takes the case. >> it kept going. we eventually ended back through gordon off the bus, gave up. there was another moment which tested all of us and was very illustrative of what was happening then and you can compare it to now, mcgovern wa

> my wife had some congressmen in upstate new york who everybody knew was thinking of endorsing ted kennedy for president in the sky was batting a tennis ball back and forthwith a bunch of us one day. my wife finally said while the cameras are running off the record are you going to endorse kennedy? oh yeah, oh yeah. [laughter] >> it was rolling and they got a microphone on him. i mean dull. >> these things were incredibly wonderful. i was very young then and i'm very but i felt like i knew these people and in a pinch you could have a candid conversation >> did you think you guys were more irreverent than? he quotes back you at one point when wilde comes out to give a talk to the bus on mcgovern's new economic plan that he's just released and he starts talking and he quotes you as saying boy i've heard a lot of bull ship before but this takes the cake. we eventually threw cordoned off the bus. there was another moment which tested all of us their worth through illustrative of what happened in compared to now. mcgovern was an early proponent of what's been called the economic demographics. e

ted kennedy, under gay negotiations with the family trying to elicit to undermine ronald reagan's electionas always on the side of the left on the side of useful idiots, the fellow travelers. now the choosing donald trump and conservatives. host: why we fight, the 2018 book pressure does not share america's interest, the main sermon threat but that does not mean it is a candy our friend. >> that's a look at some of the authors, watch any of these programs in their entirety ernie other, got to booktv.org. television has changed since cspan began 41 years ago but her mission continues to provide an unfiltered view of government. already this year we brought you primary election coverage. the presidential impeachment process. and at the federal response to the coronavirus printed and was c-span's public affairs programming on television. online or listen our free radio app. and be of the national conversation c-span's daily washington journal program or through our social media speed. cspan, created by private industry, america's television company as a public service and brought to you by yo

pay these individuals so it's sad that eight party that was so in the tank for the left, remember ted kennedyad negotiations with the kennedy trying to elicit their assistance to undermine ronald reagan's reelection, that democratic party that was always on the side of the left, on the side of useful idiots, now they are accusing donald trump and conservatives truly beyond the pale. host: and from sebastian's 2018 book, "why we fight" russia does not share market interest. it may face its own jihadi threat, but that doesn't mean it is or can be our friend. >> that's a look at some of the authors featured on book tv's in depth and watch these programs in their entirety or any other episodes go to book tv.org. host: as regular viewers of book tv no, all of the major book festivals this spring had been canceled due the coronavirus. book tv was scheduled to be live in tucson, los angeles and festivals in new orleans and san antonio as well. all canceled. we know that affect it's having on book fairs and large gatherings, but is it having an effect also on bookstores and small businesses? mitchell

with bipartisan support, joe biden is going to a tax policy to the left of what ted kennedy wanted ins to the left of what hillary clinton was asking for an bernie sanders did not lose the primary, he won the primary. it is that joe biden is carrying his baggage, his policies of the left. >> it is interesting because he is being tagged as a moderate but i don't see anything moderate here at all into your point taxpayers at every level except for the bottom 20% would see a tax hike as you shall say capital games from 23 up to 40. corporate tax rate from the current 21 up to 28%, that's a very progressive agenda. >> is a very high tax increase. he takes all of the trump tax cuts away. we have a wonderful website, tax hike joe, tax hike joe goes through all of his public statements where he again and again, and again, in case you thought he slipped and said it once said he will take away all of the trump tax cut they gave us a strong growth before the virus hit and will bring it back again. he wants to bring us back, not just to the obama slow growth high taxes but to raise taxes even be

bad economy, the iron hostage crisis, and ted kennedy. if we had been able to fix one of those three, we would have a chance. but with the three of them against us we did not. this is a cartoon that says carter really doesn't beat kennedy in the primary season. he just comes equipped for the car crash. >> i have never seen this before. there are maybe some of you that have seen them retrospective television shows and movies that of course bring our cultural understanding about something that happened. i once went, and believe me i reached my own conclusions about who was at fault. and i read this as much more critical of kennedy than of carter. maybe the carter white house staff had been too happy about it with the president in the backseat and prepared to swim for his survival, but it seems to me that kennedy is driving and he is driving the carter presidency over the edge or into the deep. it reflects some of the thinking at the time, but i think some of that criticism was muted also just because it was a kennedy. >> and it reflects the

it is sad -- ted kennedy had negotiations with the kremlin trying to elicit their assistance to undermine ronald reagan's reelection. that democrat party that was always on the side of the left, on the side of useful idiots, fellow travelers, now they are using donald trump and conservatives beyond the pale. >> from sebastian gorka's book why we fight, russia does not chermac's interest, and may face its own jihadist threat especially from chechnya but that does not mean it is or can be our friend. >> that the look at some of the authors featured on booktv's "in depth". to watch any of these programs in their entirety or any other episode of "in depth" for the past 20 years go to booktv.org. >> television has changed since c-span began 41 years ago but our mission continues to provide an unfiltered view of government was already this year we brought you primary election coverage, the presidential impeachment process and now the federal response to the coronavirus. you can watch all of c-span's public affairs programming on television, online or listen on our free radio apps and be part of