[laughter] >> tweed, you are descended from teddy roosevelt. e you asked if you are descended from franklin roosevelt much? >> i don't get that much. but what i do get, is did you know tr? which i find insulting since he died in 1920, but these younger kids, they never know. >> let's talk about teddy roosevelt. after he was president, he took a trip to africa. and then down the amazon. he almost died. he was thinking of committing suicide because it was so unsafe and dangerous for him, and he got ill. you later did the same trip. he wrote a book about it. why did you decide to do that? >> let me correct the suicide thing. he told somebody years later, whenever he went on an adventure like this, and he went on many, he always took enough morphine with him to kill himself. the reason he did that, if he felt he was so sick that it threatened the other people on the trip that he would take it and so other people could get out. he said, the only time i ever thought about that was the amazon trip. but i didn't take it. because i was with my son. his s

alice roosevelt gambled, partied and was even seen wearing a live snake. this led her father teddy r roosevelt to say i can be president of the united states or i can control alice. i cannot possibly do both. many presidential have gone on to great things, two presidential children have later become presidents themselves. other children of presidents and their children have made contributions to american life representing a wide variety of fields including educators and enlt faentertainers, activities and artists. steve ford even became a national villian as the boyfriend who broke meg ryan's heart in "when harry met sally." we've been honored to have over 40 descendents of american presidents join us. the unique representatives are from james monroe to george w. bush. and amazingly, it's going to be here in a few minutes, but we'll be a few degrees removed from the tenth president of the united states john tyler. he served from 1841 to 1845. he was born in 1790. and president tyler's grandson will be here. i'm not talking about his great grandson or great, great grandson, his actu

what was it like growing up as teddy roosevelt. >> guest: the most important thing for teddy roosevelt growing up was that he suffered from an almost life-threatening asthma when he was a child which meant he couldn't participate in physical activities but meant that he developed his mind. he read books, too like lincoln did in every spare moment he could fine. unlike lincoln all he needed to do is pull a book of the library shelf or told his father, who he loved and had a fabulous relationship with and he said he wanted a book it and magically disappear. the read 50 novels one summer and his father took him on trips around the world himself father was like a tutor and evenly that sense of reading became a huge part of him. he said that books were the greatest companion that a leader needs to know about human nature more anything net world and the best way to learn about human nature is through books. for him, too, books created an alternative future but a here's theirs little kid who wants to be fearless person and he is very timid and he's got this asthma, so he reads about explorers

goodwin, the book focuses on president lincoln, teddy roosevelt, fdr and lyndon johnson. why did you pick those books? >> that's why felt closest to. each one of those four lived inr a very turbulent time in a time of crisis which often makes the leadership more necessary and more possible. when i chose the title, "leadership in turbulent times" come i didn't think it to do as well as it does today. [inaudible] sometimes we think we're looking at the work of time and yet if we look back at what abe lincoln when he went into office comest boulware was 600,000 people were going to i die on the horizon, f you'd ever known how difficult it would be to get through the first t month he would've thougt he could live through it. he comes into the industrial revolution, when it would break out. after your of course at the height of the depression nlg albie june assassination of jfk. [inaudible] i wanted people to remember that we've done it before we could do it again. >> cabal discovered personal personal political [inaudible] >> it argues it's one of the most important qualities

it was quite a lot of b brilliance. >> is the 6000 teddy roosevelt's brother elliott was the father eleanor. so eleanor's uncle is teddy. he had epilepsy became an alcoholic and idea. and franklin lovee teddy roosevelt. >> and growing up in a wealthy setting but with hyde park but if anybody thought he will be president of the unitedn state? >> certainly not fdr. and to be at the center of their parents live to give them a certain confidence. but the other siblings to make them the center of their life. to tell them stories and sit around. and in fact he so wanted to be this. everybody's life that his daughter said wanted to be the baby at the baptism and the pride at the wedding and the corpse of the funeral and with this library but he learned in a different way he would like to listen to his motherto read. he loves stamps. it was his way to have the evidence her mother said you're not listening to me he said i would be ashamed of myself if i can do two things at the same time. but he was not a regular student. at harvard or columbia that oliver wendell holmes him much later. then to be b

this is just one example of the teddy roosevelt books i i have read. there has been many. this one is special because i happen to visit with teddy roosevelt the fourth in my office and he autographed this book of his ancestor for me. he, like his ancestor, process roosevelt is very interested and involved his in environment. and as i've met you and the passion he had for the environment is interesting to see how that is passed down from generation to generation and it is interesting to me teddy roosevelt the fourth to make you authored a book and proceeds go where? >> yes. this this came out 2,004. i was a homicide detective in the early '80s and became a detective called the greed -- green river serial murder cases over 19 year span, i will call him the devil of a human being, a monster and the live between 60 and 70 people people. he pled guilty going through dna microscopic paint the pled guilty to 49 murders we closed 51 cases 51 cases a couple of cases we didn't have all of the evidence we needed to charge him but we knew he had committed those also so we closed 51 ca

miss goodwin, your most recent book focuses on president lincoln, teddy roosevelt, fdr, and lyndon johnson. why did you pick those four? >> those were four i felt closest too. i spent the most time studying and interestingly each one of those four lived in a very turbulent time, in a time of crisis, which often makes leadership more necessary, more possible. when i chose the title, leadership in turbulent times, i didn't expect it to be as it was today. in a certain sense i hope it can give us reassurance. times we think we're living in the worst of times. yet if you look back at what faced lincoln when he first came into office. a civil war with 600,000 people who were going to die just on the horizon, if he had ever known out difficult it would be to get through those first months, he would thought he could not have lived through it. theodore roosevelt comes in the industrial revolution, there was fear of revolution, between labor and management would break out. fdr at the height of the depression. lbj with the assassination of jfk. they were fitted for their times. especially lbj for ci

teddy roosevelt went to the north rim to go mountain lion hunting. there used to be a lot of mountain lions there and there were hundreds of them that were killed over the years. the forest service hired a ranger to kill the mountain lions and nobody was quite thinking ecologically and thinking what happens if you kill all the predators, well the prey are going to explode. there was a massive population explosion of deer. teddy roosevelt tried his best to make this a national park and he could not persuade arizonans or congress to make it a national park. in 1908, he made it a national monument by signing a bill. certain protections but still a lower-level protection. it did not remove all of the private mining claims or ranching claims or timber claims. he was dead for a few months before the grand canyon finally became a national park in 1919. he always regretted he did not succeed in making it a national park. it partly became a park because their railroad was here first and they were bringing in tourists and they were loving it and bringing in mo

what was it like growing up as teddy roosevelt. >> guest: the most important thing for teddy roosevelt growing up was that he suffered from an almost life-threatening asthma when he was a child which meant he couldn't participate in physical activities but meant that he developed his mind. he read books, too like lincoln did in every spare moment he could fine. unlike lincoln all he needed to do is pull a book of the library shelf or told his father, who he loved and had a fabulous relationship with and he said he wanted a book it and magically disappear. the read 50 novels one summer and his father took him on trips around the world himself father was like a tutor and evenly that sense of reading became a huge part of him. he said that books were the greatest companion that a leader needs to know about human nature more anything net world and the best way to learn about human nature is through books. for him, too, books created an alternative future but a here's theirs little kid who wants to be fearless person and he is very timid and he's got this asthma, so he reads about explorers

and, look, chris, go back and look at what they said about teddy roosevelt, who happens to be on mount rushmore, who by most accounts was a pretty successful president. it's the exact same language they used about him. he was mercurial. he got angry at the press. guess what, he got things done. >> corey, i'm going to send you a present called theodore x, and you read what is a very good take on teddy roosevelt from a young age to where he got -- he is nothing like donald trump. he is not analogized to donald trump in any way. him defining -- >> chris, that's not true. >> -- a bully pulpit and him being seen as strong, he was never reviewed the way donald trump is, and you know that. he was a war hero who came in with a reputation. he was not cited by his own staff. >> chris, i will send you the op-eds that were written on teddy roosevelt that say exactly the same things they say about donald trump. >> no way. you show me where they said -- go ahead. finish your point. >> the individuals who are attacking donald trump today like george will, when they raised those same issues about tedd

teddy roosevelt lost his wife and mother on the same day. and he came out of it and became a larger leader. fdr's polio set him into depression. but he became a larger leader. the real difference is do you learn through loss and the difference between president trump, is he has said the reason he has the best tell me pra meant is because he has never lost. unless you can reflect on your losses and absorb them and be stronger, then you stay static. >> lincoln respects -- whether it is crowd sizes or speeches were well-written about. like the gettysburg address, even lincoln's gettysburg address was castigated which wasn't true. >> he was telling the people, do you remember he was a republican. he is one of us. and it is wonderful to have heroes and i wish all my guys can come back and talk to him. so many lessons they can teach him. even president obama and his relationship, you can learn from the people who went before. why not look back on them and get advice from them rather than you feel like you have to best them. although sometimes they

when he was a young man, teddy roosevelt jr.to sustain a democratic republic like the united states. and that's the point here today. that the things that john mccain's life was about, the things that he stood for, those essential virtues, valor, courage, the heroism, kindness, love, decency, all of it, are necessary in a country like ours for it to succeed, and all those virtues are in regression and are under attack in this moment in time, so what we saw today from two former presidents, a republican and a democrat who were fierce rivals of each other was a rebuke to this vile and low moment in the history of this country, and make no mistake about it, the rebukes were intentional, they were purposeful, and they were designed by john mccain himself to in this hour of his death to instigate one last political fight. he was often quoted as saying a fight not joined is a fight not joined. and i think he would love the spectacle of the fight he instigated because when i was talking earlier about the spirit of defiance that so defi

teddy roosevelt it was different. because he knew that he was ready to be president.en everything. he had been police commissioner, civil service commissioner. governor, soldier, vice president, and as soon as he got in there, he said the first day i am now president. he didn't feel that sense of inadequacy. >> he was pretty cocky, too. he it to reign that in. you have to have a pretty big ego to want the job. >> it was said about teddy he wanted to be the baby at the baptism and bride at the wedding and corpse at the funeral. >> neil: he was bigger than life character. they would put it on the line and sometimes some of their hardship fdr with polio and what have you, they can be life-defining and change empathy for average man or woman. and all of these individuals, and johnson's as well came later in life, they all did okay except abraham lincoln. talking about boot steps and all. he never lost the common touch. >> absolutely. abraham lincoln would have meetings every morning ordinary people come in and ask him for a job. for two hours he would spend listening to t

teddy roosevelt was very strongly in favor of getting into the war. but a lot of people within and without the republican party had the opposite feeling. this is senator robert lafallott, and he was opposed to getting into the war. his argument was the germans have done nothing to hurt us. they are not going to invade the united states. the zimmerman telegram was irrelevant. and if the british want our goods so badly, let them send their own ships over here. why do we have to go into harm's way? we have no quarrel with the germans, and a lot of people in the united states supported that idea, particularly the farther west you got. there was this great sense that somehow people like teddy roosevelt and others in the big cities in the east were trying to whip up war enthusiasm, maybe to save wall street which had invested so much in the allies or maybe just to establish a , stronger financial footing for banks of the east. and westerners didn't care for that so much. in late february of 1917, the woman on your right carrie , chapman catt, the head of th

teddy roosevelt loses his wife and mother on the same day in the same house.e goes to the badlands and he becomes stronger. he becomes a westerner rather than an easterner. if you go through adversity with resilient, hemingway said, everyone is broken by leitch, but sometimes people are stronger in the broken places. that's what worries me about president trump. he always wins, he never loses. and the exploration of history suggests that going through loss is critical. and these guys went through it and they came out the other end. >> and borrowing a trait that is the best of the web, i read your books on paper, and in the latter stage of the book, you use sub heads to talk about leadership qualities that they all across the board have in common. rapid response, transparency, modern terms that teddy roosevelt believed in. >> right, right. >> and abraham lincoln believed in. >> it's like a family resemblance. each leader is depending on the time, they have to be there. some are stronger for sometimes, other than not. the man fits the times. but there is a famil

teddy roosevelt has shaken the economy more than the tech and global revolution have today.re is a feeling there will be a revolution. obviously fdr comes in at the height of the depression. and john kennedy has just been killed when lbj comes in and there is a feeling there was a conspiracy abroad. yet each one of those leaders was fitted for the time. yet i think leaders get through that and we get through it stronger than ever before. i think now the feeling of the lack of moorings, we don't have that feeling of unity against the divisions. >> you told me lincoln is the one you go back to again and again for a lesson in leadership, and you said teddy roosevelt could directly apply to this president, president trump. what could donald trump learn from these presidents in particular? >> i think from lincoln he could learn to use hot letters. when lincoln was angry with somebody, he would write a mean letter to somebody, set it aside and hope he would cool down psychologically and never would send it. so if there was a person that it just didn't go anywhere, went into the fi

suddenly, vice president teddy roosevelt is sworn in.ambitions is a gut rehab of the executive mansion. >> 1902 was a major reshaping of the symbol of the white house into a more worldly time. america became more international, and the white house was redone to be compatible with that. >> t.r.'s goal is to return it to its original federalist incarnation, while clearing it out to accommodate a brood of six children and a pony. it also means separating the living quarters from our nation's most important executive offices. >> he moved the offices out of the family floor and built the west wing. he reorganized the place so it wasn't just an old plantation house. >> to that end, roosevelt's architects rearrange the entrance, removing this stairway and these victorian tiffany panels from the cross hall -- as well as all that old ornamental woodwork, like the plinths. the workers pile loads of rubbish outside, and souvenir hunters snatch it up. >> there is one letter from theodore roosevelt, and he said, "people are scattering around for souv

it tells the story of teddy rooseve roosevelt. in town some voiced anxiety about the current president's foreign policy. >> i'm not a trump supporter. i thought i was but after what's been going on, i'm not no more. i mean, he's just doing things i think aren't good for our country. >> i worry about national debt, standing on the world s which has been suffering. >> reporter: historian says he's a republican but not a trump supporter. >> it may be the party of trump for a little while. that won't always be the case. it'll swing to the right, swing to the left. >> reporter: his girlfriend, emily walter, a self-described conservative democrat wishes more of the country could meet in the middle. >> we do try to come together and make that happen, but it's a very difficult situation right now. >> reporter: former campaign strategist joe wegan spends his days playing teddy roosevelt. >> everyone has their lunatic fringe. >> reporter: joe has his own views. >> par at thtat this -- partici. get out and meet your neighbors. >> in a place

he mentioned teddy roosevelt.the things i think you can glean from people quoting teddy roosevelt or robert jordan, the fictional character in "for whom the bell tolls" which john mccain would say is as real as anybody. because he had this romantic vision since he was young and he started to love books and to read novels of larger than life figures. and he was a romantic in that way, but he also liked drama. he understood pageantry. that was also very, very much on display today and also really all through the week from the fact that he chose specific songs to, as gloria was saying, probably putting people next to each other who wouldn't have otherwise broken bread or even sat next to each other. that was also and is also mccain's sense of drama and the romantic ideal of what could and should be. >> and also tradition. i would say dana and i were talking about this earlier this morning because it was dana who pointed it out to me. but his son james read this wre requim by robert lewis stevenson, which is exactly w

when teddy roosevelt came along at the turn of the 20th century, his short, punchy language was ableget into the mass market newspapers. fdr had the voice for radio. reagan and jfk had the looks and the ability to talk on television. and there's no question that president trump has mastered social media. everything he says becomes the narrative of that moment. even if it may not be the right narrative for keeping his agenda going, it puts him in the center of attention. so the question is though it allowed him to win the election i think in a lot of ways, but governing is different from campaigning. and sometimes what you are able to win with has to be censored when you finally get -- maybe people like the idea that he doesn't have a girder on like many politicians have but i think it's gotten him in a lot of trouble, some of the things he's said offhand. >> let's talk about the governing. obviously, many critics, as i suggested, are concerned about the degradation of democracy. and again, going back to lincoln, who apparently at the age of 28 wrote one of his great speeches, and he

lincoln, fdr, teddy roosevelt, harry truman, ronald reagan. one asks who did look to most in times of trouble after setting out an agenda. those men looked at batman. did you look at him because he was perfect? no. did they look at him because he was a self-made american success story that defined leadership in its own way? he knew how to consult it out and get things done. you get more about the everyday people that he did about political power, and prestige. and once he left office he had a lot of power afterwards. so when harry truman took office he had a a figurine of jacksonn his desk. before world war ii fdr in all his pain locked in his braces and walked up the steps to go to the hermitage before you put our nation again at work. when ronald reagan chose to give a speech after being elected he did it in front of the jackson statute. when they could want to keep our country together he looks back at jackson papers because jackson said to secretary duncan you want to leave? you've got about one week because you can decide to leave i'm cin

teddy roosevelt went to the north rim to go mountain lying hunting. there used to be a lot of mountain lions there. there were hundreds of them. to kill the ranger mountain lions. nobody was thinking ecologically then. what happens if you kill all the predators? there was this massive population explosion. hunting.sevelt loved he tried to make this a national park. could not persuade arizonans to make it a national park. he made a national monument which a president can do. that gave it certain protections. than he wanted. it didn't remove the private mining claims or ranching claims. he was dead for a few months before grand canyon came men in 1919. heelys regretted he didn't succeed in making it a national park. it finally became a cop -- part because the railroad was here first and tourists were bringing in money. arizona businessman or noticing. why exactly were we opposing making this a national park? up,ually as tourism started it's long opinions around to economic value. a lot of powerbrokers didn't seem to see that. got 6 million visitors here

teddy roosevelt after he was president went to the north rim to go why and hunting. he went to the north rim and there used to be a lot of lions there and there were hundreds that were killed over the years and they hired a ranger to kill the mountain lions and nobody was quite thinking ecologically then and thinking what happens if you kill all the creditors? the prey are going to be exposed so there's a massive population explosion here but teddy roosevelt loved hunting but he still loved the canyon for other reasons and he tried to designate this as a national park and he couldn't express way to congress to make a national park so in 1908 he made it a national monument which the president can do by signing the bill that gave it certain productions but it's a lower level than he wanted so it didn't remove all the mining claims or branching claims or timber claims. so he was dead for a few months before the grand canyon became a national park . he always regretted he didn't succeed. it became a park partially because the railroad was here for and bringing in tourist

he tried to make a virtue out of it, he said, you cannot make it teddy roosevelt out of me.back to that 10-year-old boy who did not know he could do something for pleasure without offending god. i always thought there was a direct connection between that the adulttold -- and hoover, who in many ways was emotionally stunted. -- in a most un-probable probable politician. every president is unique in his own way. thatf the lessons i think hoover's story teaches us is beware of successful businessman, because the qualities that drive is the success, the ability -- that drive business success, the ability to work with a board of directors, the knowledge that your directions will be carried out, that's not the same as working with congress. congress was nominally republican the first half of his term and then marshall a democratic the second half. -- been marginally democratic the second half. hoover is one of those very rare presidents, taft comes to mind, quasi-madison comes to mind. almost too rational, too cerebral, who don't have in their dna what ever the political gene is t

thinkoue >> i understand what you say.tet one of the things teddy roosevelt said if the people oft the different sections across the country couldn't see other o people's point of view but that is what you need these people to do to go across party lines that we have had so many divisions these last fewju years whether republicans or democrats as if the other side has nothing thati they have spots ability right now to think of our country itil is always bottom-up like the hetislavery movement civilts mot movement forights now is the time to band together what we want from our leaderspol and what we want from our political system? about c what do we do about campaignas r finance? can do any problem created by man can be solved by man.hated by man cn be solved by man. i'm glad you brought that up. whost: identity politics andm,h tribalism have you ever had. where we are not in identitye he politics?? >> i think when we come togetheo or even with roosevelt could bring the east and the west toqe gather the capitalist the poorr whotheri rich also the secondde inaugural lobby. was lincoln an

. >> let's talk about teddy roosevelt.he has an experience like that no one wants to go through on one day that put him into a depression. >> he's in the state legislature and his wife alice, who he dearly loved. he fell in love with her at harvard. she was a beautiful young woman was having their first child. he got a telegram saying alice's child was born. they were all celebrating the and our leader he gets another telegram saying you must come home immediately. your mother is dying and alice is dying too. the mother had come to take care of alice. shewas only 49 years old and she got typhoid fever . goes back home immediately, his brother meet him at the door and says the curse on this house. he goes inside, his mother is dying. shedies at 3:00 a.m. . 12 hours later, alice died in childbirth. they said he walked around in a dazed, stunned state. he previously had gotten a ranch that he might go now and then and he went for two years and became essentially a cowboy. he said as long as he could ride his horse 15 hours a

there is teddy roosevelt in the back. you will notice in the corner, there is a cloud that says popular indignation. there are times when roosevelt loved that. it helped him push his pet project. this is one of the first ones to meat and other foods to make sure they were not spoiled. when it came to muckrakers targeting his friends in the senate, he was a little less happy with it. he came up with the name muckrakers which he meant as a against the pass. as the 20th century advanced, both partisan and the muckraking press gave way to objective journalism. journalism traces back to the late 19th century. 1896. this is when the new york times was bought. he wanted to distinguish his newspaper. he dedicated it to objective reporting. a replacement for partisan papers and sensationalistic tabloids. the objective press was meant to usher in a golden age of june -- journalistic might meant. that is how you can have up -- a paper like the new times be classified as republican. the news pages were dedicated to news, it's opinion

i thought teddy roosevelt, when he had to do a biography, he chose andrew jackson.so i chose to take one passage of where andrew jackson emerged at a victory that people still can't make sense of. they still teach about it in college. my next project which i hope you are enthusiastic about which i can't get enough of no one wants to hang out with me because i can't stop talking about it. you forget that in the middle of a book or inthe middle of research ? i'm very simple. i pretty much think on one track all the time. i'm doing sam houston avenging the alamo and the link to them houston and jackson fighting in the creek war before jackson. getting wounded. jackson walking over and saying, i need more guys to finish them off and he gets up, fight the candidate gets shot again. they sent him back to washington to heal. they think he's going to die. he lives. jackson would mentor him. so i thought it was the perfect next step. to see what texas had done is fascinating. i always thought you had to be from texas to study texas because they get very resentful for a new y

>>host: how is he related to fdr. >> the sixth cousin but more importantly teddy roosevelt's brother brother elliott was the father of eleanor roosevelt that is the real connection so her father had epilepsy as a child became an alcoholic and dead yet -- died young so he became a father to eleanor and franklin loved teddy so they became a circle. >> growing up in a very wealthy setting he is an only child of his father's marriage with his mother but up in hyde park but if anybody thought the president of the united ldstates? >> certainly not fdr but the difference between him and teddy roosevelt they were the center of their parents love which gave them a certain confidence. with teddy not only the center of his father and mother's love but the other siblings made him the center of their lives because he would tell them stories after he read the books and he would organize their games and fdr was the center of his parents life and teddy wanted to be the center of everybody's life experience that as a child he wanted to be at the baby at the baptism and the bride at the wedding and the

and more than once during his careerjohn drew comparisons to teddy roosevelt and i'm sure it's been noted seems tailored to john. most roosevelt's man in the arena seems tailored tojohn. most of you know it, roosevelt speaks of those who strive and dare to do great things. sometimes they win and sometimes they come up short. but always relish the good fight. a contrast to those cold timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. isn't that the spirit we celebrate this week? that striving to be better. to do better. to be worthy of the great inheritance that our founders bestowed. so much of our politics and our public life, public discourse, can seem small and mean and petty. trafficking in bonn bustard and and petty. trafficking in bonn busta rd and insult. and petty. trafficking in bonn bustard and insult. —— bombast. phoney controversies and manufactured outrage, politics that pretends to be brave and tough when in fact it is born of fear. john called on us to be bigger than that. he called on us to be better than that. today is only one day in all the days that will ever be but what

this is an old political cartoon with teddy roosevelt in the back and there are corrupt senators. notice in the corner, there is a cloud which says popular indignation. that popular indignation was stirred up by the muckraking journalists. there were times when roosevelt loved it because it helps him push his projects, things like the meat inspection act, which was one of the first ones to actually have government inspection of meat and other food to make sure it was not spoiled. when it came to muckrakers targeting his friends in the senate, he was less happy. he came up with the name muckraker. he meant it as a slur against the press. he felt they wallowed in the muck and said if keeping their eyes on the good things be administered and was doing -- administration was doing. as the 21st century advanced, the partisan and muckraking press gave way to objective journalism. the origin of the practice of objectivity in journalism traces to the late 19th century, 1896 when adolph oates bought the new york times. to distinguish his newspaper from more popular counterparts, he dedicated

miss goodwin, your most recent book focuses on president lincoln, teddy roosevelt, fdr, and lyndon johnson. why did you pick those four? >> those were four i felt closest too. i spent the most time studying and interestingly each one of those four lived in a very turbulent time, in a time of crisis, which often makes leadership more necessary, more possible. when i chose the title, leadership in turbulent times, i didn't expect it to be as it was today. in a certain sense i hope it can give us reassurance. times we think we're living in the worst of times. yet if you look back at what faced lincoln when he first came into office. a civil war with 600,000 people who were going to die just on the horizon, if he had ever known out difficult it would be to get through those first months, he would thought he could not have lived through it. theodore roosevelt comes in the industrial revolution, there was fear of revolution, between labor and management would break out. fdr at the height of the depression. lbj with the assassination of jfk. they were fitted for their times. especially lbj for ci

obviously teddy roosevelt wasn't thinking in a very gender neutral way.ou have to put yourself in a position that sometimes you're going to have a fight, and you're going to fight with folks who night dmight disagree with you have a chance of changing their mind. one, i think the ad supported internet is something that's going to last for a long time. we're not going to get away from the model of using data about people to target ads, and therefore supporting these platforms. partially because the truth is that a small number of consumers, mostly in north america and western europe, subsidize the existence of these technologies for everybody else in the world. and finding some kind of way to build products that require millions of servers and billions and billions of dollars in hardware and lots of professionals to run it, finding a way to support that, then that service can be available freely across the world, that's a super hard problem. so if these products are going to exist, you're always going to have these privacy trade-offs. i personally thought

and it really shows what a complex man teddy roosevelt was, and it's very eye-opening because most of us didn't know this, you know, this complex side to him. we knew that, you know, we think of him as, you know, charging up san juan hill or being known as someone who was an environmentalist or gave us the square deal and was very popular and expanded our, you know, our touch not only domestically, but internationally, in the kick january and the -- caribbean and the far east. and he was well thought of enough that he got his face on mount rush more. he is probably one of our greatest presidents, but his life was certainly not simple at all. so anyway, i'd like to welcome dade and just start off by asking how did you decide on this topic? >> trial and error. you trillion a lot -- you drill a lot of dry wells in trying to come up with a topic. and for a while i was thinking about doing a dual study of roosevelt and wilson because they're at such loggerheads at this point in history. and eventually i kind of dropped that because a mentor of mine in publishing, fellow named john thorne w

the youngest was teddy roosevelt, but he got there by mckinley's assassination. kennedy was untested among other voters besides catholics. kennedy decided to advance a new nominating system. he would run in all the primaries where the polls showed he could win. he entered and won 10 primaries. nobody had ever done anything like that before. he did not enter another six primaries because local conditions in those states showed he couldn't win. no candidate has ever entered so many primaries, at least in part because of the enormous amount of money it took to organize campaigns and a large number of states. money was needed to set up campaign organizations to recruit volunteers and to use television to sell the candidates to voters, and kennedy did all three. fortunately for kennedy, his father, joe kennedy, was at the time one of the 20 wealthiest americans, worth an estimated $200 million in the late 1950's. i support that's like -- suppose that's like $4 billion today, but it's not like $100 billion that jeff bezos has today. the rich have gotten richer. joe ken

i will put in ronald reagan, abraham lincoln, harry truman, teddy roosevelt.i will tell you what they thought of him. they knew about his battles with indians. the city in times of trouble when i'm looking for leadership, i want jackson. so did lincoln. how do i stop the division of our country? how did fdr get his country ready for war? he looked at - - and insisted on walking up the steps that he diwanted to feel jackson. if these are great americans and i think weall agree they are great americans, they saw something great in jackson and uthat's what i bring out in th paperback . >> - - go ahead with your question for brian kilmeade. >> i just want to say i loved the book. do you talk much about - - in your book? >> yes. one of the key moment is actually, i talk about the best it was andrew jackson. as you know, into the he knew the area. they were like mobsters. [indiscernible] we will expunge all of your crime. he said i'll get back to you. he met with the governor and that i want to fight with the americans. at first jackson said, i don't feel abandoned.

teddy roosevelt tried to make this a national park and he could not persuade congress to make it a national park. it was given certain protections, but still a lower level of protection than what he wanted. he was dead for a few months before grand canyon became a national park in 1919. he always regrettable he did not make it a national park. partlyly became a park because the railroad was bringing in tourists and arizona thisessman were noticing is worth more than the lions in the canyon. so why are we opposing making this as a national park? picked up and people saw the natural value. a lot of powerbrokers just didn't seem to see that. it took a long time for them to see that. last year we got 6 million andtors of the canyon around 2000 at the 5 million level up and down and lately national park that then up in visitation. a lot of them do not have the capacity to absorb that. a lot of them are foreigners and they come here with the main goal of seeing yosemite, yellowstone, possibly death valley. they might see san francisco or las vegas along the way. they go home loving the parks and