you start reading about ted turner saying i could be a guy like that?, absolutely. >> and that's why you were reading those books, they were inspirational? >> definitely. why not me? why can't i do this? >> when you were in junior high maybe, you were an overweight stamp collector. >>bue pretty much. >> were you bullied? >> a couple times. i had great friends but, yeah, i remember one time getting punched in the stomach and not responding. i remember one time playing pick-up football, and some dude kicked me, and, you know, i kind of went at him, but i had no chance. he just threw me down. >> i also read on occasion you bullied others. >> one time. >>lt tell me about it. >> his name was bobby walker, and i punched him in the stomach. immediatelyab after, i felt horrible, just horrible. andsc i remember not saying anything about it for years, but my first high school reunion that i went back to, i saw him, and i apologized to him. he was like i don't remember any of it, but i'm like, yeah, i did, and it bothered me. >> what'd you get from that? >> that i