we have a lot of money. >> pelley: ted koppel with donald trump. with the convention in town, the population of philadelphia is growing by at least 50,000. the city's police force of more than 6,000 officers says it's ready for anything. here's our homeland security correspondent jeff pegues. >> ♪ we want a revolution. >> reporter: thousands of people marched in downtown philadelphia this afternoon. they were noisy but peaceful. in 2000 at the last political convention here, there were hundreds of arrests. police say they are prepared if demonstrations get out of hand this week. 35,000 of 50,000 protestors are expected each day. the city has purchased more than $250 million in insurance to cover potential damage and another $5 million in case any of the city's 6,000 police officers is sued. the designated protest zone is about four miles from downtown within view of the convention site. former police commissioner charles ramsey says it's the unexpected that keeps commanders up at night. >> something's going to happen that's going to be unexpected.

. >>> plus, ted koppel and i disagree on whether your opinions on social media really matter. compared to the high priest of journalism. i'm howard kurtz and this is "#mediabuzz." media speculation kicked into high gear as hillary clinton submitted to what her campaign called a voluntary 3 1/2 hour interview at fbi headquarters yesterday. that crucial step in the investigation of her private e-mail server coming just days after an anchor at knxv broke the story that bill clinton has held a half hour meeting with loretta lynch aboard her plane prompting the attorney general to defend herself at a news conference. >> i did see the president at the phoenix airport the other night. as i was landing, he was headed out. he did come over and say hello and speak to my husband and myself and talk about his grand children and his travels and things like that. >> over the next day and a half, fox news ran many segments on the private meeting. msnbc carried the least. it was no story initially in the print editions of the "new york times" the thennext day, but af linked that lynch would i

that publishing is local i've tried ted koppel times but it doesn't work. they put their heart and ideas behind that to invest in the way that they need to be published. >> do you speak french? to make just enough to get myself into trouble. helpful to them. >> so if given the the united states who was around the table? >> we have a board meeting of all the publishers of all seven divisions of the beach -- a the head of all divisions officer officer, counsel, a jar, director, communications i am probably leaving somebody out and i apologize in advance. then we talk about of budget for the year. >> his book publishing a modern business? it is not a leading edge modern business. into the june to end unchanged experience. in it was invented that they were incredibly modern invention all of the music he had to be in one place and then to be anywhere at anytime. and then try to digitize every book that we have with those basic financial old relationships so not much has changed with hundreds of thousands of products that need individual attention so that is acqu

morning we hear from the republican presidential nominee as he talks to our senior contributor ted koppel. >> i love the media. >> not really. donald trump's relationship with the press has been anything but a love fest. you've had your share of misstatements over the past few months. >> i think that i'm an honest person. i feel lime an honest person. i don't mind being criticized at all by the media but i do want them to be straight. >> donald trump and the media and getting his message across now that the convention is over. ahead on "sunday morning." >> pauley: the summer screen offers plenty of alternatives to convention viewing. featuring among other things the new role for a star with plenty of memorable roles to her credit. not that she's taking anything for granted. as she'll be telling ourra tcy smith. >> i'm no. going to break in. >> from private eye to princess. kristen bell always makes it look easy. but don't let the looks fool you. have there been bumps? >> oh, god, yeah. may end at any moment. my end before this interview is over and i just -- what a wonderful ride it was.

on nightline and ted koppel is talking about the nypd, the amadu diallo killing and he's talking about 41 bullets. he's talking about stop-and-frisk. he's talking about police brutality and rudy giuliani said, i have the most restrained and best he have to police force you can imagine. i had one of those scooby doo moments. what? and then he began to talk about how his policies were working, that what he had put in place in new york city had brought down crime. new york city is a safer place because of his policies at he had flow charts and graphs and bars. what you don't see here is that an unarmed black man stepped out on his porch and was gunned down i'm sitting there going something is fundamentally wrong structurally wrong. i didn't know what to call it. i didn't know what to label it but i knew something was going on. i began working and thinking and working and thinking and then in august of 2014, the television is on and i'm watching and they see ferguson, and then i hear it to pundits talking about it. and what they were talking about was lack rage. why are black people -- wha

i think the party is very unified only a few people most of whom i beat. >> ted koppel joins us from ary of state. put it that way. >> right! that is a good guess! >> let's talk about the speech, first, ted. your reaction? >> sure. >> what donald trump either accomplished or did not accomplish. >> i think it was an effective speech. it was not -- it was not a speech that had any soaring rhetoric to it, but in terms of sort of playing to the trump crowd, i think it was extraordinarily effective. the big question is going to be whether it plays to those people who have not yet made up their minds and whether he is going to be able to get any bernie sanders' voters. >> many of the headlines today are talking about it dark grim. you talk about a new stage of the campaign. what does that mean? do you think this is the tone? >> i asked him whether it was going to be a new stage in the campaign but i must tell you, after listening to that speech last night, and, indeed, listg that we are going to see a very different donald trump. i don't think donald trump, quite frankly, is disciplined eno

. >> reporter: with donald trump and allies counterprogramming the democratic convention, ted koppel with cbs sunday morning asked trump what he was thinking when he began this campaign. >> i have a sense that back on june 16th, what donald trump was thinking was, you know or two. i might win the caucus or two. but you know, the worst thing that is going to happen is the brand is going to be improved. i'll be better more famous than today. you never thought you would be sitting here on this day as the nominee of the republican party. >> i think about it myself, you know. i think i must have, ted. because i do like the win. and i believe that if i didn't think i was going to win, i wouldn't have done it. so somewhere deep down in the mind, i must have said, i'm going to win. >> reporter: trump won the nomination and remains competitive with hillary clinton despite scel tal campaign staff and uneven gop convention and prominent party holdouts. >> reporter: what about the elders, the party elders who didn't show up, the romney, the bushes, the kasichs? >> well, look, they are all people

what a huge departure this was from recent conventions where the form formality. 20 years ago, ted koppel dismissed the relevance of the whole exercise. >> this convention is more of an infomercial than a news event. nothing surprising has happened. nothing surprising is anticipated. >> but nothing is simple in this year of trump. >> point of order. >> and that floor fight today was not the only unusual development. in another break from tradition, hillary clinton was out on the trail. usually the candidate from the opposing party lays low during the other team's convention. not this time. >> what can i do? what can i do to stop this dangerous, divisive candidate from getting within a thousand miles of the white house? well, i can tell you, it is not enough to yell at your tv screen. >> and then there was this, the man who ghost wrote trump's iconic bestseller, the art of the deal, came forward to say he regrets pushing forward trump's career. >> this is a man with mor sociopathic tendencies than any candidate in my adult life that i've observed. and so, yeah, i do regret writing the book

i think the party's very unified other than a few people that most of whom i beat. >> ted koppel joinsing, charlie. i don't think that ted cruz is in line for secretary of state. >> right. >> that's a good guess. >> let's talk about the speech first, ted. your reaction. >> sure. >> your sense of what donald trump either accomplished or did not accomplish. >> well, you know, i think it was an effective speech. it was not a speech that had any soaring rhetoric to it. but in terms of sort of playing to the trump crowd, i think it was extraordinarily effective. the big question is going to be whether it pleased to those people who have not yet made up their minds and whether he's going to be able to get any disaffected bernie sanders voters. >> many headlines calling dark grim without optimism. i know you talked about entering a new stage of the campaign. what does that mean? do you think this is the tone? >> well, i asked him whether it was going to be a new stage in the campaign. but i must tell you after listening to that speech last night and indeed listening to him, i don't think that

also, yesterday, sunday morning senior contributor ted koppel asked trump about republican party unity and those who stayed away from the gop convention. >> what about the -- what about the elders, the party elders who didn't show up, the bush's, the kasich. >> they are all people who beat me for the most part. i helped mitt romney but i think i talked him out of running in this race. he should have easily beaten a very badly damaged president and i was very critical of him and that is why he came out against me. jeb bush, obviously, i beat him very badly. kasich, i beat him very, very badly. kasich was beaten so badly and it's hard for people to recover. >> reporter: donald trump had once made president obama's birth place an issue. on "face the nation," cbs news political director john dickerson asked the president about trump and the birther debate. >> reporter: he was the chief birther in america, questioning you. what is your reaction of the fact that he is the nominee of the republican party? >> well, i think it says something about what has happened to the republican party over

coming up on "cbs this morning," we will talk to ted koppel about his interview with donald trump. >>> the democratic national convention starts monday in philadelphia and hillary clinton may announce her running mate as early as today. this morning, clinton begins a two-day campaign swing through florida. sources tell the associated press, virginia senator tim kaine is the leading candidate to join hillary clinton on the ticket but no final decision has been made. >>> speakers at the democratic convention include michelle obama and bernie sanders monday night. on tuesday, former president bill clinton, mothers of black men and women who have been killed by gun violence or in police custody, including the mothers of eric garner, trayvon martin, and michael brown. on wednesday, president obama and vice president joe biden speak. hillary and chelsea clinton wrap up the convention thursday. >>> during a white house reception, president obama called for an end to discrimination against muslims. the president hosted more than a hundred muslim americans to celebrate the end of the holy mont

ted koppel was talking about the nypd, the killing, he is talking about 41 bullets, he is talking about stop and frisk. he's talking about police brutality and rudy giuliani says, i have the most recent and best behave please force you can imagine. okay, yeah i had one of those scooby doo moments. what? and then he began to talk about how his policies were working. that what he has put in place in new york city has brought down crime. new york city is a safer place because of his policies and he has flowcharts graphs bars, everything. what you do not hear is that an unarmed black man stepped out on his porch and was gunned down. i'm sitting there going, something is fundamentally wrong. structurally wrong. i did not know what to call it. i didn't know to label it. what i knew something was going on. i continued working, thinking and working, and thinking. and then august 2014, the television is on and i am watching. i see ferguson in flames. and then i hear the pundit talking and what they were talking about was a black rage. wire black people burning up where they live? what is wrong w

senior contributor, ted koppel, spoke with the republican candidate for sunday morning. >> nobody inmory has a more highly developed sense of public confidence than freshly minted republican nominee for president. still, as i sat down with donald trump, late last week, i couldn't help but wonder. >> let me ask you a question, i wanted to ask you for months. >> go ahead. >> i have a sense on june 16, what donald trump was thinking, you know something, i might win the primary or two, i might win a caucus or two, but you know the worst thing that is going to happen the brand is going to be improved, i will be better known, more nay muss than i am today. business is going to be in, you never thought you would be sitting here on this day as the nominee of the republican party? >> it is such a great question, such an interesting question. and i think about it myself. you know i think i must have, ted, because i do look to win. and i believe that if i didn't think i was going to within. i wouldn't have didn't. some where deep down in the mind i must have said, i am going to win. >> the afte

. >> reporter: with donald trump and allies counter-programming the democratic convention, ted koppel of "cbs sunday morning" asked trump what he was thinking when he began this campaign. >> i have a sense that back on june 16th, what donald trump was thinking was, you know something? i might win a primary or two, i might win a caucus or two, but the worst thing that's going to happen is the brand is going to be improved, i'll be better known, i'll be more famous than i am today, business is going to be -- you never thought you'd be sitting here on this day as the nominee of the republican party. >> i think about it myself, i mean, i think i must have, ted. because i do like to win. and i believe that if i didn't think i was going to win, i wouldn't have done it. so somewhere deep down in the mind i must have said, i'm going to win. >> reporter: trump won the nomination and remains competitive with hillary clinton, despite skeletal campaign staff and uneven gop convention and prominent party hold-outs. >>what about the elders, the party elders, who didn't show up? the romneys, the bus

. >> ted koppel on abc news, walter cronkite, america, day 15, day 100, day 200. people. and carter started becoming the symbol of lost american prestige. >> ronald reagan is running officially. he got in the race tonight in new york city at a fund-raising dinner. and he taped a speech yesterday for showing tonight on about 90 independent television stations. >> i'm here tonight to announce my intention to seek the republican nomination for the president of the united states. the crisis we face is not the result of any failure of the american spirit, it's a failure of our leaders. >> the country is looking for optimism, looking for a new dawn, new beginnings. and ronald reagan epitomized all those things. >> between '76 and '80, reagan's building a coalition, bringing in christian fundamentalists, and law and order nixonian people. >> reagan is realizing to sell conservatism you have to diet -- do it with a smile. you have got to do it in a way that makes people feel good, not scold them. >> we can turn this country around. we can turn our economy around. and the

contributor ted koppel will be showing us. >> this town was founded by and named after william f. cody. known to the world as buffalo bill. there are more guns here on a per capita basis in wyoming than anywhere else in the country. and the passion for firearms is ingrained at a young age. >> good job. families and their guns, here in the town that buffalo bill cody built, later on "sunday morning." >> cowan: we've asked still more of our cbs news colleagues for help with this explore rakes of guns and america. first, let's go to the newsroom where elaine quijano has the "sunday morning" headlines. >> federal investigators will return to a corn field near maxwell, texas, today where a hot air balloon crashed yester k >> the deflated balloon appears unscathed from the firer crash but all that's left is the frame. >> significant loss of life. >> eric grosof is an investigator with the ntsb. >> much like a crime scene. make sure we do everything correctly. >> the balloon caught fire in flight. witnesses initially thought it margaret wylie lives nearby. >> i looked off, you saw a big

. >> reporter: trump told senior cbs news contributor ted koppel it's not all that different from realityelevision. >> my whole life has been winning. i won, whether i did the "apprentice." and went on television. >> you can't compare anything you've done before. >> tremendous success in business. tremendous success with -- i go into television, i do a show, it's a big success. i wrote books, they are very successful. >> there is nothing like running president of the united states. >> i agree. i agree. there is nothing like it. >> reporter: trump today head to roanoke, virginia, and winston-salem, north carolina. his anemic bounce in our cbs poll with the republic national convention. recently polls this morning show trump with as much as as a six-point presidential bounce. >> the president tells cbs news trump's statements that the u.s. might not stand with nato allies shows a lack of readiness on foreign policy. mr. obama gave a wide ranging interview to "face the nation" moderator and cbs news political director john dickerson and he is here with us in philadelphia. >> good morning. >>

book --ead that couples ted koppel's book. it's as you were interviewed in ourber, 2014 about preparedness and the aftermath of the successful cyber attack on the electrical power grid. when asked what would happen in the event that several transformers were knocked out, exists,her the backlog i'm sure we have the capability overen backup just three and he responded that most people expect we have enough tools to get power turned on quickly. the answer is no. it has been two years since her meeting, whatr would happen in the event that several transformers were knocked out. how would you go about replacing them and what kind of backlog will he does exist? >> i remember the interview well. he seemed to have a thesis that he wanted my interview to fit within. thesis not was his seem to be interested in much as i had to say. we haven't interested -- incident response plan -- we have an incident response plan. the prioritization of assets. movie generators from one region to another. this is a partnership with private utilities in

bookd ted koppel's entitled "lights out." book. very interesting it says you were interviewed in october 2014 about our nation from preparedness in the aftermath of a successful cyber attack on the electrical power grid. when asked what would happen in the event that several transformers were knocked out, and whether a backlog exists, you responded "i'm sure fema has the capability to bring in backup transformers." yet when the fema administrator was asked the same question he responded "most people expect that somehow we have some tools in the tool chest to get power turned back on quickly. the answer is no." been two years since your meeting with mr. koppel. i will ask you the same question. what would happen in the event several transformers were not out? knocked out? what backlog exists? i rememberohnson: that interview well. mr. koppel seem to have a thesis he wanted my interview to fit in. beyond his thesis, he did not seem interested in much else i had to say. we do have a response plan in the event that generators are knock

ted, but my views are have very different. and this week we had a chance to debate at california state university. former defense secretary, cia chief, and congressman, leon panetta served as our moderator. koppelg, the proliferation of media outlets had hurt abc, nbc, and cbs and then broadened his indictment. >> that kind of constitution has led to the diminution of network news divisions, long before twitter came along. long before facebook came along. long before snapshots. snapchats? they keep throwing around the world democracy. there has been a democracization of communication in this country. more people, more individuals are are able to get into the dialogue. and we look upon that as though, because the word democracy is somehow attached to it, that it is necessarily a good thing. i think it's a disaster. we do not live in a democracy. we live in a republic. >> it sounds like you would prefer the days when the megaphones were largely limited to these media organizations and that you feel like a lot of people out there aren't particularly informed and maybe shouldn't carry much weight. >> well, to a certain extent, that's correct. >> i tried to counter the notion that card-carrying jour