i'm watching "nightline" with ted koppel appears rudy giuliani is being entered to and he barely mentions. instead what he says is my policies are working. new york is safer than it's ever been and i have the most restrained, best behaved police force in the united states. and i am thinking, your policies are working and you've got an unarmed man with no criminal record who has just been coming down? there is something going on here. so as a scholar and continuing to work and then ferguson in 2014. all of the pundits regardless of the ideological venue are asking why are black people burning where they live? they are talking about this black rage as buildings are on fire. i'm shaking my head no going this is white rage. i have lived in missouri for 13 years. i saw what policies could do and how they undermine access. i suffered an out in a city like ferguson that is 36% black but the voter turnout was only 6%. think about the kind of policies for 67% of the population into 6% of the voting population. i saw a school district on probation for 15 years. .. at emery university and i teach hu

charlie: ted koppel is here. he served as anchor and managing editor of abc's "nightline" from 1980 to 2005, 25 years. earlier this year he became a special contributor to cbs sunday morning. he's won eight george foster peabody scombaurds 42 emmys. his recent book, "lights out: a cyberattack, a nation unprepared, surviving the aftermath," is now in paperback. i'm pleased to have him at this table. welcome. ted: thank you. charlie: it's great to have you here. 25 years at "nightline." ted: if we could just get rid of the cameras, we could do what we always do, sit and gossip. this political campaign season, you have seen a lot of -- ted: yes. charlie: does it signal that somehow all of politics is going to change and this is a con flexion point for the way we play american politics and the way we cover american politics and the way the parties get along? ted: i think it is, charlie, but less because of what is happening to the political system than what is happening to our business. we have totally demotte cratiz

to find out why one corner voted as it did, senior correspondent ted koppel traveled deep into the heart to report our "sunday morning" cover story. >> when coal was king mcdowell county, west virginia, was a thriving place full of promise when the mines started shutting up to and the economy cratered. but the people who still live here heard something in donald trump's message that gave them hope. >> if we do have a chance he could help us out. >> later, the voters of mcdowell county gave donald trump a 4-1 margin of victory. now they're waiting to see what happens next. j we have huge war tie of freethrow to look through. collected by man known for his music. with anthony mason, we'll let the collector shows us around. >> how many photographs do you have? >> probably near 8,000. >> 25 years ago sir elton john suddenly started collecting photographs. >> had something changed in you? >> yeah, i got sober. >> today, his collection is one of the most important in the world. >> this is a -- i love this. >> ahead on "sunday morning," sir elton john gives us a tour. >> a hollywood legend has

has his hand up ted koppel's back. [ laughter ] [ cheering ] >> didn't pick-- >> shame, shame. you woulda gone out here chuckling, but now, you're going out with vi-- with visions of those dumb pictures, dancing in your head. my first guest is a good friend. he-he does everything well, in the entertainment business. uh, he's an actor, comedian, director. producer, writer, uh, snappy dresser, all-around-- >> nice guy. >> y-yes, nice guy. would you welcome ca [ cheering ] >> i can't believe-- you're possessed of the devil. >> i feel so good! [ some laughter ] >> saint vitus dance-- >> you know, i listened to that band. that last time i was out, that band inspired me-- >> and you did a little dance-- >> yes. >> and i was so happy i didn't have a heart attack. [ laughter ] no, when you get to be my age, you lose certain faculties. you lose hair. you lose your ability to remember people's names. uh, e-e... [ laughter ] >> uh, meese. meese. >> but that's a lotta movement. >> yes. >> that's tough. >> so, i'm h-- now at the poi-- by the way-- i'm at the point in my life where it was h-

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our cover story is reported by senior correspondent ted koppel. >> mcdowell county, west used to be,. they used to be 100,000 people in the county. used to be. back when coal mines ran three shifts a day. that's another used to be. automation cut back the workforce, machines replaced men. that was already an issue back in 1960 when john f. kennedy ws campaigning here. >> at least four or five things the government can do. >> jfk carried the county. they used to be staunch democrats. used to be. >> i graduated from high school in 1973. >> one of the most prosperous in the states. these were the billion dollar coal fields they were just enjoying the richness of it. now we're on the bottom. >> most of the mines are closed down the county is down to fewer than 19,000 residents. too many of those on welfare and food stamps. the national rate. this used to be a wal-mart. used to be. when the voters went to the polls last tuesday. >> you look at our mine, hillary clinton wants to put all the miners out of business. >> i'd say, 90% of west virginia will vote for donald trump. not a xavier, if