ted michaels and anita gardener would say let the poor folks stay and look after the house. michaels called the cops on a stripper trying to tear the aluminum drainpipe off a house at 11:00 in the morning. in a 150 foot radius around a vacant house, property values go down at least $7,000. it's usually denuded of plumbing fixture, boiler, carpeting, sinks, toilet and any architectural sconces that can be peddled. yellow foreclosure stickers and plywood windows are ini invitat. inner city scavengers salvage the last pennies out of a house until demolition. so after all that, i should tell you that my book has a happy ending. [laughter] when i went back to lansing, i found out that the fisher body plant -- whose demolition had helped inspire the book -- had actually been replaced. it was obsolete because it was costing general motors millions of dollars a year. so they acquired some land out in the country and put the whole operation under one roof. the plant on the grand river, which was 100 years old, was also tomorrow down and replaced and now builds the cadillac ats which w

ted cruz. >> william shatner, michael j. fox. hall. >> is he willgible to be president of the united states? >> he was born in canada, perhaps not. >> ted cruz was asked about it. he produced his birth certificate. the president dragged his feet for years. >> i'm not sure where he was born. it's not. >> he was definitely born in canada. >> no doubt about it. >> all right. why doesn't president just produce his birth certificate. >> he spent a lot of the lot of his youth in indonesia. >> his early years were in hawaii smoking something. >> you think it was all racial. >> i'm shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. >> your wings, sir. >> thank you very much. >> if people now question ted cruz's birth certificate, is that racial? >> i'm not going to get into the legal debate. >> i don't know what the heck you're talking about. >> i'll let other people worry about the legal. >> number one, he's an intellectual and he went to harvard. >> i'm the product of christian education. >> god's dead. satan lives. there's no heaven. >

michael, you watch him. i feel like ted cruz is building his own brand.aul seems to be interested in taking over the republican party. >> rand paul -- >> seems to be a difference. >> a big difference and i think is fascinating to watch from my perspective at least is what rand paul is doing is much more about building a new institution. >> that's what it means. building his vision which is more like its original roots in libertarianism as opposed to what it has become since reagan left office. this party today is not the party of reagan and rand paul knows it. that is his hook. >> that is going to be interesting to watch. ted cruz wants to have his clean as clean as it can be from the establishment. shameless plug? you first? >> as a daughter of a recently retired kindergartner teacher, shout out to all of the teachers getting their kids ready for school. >> go to national parks because they could be shut down four weeks from now. >> a pretty good one. you're right! fair enough. >> as we get ready for the sequester conversation and a conversation about he

ted. randy jackson's daughter was 18 when her super star uncle died. she is speaking out about michaelackson, his death and the wrongful death trial. welcome. i can almost tell immediately you're a jackson. >> yes. >> you got the look, the face, you probably sing, as well, right? >> yes, i do. >> of course you do. >> you've lived in the home with the jackson family until you were two years old until recently and the last few years with paris jackson and michael's other children. debbie row made it clear paris there has suffered terribly since her father died. >> yes. >> how would you describe the reality of what her life has been like? >> it's rough. but i think for all three of them for the rest of my family and especially them three because that is -- that was the world and that was their father and because i know for me, when i was in high school, i had to get pulled out of school during the second trial because it was so painful for me and people would ask questions. i can't imagine what she went through in school and what the other kids are going through. >> i mean, you're randy's

his ex-wife is shedding light on what it was like to live with michael jackson and what it was like for his kids after he died. here is teds talking about her life with the king of pop including his journey with addiction that started after this accident in 1984 that burned michael jackson's scalp. she talked about the good times. he wanted to be the best parent he could be. photos of her, jackson and the children were sent in court. this was picking jackson up from a movie set. he stayed in costume. rowe broke down in tears while this video was played from 1996 in munich, germany. it's where rowe testified she saw doctors administer propofol to induce his sleep. she told her boss she was worried jackson was addicted to propofol. aeg lawyers say that's why they called her as a witness. >> i don't know how she couldn't do anything but help the case. she let everyone know people in michael's life were worried about the use in the '80s and '90s. paris doesn't feel like she has a life anymore. >>> good news on the fire lines in utah. a wildfire is 50% contained. officials say the fire only burned eight homes. originally, they

ted cruz. >> one thing and i know that eric michael dyson will have something to say about this, and there is a difference of the we are the change message espoused by president obama which was a forward thinking collaborate message about investing in the government and believing in a project which is the project of democracy. >> right. >> and the ted cruz version is that you guys decide this thing is broken and you tell us what to do. it is not a participatory version or collaborate version. >> it is ronald reagan but without any of the charisma or the authority that came from the grandfatherly being and bearing. ronald reagan could make a great speech and also have a sense of timeliness about tear down these walls and knew when to insert himself even though i disagreed with him, and the ideologues around him. there is a difference between campaigning and the popularity that he is able to evoke and governing which means that you have to compromise and talk to other people and disagree with them, and have the cajones to stand up against your own party and then forge consensus against a frayed

ted rowlands reports. it was a media frenzy outside this los angeles courtroom after michael jackson's ex-wife debbie rowe testified in the wrongful death trial against concert promoter aeg. rowe fought back tears giving jurors a riveting account of the pop singer's fear of pain and reliance on doctors. she described how doctors competed with each other treating jackson for pain after his hair caught on fire during the making of this 1984 pepsi commercial. rowe testified "these idiots were going back and forth." prescribing jackson with pain medications. >>"the dr.'s took advantage of him." she said. they also according to rowe introduced jackson to propofol, the drug that would eventually kill him. rowe, who worked for one of the doctors, dr arnie klein, said at first they used it during cosmetic procedures. but she said things changed during this 1997 "history" tour stop in munich germany where rowe says she watched as jackson was given propofol in a hotel room. she said it "looked like a surgical suite." as two anesthesiologists hired by jackson's u.s. doctors, put jackson to sleep. >>"the defense is c

michael churtoff. do you agree with ted koppel that we've done the work of al qaeda by creating this atmosphere of fear respect ted koppel as a journalist. but he never had the responsibility of having american lives on his shoulders and i think you have to understand that when you're president or a senior leader in the government and you have that responsibility. there's a different lens that you use. i think the reaction to boston is a good example. it was swift. i don't think people became overly panicked and they took it seriously and we gotten into a place where people do take it seriously, but are not hysterical. >> you were september cal about the over-reaction to some of the critics are calling it. does ted koppel has a good point? >> i think he has a good point. even though he wasn't responsible for the lives of americans, we have seen over the last week, we have closed embassies, warned americans all over the world and basically said that al qaeda is so powerful and pervasive around the world that they could do this to us anywhere, any time. >> when you see tv images of tanks in front of u.s.

michael tomaski and jim moore. let's talk about this thing now with ted cruz.et's take a look at what happened last night and what happened there. let's talk about republicans by the way, before we get to some of the pictures who care about winning in the future, some of the extreme tactics by people like ted cruz and others like threatening government shutdown in order to defund the affordable care act makes them nervous. here's what republican strategist mike murphy -- and he's one of the smart guys out there -- here's what he told the washington post. the party, the republican party is acting as if the entire world is a gop primary. that is a very dangerous way to operate. we have massive image problems with the greater electorate. and the silly antics of the purist wing are making our dire problems even worse. mike murphy is a smart guy. he has to win elections. what's cruz up to. >> running for presidency. >> winning the presidency on the hardest right we've seen. >> i doubt he's going to win the presidency. but i wouldn't put it past him winning the nomin

ted. >> good morning, kate. debbie rowe met michaelssues with drug abuse and then she had a front row seat as he spiraled out of control. it was a media frenzy outside this los angeles courthouse after michael jackson's ex-wife, debbie rowe, testified in the wrongful death trial against concert promoter aeg. rowe fought back tears giving jurors a riveting account of the pop star's fear of pain and reliance on doctors. she described how doctors competed with each other, treating jackson for pain after his hair caught on fire during the making of this 1984 pepsi commercial. rowe testified "these idiots were going back and forth prescribing jackson with pain medications. doctors took advantage of him," she said. they also introduced jackson to propofol, the drug that would eventually kill him. rowe who worked for one of the doctors said at first they used propofol during cosmetic procedures but she said things changed during this 1997 history tour stop in munich, germany, where she says she watched as jackson was given propofol in a hotel

ted cruz are lurching the party to the far right now. you can see it. the question, are they really going out there to take over the party? right wing surge, attempted coup or bluff? michael steele and steve mcmahon. i've been trying to frame this with the producers here. i'm not sure what the answer is. would ted cruz be all that upset if not only the government shut down but we ended up defaulting on the debt for a couple days? would he be upset with a lat or is that the price of doing business with an establishment? >> i think it's hard to say exactly where the thinking is going right now. i think that mind-set would be consistent with what the tea party members of the caucus came into washington to do. >> revolution? >> it would be to create the revolution inside the capitol hill itself, in the chamber itself that says this far and no further. the problem, though, the blowout, the ramifications. i'm all for, you know, defunding obama care. i think it's a monstrosity. >> even though it's the law of the land? >> even though its law of the land. this is the point, chris. >> what do you want to replace it with? >> well, republicans want to defund the department of educati

snowden and the nsa, special correspondent for nbc news ted koppel, and the chairman of the house homeland security committee, republican congressman michael mccaul. barton gellman, let me start with you. has edward snowden won? has he accomplished what he set out to do, which is not only get a debate going but force change in these programs? >> he has accomplished far more than anyone in his position could have reasonably hoped to have accomplished. he told me his greatest fear was that he would come out and do this and whole story would be -- you know, roiling around for a day and it would be gone. now you have president obama being forced to say that he welcomes the debate, which he welcomes sort of like the ceo who gets an angry letter yet writes back and says thank you for your interest in our surveillance programs. but it's top of the agenda now for two months. >> the president spoke out about snowden during his press conference on friday and said the following. >> i don't think mr. snowden was a patriot. as i said in my opening remarks, i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. snowden made these links

ted. >> good morning, carol. debbie rowe got to know michael jackson before he had any problems with drug abuse or drug addictionshe had a front-row seat to watch him spiral out of control. it was a media frenzy outside this los angeles courthouse after michael jackson's ex-wife, debbie rowe, testified in the wrongful death trial against concert promoter aeg. rowe fought back tears giving jurors accounts of his fear of pain and reliance on doctors. how doctors competed with each other treating him for pain after his hair caught on fire during the making of this 1984 pepsi commercial. rowe testified "these idiots were going back and forth prescribing jackson with pain medications. the doctors took advantage of hi him," she said. they also introduced him to propofol, the drug that would eventually kill him. rowe who worked for one of the doctors said they used propofol during cosmetic procedures, but she said things changed during this 1997 history tour stop in munich, germany, where she said she watched as jackson was given propofol in a hotel room. she said it, "looked like a surgical suite as two an theseiologi

ted. >>> now, i want to bring in criminal defense attorney and michael jackson's former attorney tom mesereaud's piece a very emotional day on the stand for debbie rowe. she was called by the folks representing aeg live. they are trying to prove that jackson had a long history with prescription drug abuse. what did we find out from her, do you think? who did she help taking the stand? >> first of all, this was davau view for me because in michael jackson's criminal trial in 2005 the prosecution called her thinking she would help them and she came across as very sensitive and emotional of j michael jackson and this seems like similar testimony. her love and care for michael jackson and her children is absolutely evident, if you're in front of her. she takes over the courtroom. i think she ended up helping the plaintiffs because these children are the plaintiffs and they're suing along with the grandmother. i think she showed michael was a very loving person, kind person and taken advantage of, a tragic person and i think she added a lot to the plaintiff's claim that aeg had every reason to kno

michael crowley. we're going to get that right. listen to ted cruz. to read to you what he said in the new issue of "time" magazine, our sister publication. he said a conservative is either stupid, too dumb to know the right answer and even worse, if they know the right answer, then they're evil. they want people to suffer. i suppose i feel mildly complimented in that they have recently invented a third category, which is crazy. ryan, what do you think about this rival that is emerging, ted cruz on one hand and chris christie on the other? >> i think it's very healthy. there was a recent pew study that found base republicans are not sufficiently conservative. on the other hand you have swing vote who are increasingly find it less attractive. you it tea party candidates doing very well because you have very different electorates. it's important to have this debate. i think it's a constructive thing. >> you know republicans in seeking the presidential nomination, they run to the right. but if they get that nomination, they immediately run to the center.

to discuss michael's book any conversation with the author, we are delighted to welcome back to the podium ted campbell. he is currently the ceo of the asian group and co-chairman of the board of the think-tank which he founded at the center for new american security. but he is probably better known to all of you has the just retired assistant secretary of state for east asia and pacific affairs, a position he held for the first four years of the obama administration. he was critically important and played a pivotal role if i can use that word in the development of president obama's strategy of putting the united states towards asia, and in that context of will be particularly interesting to learn from kurt about the lessons that can be drawn from his rendezvous with destiny. in that position, he received the distinguished service award. i point that out because of a too received the award and i saw how difficult it is to achieve it. [laughter] i got it for the negotiations and nobody can possibly remember the headline negotiations, but i do think everybody will remember the role that kurt cam

ted? >> well, wolf, it was not only emotional. it was incredibly engaging. she talked about what it was like to live a life with michael talked about watching a movie with him, "to kill a mockingbird" and calling gregory peck to talk about the movie, and watching his fall into addiction. it was absolutely mesmerizing. >> which side did she shep? >> aeg brought her on and she did one thing for them and that was to establish that michael jackson was using proposal for decades going back to his day for arnie cline who she worked for. for the jackson family attorneys, though, she humanized him more with these anecdotes and stories and jurors were riveted to that. so, i think in totality, she really helped both sides. >> ted rowlands with the latest on that trial, thanks very much. >>> we're learning new details about the mysterious location known as, quote, area 51. for decades a lot of conspiracy theorists out there, they've suggested it's a secret area in the nevada desert where the u.s. government hid evidence of a ufo crash. newly declassified cia reports and a map now tell a very different story. area 51 exists in sou

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michael's point, i think that's the long-term implication. this continues to be the face of the gop, whether it's donald trump, whether it's ted cruz.oing to show a clip in a moment. in fact, i'll show it to you right now. senator ted cruz's father, rafael cruz, also spoke at the iowa summit family leadership and also compared obama to fidel castro. >> a young charismatic leader rose up talking about hope and change. his name was fidel castro. socialism requires that government becomes your god. that's why they have to destroy the concept of god. they have to destroy all loyalties except loyalty to the government. that is what is behind homosexual marriage. >> susan, the point being that this continues to be the face, the brand of the gop. i doubt any of the people that we've just discussed who were on those stages is going to be the nominee and could be elected president, but people sitting at home watching this sort of thing, it reinforces that's where the party is today. >> you know, i agree with you. i think that what reverend cruz was talking about comparing barack obama to fidel castro played pretty well in that audience but i

michael jackson and realize that there's something very, very wrong. there's the knowledge that aeg had where the plaintiffs say that they are now responsible for his death. >> ted rowlands, look, i'm counting these days and i cannot believe how long this trial has gone on. we're at day 69 now. jury is affected by famous faces and famous names. debbie rowe ended up being a famous name. why have they held on to her testimony until so long in the process? >> reporter: well, they are establishing their case. as you mentioned, it has been excruciating. 69 days. imagine that. but there is a ton of money at stake and a lot of this testimony has been dry. today will be the opposite. it should be very interesting. one thing, alan duke has been in this courtroom every day and i said, the jurors must be in hell. he said, no, the jury has created a family. everyone seems to be in a good mood and they are having some level of fun. some may be going broke at $15 a day. they don't seem angry which is what you would think with a 69-day and counting trial. >> when you say counting, how much more? do you know if we'll go in to christmas with this thing? >> reporter: they are say

michael, whose got the republican roots here. it seems we got a bunch more examples recently. i'm going to run through stockman now and this tedt's not like they're a majority. but hen they creep up sort of like weeds growing through the sidewalk that. >> just keep growing. nobody pulls them out and says no, that's not our party. why won't your leader, people like boehner, who isn't a bad guy just say this is unacceptable, it's unamerican, stop talking like that. he says sort of like mao in the old days. let a thousand flowers bloom. anybody has an opinion, they're all valid. let's listen to them. >> i think that's part of the problem. a lot of them is fear of them. they're scared to death of that base. they don't want to get on the wrong side of it. >> these whack jobs waving certificates and flags. >> because when you get back home in that environment and that pressure cooker starts to build around your support of the president or saying something nice about the president which what makes john mccain stand oout all the more. in the heat of a presidential debate and battle he was willing to say no, this man is a decent human

michael: we're still three years away from the next presidential election, but campai campaign season as already lifted off. a mixed bag of republicans hit up iowa over the weekend, including rick sanatorium, and tedand hillary clinton wasn't there in person, but missouri senator claire mccaskill was. she supported the obamas in '08 and made some pretty cold comments about the clintons back then, and continues to make comments like this. >> we have to have millions of people engaged and ready for what will be a pivotal race in america's history, and that is about getting everyone excited now, and what i hope will be that moment in 2017, when we all get to say madam president to hilary rodham clinton. >> michael: joe biden shows signs he might run. he'll be in iowa to speak. and public policy polling put out a survey of what hawk eye dems are thinking at least for now. in july they mound clinton leads biden 71-12. it's hard to say what might happen in the 2016 campaign, except that it's starting way too early, after all president obama was only reelected nine months ago. at this time in the cycle, no one considered the new senator with a funny came to even with a candidate. so who knows what might

the michael jackson wrongful death trial heats up today when the late singer's ex-wife takes the stand. debbie rowe is expected to face questions about her former husband's drug use and marriage. tedsuing the singer's concert promotors saying the company hired the doctor who administered that deadly dose of medicine to jackson. how can her testimony help or hurt their case? >> reporter: well, aeg is hoping it will hurt their case be bringing her on the stand. they're story is that michael jackson was a drug addict for decad decades. she was with him on a concert tour in germany where he was using this. they want to continue their narrative that nobody else knew about it including aeg. she's the perfect witness to say here is documentation he was a drug user and used propofol. >> she could definitely offer that perspective and she's a nurse too. that's one factor to play into this. how much longer is the trial expected to continue given the jury has listened to three months of texas so far. >> reporter: it's dragged on. this is day 69 of testimony. are they think it's going to go another month, maybe month and a half. they have more witnesses. some doctors and rebi jackson they wil

ted rowlands. >> reporter: todd is determined to find out who he really is. his story goes back to april 1964 at michaelating the birth of their baby boy paul when a woman posing as a nurse kidnapped the 1 day old newborn. it was front page news and the the parents could do nothing but wait. and then just a year later this boy was found abandoned in newark, new jersey. investigators thought it could be baby paul because his ears were similar. with dna not available, they couldn't just hand him over. the fronczaks adopted him. >> they are great parents. >> reporter: the boy grew up as paul, living a great life in the chicago suburbs. as an adult, decades later living in las vegas with a family of his own, he decided to take a dna test because he always had questions. >> and i started thinking honestly what are the chances that the kidnapped baby of chicago that i am their kidnapped child found in new jersey 2 1/2 years later. it's pretty wild. >> reporter: the results confirmed that paul was not the baby stolen from the hospital. he now wants to find out his true identity and now nearly 50 years later, b

ted rollins has more. >> by all account, debbie rowe was a fantastic witness. she was emotional, breaking down several times and funny. tell stories about spending time with michaeln. what is unclear is which side did she help. in a second day of testimony, jacks jackson's ex-wife mesmerized juror, talking about her life with the king of pop, including his journey into addiction, which she said started after this accident in 1984 that burn michael jackson's scalp, but she also talked about the good times. he wanted to be the best parent he could be. rowe said as photos of her, jackson and her children were shown in court. this photo was taken when she picked jackson up on her motorcycle from a movie set. he said in costume while she gave him a ride and she broke down in tears while this concert video was played from 1996 in munich, germany. ♪ hold you in my arms munich is where she testified she saw doctors administer doses of propofol to induce jackson's sleep. she said she told her boss, jackson's dermatologist, that she was worried that jackson was addicted to propofol. aeg lawyers say that's why they called her as a witness. >> i don't know how she couldn't d