now helping us guide our way through the show today, ted koffe, the broadcaster and political analyst and joining us via skype from south africa is muhammad desai, he's the executive director of africa for palestine. gentlemen, good to see you both. ted, i it breaks my heart every time we sit here to talk about how the situation has deteriorated, not got better. we've seen the... that's taken place in raffa, just bring me your thoughts, well it it it's extraordinary, because i mean everything seems to happen on on parallel lines, you know, and parallel lines of course meet it to infinity, there's all this talk about finding solution for post bombarded gaza, but the carnage continues and the stats are horrific, 85% of the people are homeless, 25% of the people are starving, 27. 500 known bodies, we don't know how many have been entomed, and the people are living in 33% of the space they were before, which was already tight, but absolutely, it's horrific. mohammed, let me bring you in here, it it seems so heartbreaking, and before we get into kind of the african perspective on this one,