that was interesting to me because ted oulson was the only person who lost in that high-ranking bush administration official who lost someone. his wife was on board one of those flights. so i called ted and i said i wanted to do the story. i did the story and i couldn't let it go. it was a really audacious thing they were doing. it was a controversial thing that they did and there was a lot of people who believed at that time that the country was not ready and more importantly the supreme court wasn't ready. i describe in the book this lunch scene where they planned this lawsuit in secret and they finally kind of let in, they invited some of the lawyers supreme court lawyers who had been wished working on this issue for many years. they kind of let them in on the plan. it was like, it was that rob reiner's house. rob reiner was part of this group that brought this lawsuit. he was instrumental in getting the funding to bring the lawsu lawsuit. the lawyers were like, you don't have two count to five and 1.1 of the lawyers threw down his dossier on the dining room table and said you know