paul ryan spending time in virginia over the weekend and practicing with ted olsson, the former stateolice tolicitor ge biden practicing with chris holland. what does that tell you about how they are trying to prepare? >> van hollan is the ranking member of the budget committee. he knows ryan well. he knows ryan is a font of information. he can crunch numbers with the best of them and van holland is one of the best republicans in the country to go toe to toe with ryan in the number game. ted olsson is a brilliant courtroom lawyer capable of the rhetorical flourishes we know joe biden is famous for. both are good fits. this is going to be a year y where the vp debate could have outsize importance. there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go af