to take it that far but let me just lay this out this was first laid out actually by teddy roosevelt the republican president back in nineteen twelve this is a this is a tape that was recorded on a wax disk by thomas edison himself this is teddy roosevelt. for. market. where you can carry. around a. great tradition great recession. the rich. are probably very very rich. in other words just in summary what teddy roosevelt proposed in one thousand twell was that a minimum wage a living wage should be enough to live on and off to raise your kids enough to put them through school and have to have a vacation and enough to have retirement we used to call that the united states the middle class and the debate on the viability of social security is another issue that has many of you talking over the past few weeks i've said several times that despite what republicans want you to think social security is not bankrupt it's not either bankrupting us as a nation nor is it itself bankrupt but some of you are still not convinced but here you have senator sanders county saying that so six. serious flush and there

incidentally the republican party has the good history teddy roosevelt, richard nixon, we can talk about climate change in the knowledge it is happening but also the inexact science to know the cover of "newsweek" 1975 showing the global increase over to a knowledge and talk about it in a reasonable way without embracing the left solutions to levy enormous tax burdens for energy consumption and frankly only reduce carbon emissions by a minimal amount without touching indiana and china. good deal with conservative environmentalism is to put forth the agenda that says the eight government has an important role to protect the environment but could not and should not be trusted to deliver low carbon future. this has to come from individuals working together driven by the realities of the marketplace. i talked about a couple of other issues which i am happy to talk about a new republican feminism nine interfirst -- wonderful new crop of women leaders at that the national scene has not necessarily taken no. we have seen sarah palin and michelle bachmann but three new governors thanks to 2101 i

he lost the election but took over the republican party and the end of the dispute that really driven the party since teddy roosevelt split with william howard taft in the912 election. the conservatives took over the party and without goldwater there would not have been a reagan presidency in my judgment. in that sense ihink the tea party has the same kind of potential political confundity that they can change the way we talk about our politics. they have said let's go back and read the documents, let's go back and understand the madisonian architecture and the project of limited government. and let's understand that what got us into this problem was a comprehensive disregard of any sense of limits on the part of what government can do and how much it should claim of the national wealth. >> charlie: there is a sense of limits before the tea party came along. there were even limits within what was wanted in the stimulus program. you have larry summers and us saying we believe that the stimulus progm would have been much better and much more effective which it was $1.3 trillion rather than 800. there was a limitation

the sherman antitrust act teddy roosevelt one further with the inheritance tax and president taft after roosevelt busted up standard oil into twenty six companies so we don't really have to say the republicans built america the democrat in just the promise is flawed you're right people with great well they're hanging on to it as much as they can but. the the beginning to the next coming comes from our message board over thom hartmann dot com thanks to the tea party in the army of young people who support ron paul and the resurgence of iran's philosophy the greed is the highest good libertarianism is now back in the mainstream political debate in america and dominic on our message board had this important question to pose to libertarians a simple question for libertarians who wrote it a libertarian model of governments governance is so great if not perfect why have we never seen a prosperous answer example of this in the history of humanity well really simple it has never worked anywhere it's been tried i mean it was basically libertarianism is a lord of the flies world it's a dog eat dog world there's this fantasy this is libertarian group now and one of the. founders of one of the big web

it's not only the republican party with a pretty good history with environmentalism. teddy rooseveltrichard nixon. i think that we can talk about climate change, and we can acknowledge that climate change is happening, but it's also an inexact science. we know the cover of "newsweek" in 19 # 75 showed the globe was going to freeze over. we can acknowledge and talk about it in a reasonable way without embracing the left's solutions which would levy enormous tax burdens on middle class for energy consumption, and frankly, it would only reduce the carbon emissions in the united states by a minimal amount over the next 100 years without touching india and china, so i think the deal with conservative environmentalism is to put forth an agenda that says the government has an important role in protecting the environment, but it cannot and should not be trusted to deliver a low-carbon energy independent future. this has to come from individuals working together and driven by the realities of the marketplace. i talk about a couple other issues in the book which i'm happy to do more in q&a. i