for example, a former solicitor general ted olson, and a former solicitor general charles fried. host: of the conservatives voted for her during that solicitor general confirmation. guest: yes, she was approved by a vote of 61-31 and she won support from seven republicans. not a high number, but there were some key votes, including senator orrin hatch, a republican from utah. host: what happens next? guest: there will be a lot of activity over the next four or five weeks. the record will be scrutinized by critics and supporters. the hearing will begin. senator leahy and senator sessions will schedule the hearings. it could be the last week in june or maybe early in july. they have to navigate among a lot of different factors, including a traditional recess around the fourth of july. last year president obama named sotomayor on may 26 in the hearings began in july. he is getting a little jump on things. host: if you follow the time line of sotomayor's confirmation, when you see a possible confirmation for elena kagan? guest: easily by july. she took her oath in early august. she c