us for this edition of the program in the studio alongside myself, the journalist and broadcaster ted kofe and with us via skype from johannesburg in south africa, tisetso magama. tisetso is a long-time political activist and he served in various roles within the african national congress, the anc, as well as leading other grassroots movements in south africa, and he joins us in his capacity as the spokesperson for africa for palestine. welcome to you both. uh, tet, it seems a real shame every time you are here, and those moments have lasted, perhaps longer than anyone of us would like in this capacity, the the sheer numbers killed. the share brutality, just bring us up to speed with your reaction, well it it the longer the thing goes, the more clear it becomes that turning the uh the gaza crisis around, it's like turning a uh an oil tanker, you spin the wheel and it'll take a long time for the ship to take traction, but it's gathering momentum all the time, what? looks like something that will never stop is actually its way to cessation, i'm sure about that. and your own thought to set so

us for this edition of the program in the studio alongside myself, the journalist and broadcaster ted kofe and with us via skype from johannesburg in south africa to setso magama. tisetso is a long-time political activist and he served in various roles within the african national congress, the anc, as well as leading other grassroots movements in south africa. and he joins us. in his capacity as the spokes person for africa, for palestine. welcome to you both. uh, tet, it seems a real shame every time you are here, and those moments have lasted perhaps longer than anyone of us would like in this capacity, the the share numbers kill, the share brutality, just bring us up to speed with your reaction. well, it it, the longer the thing goes, the more clear it becomes, that turning the uh, the... crisis around, it's like turning a um an oil tanker, you spin the wheel and it'll take a long time for this ship to take traction, but it's gathering momentum all the time, what looks like something that will never stop is actually its way to cessation, i'm sure about that, and your own thought is so,