and teddy roosevelt had essentially handpicked him as his successor. taft wasn't his vice president, but he was the person who roosevelt believed could carry on his legacy. and i think that roosevelt genuinely believed that when he left office in 1909, but because of, you know, again, that the less forceful personality that taft had, because taft fired gifford pancho, who had been somebody who roosevelt was pretty close with in the federal government. and because roosevelt didn't like not having power, the combination of all of those things led him to tell friends that he thought that taft was weak, that he was well-meaning, but he wasn't actually a strong leader. and that continuing to sour on taft, that would happen over the next few years. you know, he tries to do a little bit of public outreach to make it look like it's not so big of a rift. but he really does see taft as in many ways a failure as a successor. what was the tipping point? what was the moment that that roosevelt decided he was going to get back in the ring? so i think at the tipping p

and teddy roosevelt had essentially handpicked him as his successor. taft wasn't his vice president, but he was the person who roosevelt believed could carry on his legacy. and i think that roosevelt genuinely believed that when he left office in 1909, but because of, you know, again, that the less forceful personality that taft had, because taft fired gifford pancho, who had been somebody who roosevelt was pretty close with in the federal government. and because roosevelt didn't like not having power, the combination of all of those things led him to tell friends that he thought that taft was weak, that he was well-meaning, but he wasn't actually a strong leader. and that continuing to sour on taft, that would happen over the next few years. you know, he tries to do a little bit of public outreach to make it look like it's not so big of a rift. but he really does see taft as in many ways a failure as a successor. what was the tipping point? what was the moment that that roosevelt decided he was going to get back in the ring? so i think at the tipping p

teddy roosevelt hand-picked him as his successor. taft was not his vice president but he was the person roosevelt believed could carry on his legacy. i think that roosevelt genuinely believed that, when he left office in 1909. because of, the less forceful personality taft had, because taft fired gifford pinchot, someone roosevelt was close with in the federal government and because roosevelt did not like having power. the combination of all sour on taft, that would happen over the next few years. you know, he tries to do a little bit of public outreach to make it look like it's not so big of a rift. but he really does see taft as in many ways a failure as a successor. what was the tipping point? what was the moment that that roosevelt decided he was going to get back in the ring? so i think at the tipping point for his relationship with taft, who was this issue with pancho? but i think has his is tipping point for getting back into the race was coming back to the united states. getting that hero's welcome. and then he went out on a s

would teddy roosevelt have become president and had been such an influential figure in this history without this infrastructure women around him? >> no. i think theodore roosevelt was incredibly impulsive. he followed his instincts to his peril and he needed the women in his life, as we discussed, to soothe that nature, to play different roles that different points in his n political trajectory. edith said, whenever i go against her judgment, i regret it. let's take a look at examples of that. in 1904, when he wins the election in his own right for the presidency, he says he will not run for re-election in 1908. he makes himself a lame duck and edith knows, you have just made the worst political mistake of your life. in 1912, when he decides to run again, it is edith who comes to him and says, put it out of your mind, theodore. he will never be president of the united states again. also, she was the only one who could say that to him. she was right. he was never president. it was a valiant run and it is interesting in history. she knew that the political forces would not allow it. i just do

teddy roosevelt passed away. taft, went to visit his gravestone. it was raining. a very dramatic moment this really was the stuff of movies, their relationship. he hung his head, and he had to surrender to roosevelt. it is documented. it is a true civility moment. we didn't always agree. we have this pretentious relationship. we used almost everything that we could against one another. at the end of the day, it allowed taft to serve as president. even if it didn't always end in the best manner. >> i just want to support what you said about him being a great president. i have a political science degree. as you said, william howard taft was his favorite president. especially about taft today, especially for what he believed and did. we are so closely aligned. he did not back away from his principles. he had that weird space. roosevelt had these progressions. i don't know what we considered a true conservative. we would consider them for less involvement, less involvement. he really was that. he really believe that. he governed accordingly. he's also a public servant.

there's plenty of material there. >> should this change how we think about or assess or view teddy roosevelt>> absolutely. i mean, it upended the way i think about theodore roosevelt. growing up in north dakota i was told of the myth of the self-made man. i would go out to the badlands to theodore roosevelt national park and there is something mystical in that place. it is a place that i like to say when you are in the east, you feel the presence of theodore roosevelt's ghost. when you're at sagamore hill or in his home. when you are in the west, you really feel the presence of theodore roosevelt's spirits. this is a place where he came to recover after abject loss and true depression, even though many family members never used that word. that is a great story, right? it is romantic and it has got a sweeping narrative arc and it is almost irresistible to see this individual is the product of his own will, that he just found his way through any challenge and it is certainly true to a certain extent but he had help. the thing that i found when i'm talking about the loves of theodore roosevelt

i think there's something to be said the fact he was consulting with teddy roosevelt during the first election and then dropped off. it says to me he had his own plans. he sort of knew that roosevelt was using him or thought roosevelt would be using him as a puppet but they had no intention of following through with things that didn't align with his belief system and what he thought was best for the country. the second election, it is so funny, because very rarely within a president's reelection do not hear about someone's opponent from another party. and i think all the press coverage during the second election with taft was rooted basically between this all out but said war that i think people don't realize happened back then, between he and tr. tr went and started his own party. things we think are little crazy, they would never happen. it did happen. it happened and then. but also what's interesting is because the two men were best friends, roosevelt and taft, there was an opposition research needed. they use all the information they knew about each other already. against one anot

the fact that he was consulting with teddy roosevelt constantly during that first election and then he sort of dropped off, says to me that he had his own plans. he sort of knew that roosevelt was using him or thought that roosevelt would be using him as a puppet, but that he had no intention of really following through with things that didn't align with his own belief system of what he thought was best for this country. the second election was it's so funny because very rarely within a president's reelection and you not hear about someone's opponent from another party. and i think that all of the press coverage during that second election with taft, it really was rooted basically between this all out bloodshed, war that i think people don't realize happened back then, between he and tr, like tr went off and started his own party. things that now that we think are a little like crazy, but are when they happen today we're like that would never happen. it did happen. it happened. then. but i also think what's really interesting is because the two men were best friends, roosevelt and taft

now you had a you had a long interest in teddy roosevelt. we'll talk about that in a minute. but at what point did you have this insight that it is important to look at the women who surrounded roosevelt? well, thank you, susan, being here tonight. and thank you to all of you being here at politics and prose. it's a great pleasure to speak with you about the loves of theodore roosevelt. you know, i as you mentioned grew up in north dakota and you grow up in north dakota, you do suffer a surfeit, heroes. you've got peggy lee, lawrence welk, roger maris. you know, maybe phil jackson for contemporary dakotans. and then theodore roosevelt, i guess i could say i chose roosevelt, but really, he chose me. and i wanted to write initially about theodore roosevelt's formative time in the these two years as a rancher and a cowboy where he recovered in nature from the depression he suffered the loss of of his wife and mother. and i knew, of course, of bambi and, connie mitty, alice and edith. but they'd never been the central character of any book. they're always just in the background or

and then on to teddy roosevelt. obviously, the square deal legislation breaking up monopoly was franklin roosevelt saving the world from fascism and nazis lbj civil rights, voting rights. why do you think it is that generally speaking most of our presidents become more revered and their legacies more admired as the years go by. it's a really good question. i mean, i think that what people feel at the moment when their president is all the tensions and the anger is at what didn't happen or what happened. they didn't agree with. and then as time goes by, i think a greater sense of the context, you know, well, two things happened today. today somehow we have an opposite view of what you're saying, which is that we look back at these leaders and if they're not up to what we wish they were at the time where we're denigrating them, if they don't the same same values as if lincoln, for example, thought that shouldn't intermarry with whites, that they shouldn't be on juries. and you look at that and you wish that weren't tr

stuart: up until teddy roosevelt the president's office was on the same floor where the president livedmrs. roosevelt as the president to find elsewhere for an office, so we built an building that had been on the space of greenhouses, and that is what we call the west wing today. the president's office was not oval in that space. it did not become oval until president taft and it was moved into the corner under franklin delano roosevelt. host: the desk you were standing in front of as a replica of the resolute desk. stuart: there was a british commercial vessel, a sailing vessel that was marooned in the ice off the pacific northwest. american commercial sailors found it. when the weather allowed them to take it back to the east coast, they did where they overhauled it, it returned to england, and eventually when it was decommissioned as a working vessel, queen victoria took timbers from that ship, at this desk made and gave it as a gift to rutherford b hays, president of the united states. this desk is one of several presidents can choose from as their working desk. most do, not all do.

teddy roosevelt had a square deal for the rich and the poor, the capitalist and the laborer. and they they had a rational reforms and that the country got through that when roosevelt in in 1933 somebody said to him you know if your new deal program works you will be one of the great presidents. it fails. you'll be one of the worst. he said no, i'll be the last. democracy was at risk then, and somehow we mobilize and we were able to get the factories going eventually people were put to work and then the mobilization for the war ended. the depression. then world war two comes and as we saw in all this, in the commemoration of d-day, things were very at risk in that war. and had hitler won, civilization and democracy would have been. so one of the last things that -- wrote, in fact, was day he came to wasn't really one of the last things, but the he came down singing we shall overcome. no, i'm not singing, we shall overcome singing. what a beautiful morning. oh, what a beautiful morning. i get my centuries mixed up. i get i saw half the times i'm talking 1800 rather than 1900. bu

. >> teddy roosevelt oh, wow, teddy roosevelt is chatted on miley cyrus is on, which is a crazy coincidence because on teddy roosevelt's arm he has touted, i got my hands up they're playing my thought they know i'm going to be okay. yeah, that applies fly away. yeah. yeah. yeah yeah. yeah. party in the usa that's right. i know that song that was odd one out. >> it will be back after the break black people had an explosive reverberation after kanye said it, this was a lot of people's faces because it felt like he said the quiet part out loud. that moment all laid the groundwork for black lives matter for better or worse, a lot of people came away from that debut my turn to talk. almost say what i tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture next sunday at nine on cnn you tax i'm not rich as hell. i'm the one that really needs the break, not the people that are already rich and have the money, the 1% don't serve anybody but themselves. so for them to get a tax break? no, that's not cool. kamala harris will make billionaires pay their fair share and she's gonna cut taxes for working people

lincoln teddy roosevelt. >> oh, wow, teddy roosevelt is chatted on miley cyrus is on which is a crazy coincidence because on teddy roosevelt's arm, he has tended. >> i got my hands up. they're playing myself they know i'm going to be okay. yeah butterflies fly away. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. >> party in the usa that's right, boris. >> i know that song that was odd one out. >> we'll be back after the break >> is ever done this for a living james was famous for winning races, teams believes they've changed widths it's the economy stupid i apologize to know what that man is it to fisted catcher i am saying publicly what people say and turns out i have enough money. i can just shut up carbon winning is everything stupid? >> next, on cnn i didn't have this pin my life, trying to find my carlin mine phone mean at an early age he was just a matter of how good i could get and how farro what would go ram or callings to build trucks. >> so when you find your car nothing can stop you from answering right now, during ram power days get $4,000 cash allowance on the purchase of most 2025 ram 1,500 tr

lincoln teddy roosevelt oh, wow, teddy roosevelt is chatted on miley cyrus is on which is a crazy coincidenceause on teddy roosevelt's arm, he has tended. >> i got my hands up. they're playing they they know i'm going to be okay. yeah that applies fly away. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. >> party in the usa. that's right, boris. i know that song that was odd one out. >> it will be back after the break for our new class pet. >> we have a special guest, cnn's harry enten well folks, we got a race for the ages here with nibbles, the hamster jumping out to a ten point advantage over jaws, the goldfish, big brand recognition, but it isn't translating in a boats. >> so what the heck is going on in here swim can be done. >> pilk and so sorry, it's a decent assessment goodrx and even if you have insurance amount of medicare, i checked good rx because it can be my coping like that even if you haven't sure it's good or x cannot be safe another good reason to check good rx. looking for a way to stretch the dollar with ensure if phi, you can cut your car insurance bill in half, scroll through, doesn't hav

. >> we sure do love a strong man and from teddy roosevelt, all the way up to our reality tv president nowhere produces more of them than the empire state congress's approval rating hovering somewhere around sewer rants, we want to vote for the politician who can finally just get things done. that was elliot spitzer to a tee but when new yorkers sent the sheriff of wall street to the governor's mansion we all learned the hard way that white nights can have dark secrets spitzer was caught breaking his own sex work laws a level of hypocrisy we could never forget eliot spitzer blazed a trail through new york that had him in spitting distance of the white house right up until the moment he set himself on fire. >> this will sound like the setup for a bad joke, but bear with me do you see the new york, you dream of begins tonight. so there's this honest politician named eliot spitzer, a white knight new york official with a reputation so pristine they called him mr. clean he rose up the ranks from attorney general to governor by taking down the mafia, as well as wall street banks these are p

abrahamling, teddy roosevelt, and more. doris goodwin with us now.se guys, their lives growing up? >> because what i wanted young people to see is when they look at leaders before they become icons, before they become monuments, they'll be young boys in this case, hopefully some day young girls, and learn how to become leaders. it's stories that i wanted to tell them. they say history is boring. it's the least boring thing if you understand stories around people. 8-10 of people in the middle class can't pass a proficiency test in history. i've loved history since i was 6 years old. i recorded the brooklyn dodgers game, and i'm watching tonight. this is my brooklyn dodgers, before they abandoned me, and i became a red sox fan, but now it's the old dodgers back again. the important thing is -- >> neil: go ahead. >> i was going to say they look back at history, at the civil war, they look at the great depression, the early days of world war ii, they'll see that we came through those times with great strength. they need to remember that, as we're in a gr

[applause] >> greg: so you are saying teddy roosevelt was a nazi. very interesting, rod it., i did not see that coming either. kat, if you are winning do you call people nazis? >> that is what they fall back on. you know who would hate this? >> greg: who? >> hitler. because hitler did a lot of obviously truly horrific horrific horrific monsters [bleep] and now it is like to be compared to him you don't really have to try that hard, you know? like to think about about how the nazis must feel. again, also horrific horrific. you have to really devote your life to hatred just a rational, unbridled just a coldhearted hatred it. now you get to get called a nazi for having a venue in common. >> greg: you know what it is? it is stolen nazi valour. [applause] >> would you ever have thought prior to i don't know, circa 2015 that you would ever be bored? hearing somebody call someone else a nazi? or hitler? to be like old this again? it has become like okay yawn because it has become a decade now of this thing over and over again. in a certain time people will tune it out. i feel like

guest: he won almost 19% of the votes, the highest share since teddy roosevelt. it allowed bill clinton position himself in the middle position. he was for nafta but was going to work out separate side agreements protecting labor and environmental regulation. the critics, the whole point of nafta was to exploit cheap labor and get away from those environmental controls. i think perot, he was widely seen or sometimes mocked by both parties. again, there was an emphasis on elite knowledge. gore had a debate with ross perot on cnn, on the larry king show as part of the selling of nafta. gore trotted out every nobel prize person supported it. and the expertise that was supporting it. whereas perot was a plain folk person who represented the opposition to that elite sort of consensus. i think there was a very important speech in the house over the debate. david as i mentioned earlier, he really crystallized the rejection of this elite expertise. and to a lot of people, it was plain as day. and a lot of their fears proved to be correct impressions. and at the time, per

peter: teddy roosevelt once at the greatest gift of life is the opportunity to do work worth doing.hink that the point is that there are many professions where you can't get around the effort part of it. but wet i think our firm requires or owes our people who are putting in that effort is three things. the first is, the opportunity, i talked about practicing at the top of your license, to run as far and as fast as you can. one of the exciting things of being in government at a relatively young age is you have a sense that i'm this age and i'm doing that. to create that same sense of excitement for people entering financial services i think is a characteristic of people of lazard and very important. that's part one. part two is, even if you are working hard, you need to have some degree of agency and the ability to do, if something else is important in your life, to take time off, to go do that. one of the reasons why here in new york we still have three days a week in the office in two remote because it eases those trade-offs for many people. and then, the third important part of t

so you're so you're saying teddy roosevelt was a nazi very interesting. rod. wow.now i didn't see that coming either. cat, if you're winning, do you call people nazis? i mean, yeah, it's what they fall back on. you know who's got to really hate this? hitler. yeah. thank you. because hitler did a lot of obviously just truly horrific. horrific, horrific, monstrous. and now it's like to be compared to him. you don't really have to try that hard. you know, like, think of how the nazis must feel. yes. again also horrific. horrific. you got to really devote your life to hatred. just irrational, unbridled, just cold hearted hatred. now you get to get called a nazi for having a venue in common. yes. it's not right. you know what it is? it's stolen nazi valor. i mean, just think, would you ever have thought. would you ever have thought prior to. i don't know what circa 2015, that you would ever be bored by hearing someone call someone else a nazi? yeah. or hitler to be like, oh, get this again? yeah. it's because it's become like, okay, yawn. because it's been it's been alm

guest: he won almost 19% of the votes, the highest share since teddy roosevelt.

then i would have moved on to other republicans that i revere like teddy roosevelt and dwight eisenhower. so no i look, it's sort of esoteric or irrelevant historical kicking around what could have been, might have been, should have been, but no. >> i mean, maybe maybe somebody maybe i like history a lot, but i mean, i know it's maybe it's an esoteric, but he is running to be president united states. >> and if the model is, if there's a if there are confederate states that have slavery, which are seceding from the union, that should have been negotiated and settled yeah, if it was just a guy in a bar, are having this argument, it wouldn't matter but wanting to be the president noted states, i mean, i don't know, maybe maybe maybe he thinks, maybe he thinks that politicians could have negotiated an end to slavery without the bloodshed. i mean, that would be a charitable look at this, right? maybe they could have settled it and gotten the south to agree to go. but again, look, we're sitting here kicking around things that have happened so long ago and that have long has since been settled

with that in mind, when he became president, teddy roosevelt decided to create a commission from a commission, to study and offer recommendations of what is going on in rural, mostly agricultural areas, is what they focused on. they issued a report. it is filled with descriptions of what is happening in rural america, but what is implicit underneath this is that rural america is not keeping up with urban america. so here are a variety of recommendations so that country life will be just as good and rewarding as city life is. what we can deduce from that is that there was already a perception in the early 20th century that somehow urban life was accelerating faster, rural life was struggling to catch up. so it is a nice little moment in this ongoing discussion of somehow rural america being left behind. peter: in some supporting evidence you use in the 1930's it was reported that over to -- 2200 iowa towns had been found abandoned and there was a 50% drop in the number of farms between 1950 and 1970. steven: yes. again, when you scratch the surface of this, you discover there are measurable in

you have been in a true teddy roosevelt arena situation. ever think when you were at visa, j.p. morgan, that people would say this man is doing the wrong thing? >> i understand why people are critical of wells fargo. my mission in coming here was to change the dialogue. the easiest way is not for me to give a speech but to actually show the results. that's what i think we are doing. i feel great about the progress we've made and i have great confidence that we can put this behind us. >> you think you can preserve the greatness of this historic institution at the same time layoff the people you have to do and make things compliance friendly and simple? these are all things that you like? >> absolutely. >> i don't know. what time do you wake up? what time do you go to bed? this is not the usual challenge for a banker. >> my job is not the artist in the world. when you ook at what other people do in this company, they have hard jobs. you talk about me a lot and i appreciate that but i have a great management team, 17 people on the operating co

with that in mind, when he became president, teddy roosevelt decided to create this commission, presidentialommission, to study and offer recommendations for what's going on in mostly farm areas, mostly agricultural areas, that's what they focused on, and they issued this report. the report is filled with descriptions of what's happening in rural america, but what is complacent is america isn't keeping up with rural america. here are a variety of recommendations so country life will be just as good and rewarding as city life is. what we can deduce from that is there was already perception in the early 20th century, that somehow urban life was accelerating, rural america was struggling to catch up. that's a nice moment in this discussion of rural america being left behind. >> some of the supporting evidence you use in the 1930s it was reported over 2200 iowa towns had been found abandoned, it was a 50% drop in farms in the number of farms between 1950-1970. >> yeah, again when you start to scratch the surface of all this what you discover is there are these measurable indices of decline and c

invited to join and is one of the founding members of the boone and crockett club, which is teddy roosevelt's very elitist society of men who hunt big game . their motive conservation is, essentially, we need to conserve the big game so we can keep shooting it and he basically abandons the audubon movement at almost the same time he's getting involved with the boone and crockett club, which feels symbolic because they were, the boone and crockett club was so incredibly plugged in. roosevelt's political career was a little start at that point but profoundly influential. all these really influential men. big new york figures there. and they, basically, succeed in creating legislation that privileges outside of hunters over -- on the on hand bad actors harvesting game for great scale and producing numbers. but also the native american tribes that were hunting for sustenance, were in many cases, iced out because of some of the activism of the boone and crockett. and that sort of does create the same ethos of hunting you see today. we can serve the animals to shoot them. you know? >> do we have an

fundamentally misunderstand history as president trump says all the time will -- william mckinley and teddy rooseveltlt the american industrial powerhouse that we have today using tariffs to ensure that american workers got a fair deal. and foreign competitors were unable to undercut the wages of our workers. we have to sort of backup and ask yourselves what is a tariff because people accused of being a something it's not. think about if you are a foreign competitor working in china, using literal chinese labor at three dollars a day in the american middle class workers never going to be able to compete on cost alone. we can compete on quality with those foreign labourers in china. i've used labor in china what a tariff says it is you're going to pay a fat penalty before bringing those products back into the united states. as really the only way to ensure america has a viable industrial base. >> why not do to a more precise and surgical way then what we've been hearing from the campaign trail? does present trump lantsman that is more targeted or is it as broad as we have been led to believe by his ow

invited to join and he has one of the founding members of the boone and crockett club, which is teddy roosevelt's sort of very elitist society of men who hunt big game, and their mode of conservation is essentially we need to conserve the big game so we can keep shooting it, and he basically abandoned the audubon movement at the same time he is getting involved in the boone and crockett club, which feels sort of symbolic because they were -- you know, the boone and crockett club is so incredibly plugged in. roosevelt's political career was a little stalled at that time but it was profoundly influential. all these really influential men. all these big figures were there. and they basically succeed in creating legislation that privileges outside hunters over, on the one hand, some sort of bad actors that are harvesting game for, you know, at great scale and really reducing numbers. but also the native american tribes that were hunting for subsidence were in many cases iced out because of some of the activism of boone and crockett. and that does create some of the same ethos of hunting that you see

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why rent so or say to people you know think of now i'm going to quote a republican president teddy roosevelt and and i may quote another president whose republican abraham lincoln. so this is bipartisan, right? so he wrote in the arena speeches is a great speech of american democracy and participation. when you're in the arena, you're no a spectator. you have to act. you have to act. so i tell people when they're running, this is not for the faint of heart. when you're in the arena, you have to be ready to take a punch. you have to be ready. throw a punch for the children children. just, said when they asked me. three. most important, our children. our children are, children, their health, their education and the economic security of families. a safe environment, free from gun violence in which they can thrive. a nation at peace in the world that they can reach their aspiration. and so it's all about the child for me and and again, you have to know your why. so when women especially i mean men too but mostly women ask me what would you have? i say your why know your power. you're the only pe