lauren duke became widely known only a few years ago following a scorching op bedri written for teen vogue and titled donald trump is gaslighting america well the piece became a viral sensation and lauren was suddenly and in demand speaker and guest on t.v. and radio well she is back in the public eye with a new book and the assertion that donald trump 2016 when shook young people out of a coma and reminded that voting bloc that government by and for the people requires their input so will younger voters participate in the 2020 election process and who or what will motivate them to do so so let's talk about this with journalist and feminist advocate lauren duca who joins me right here from new york city she's the author of the newly released book how to start a revolution young people and the future of politics ron brownstein thanks for having me great so your book is about starting a revolution why do you think we need that right now. i think that for too long we've understood democracy as a thing that we have and not. thing that we do there is such extensive nation among young people aft

lauren duke became widely known only a few years ago following a scorching bedroom written for teen vogue and titled donald trump is gaslighting america well the piece became a viral sensation and lauren was suddenly and in demand speaker and guest on t.v. and radio well she's back in the public eye with a new book and the assertion that donald trump 2016 when shook young people out of a coma and reminded that voting block that government by and for the people requires their input so will younger voters participate in the 2020 election process and who or what will motivate them to do so so let's talk about this with journalist and feminist advocate lauren duca who joins me right here from new york city she's the author of the newly released book how to start a revolution young people and the future of politics where. things are having me great so your book is about starting a revolution why do you think we need that right now. i think that for too long we've understood democracy as a thing that we have and not a thing that we do there is such extensive alya nation among young people after

do there is such extensive nation among young people after that article took off gaslighting for teen vogue there was a conversation about the trumpet ministrations decision from a nation but also young people do they care about politics do young women care about politics and i sort of started having a lot of conversations about that question which does not tell the full story about who we are often young people's apathy is stated as if it's a natural extension of low voter turnout statistics low voter turnout statistics are real and a problem but it's not that we don't care it's that we've been pushed out of the conversation and made to feel as if we're not qualified and don't have permission and i think what's shifting not only in reaction to but a number of major cultural shifting. actors like black lives matter the me too movement the gun reform protest led by the parklane students all of these things are contributing overall to a shift in agency and self-determination in which young people are deciding that we're no longer willing to wait our turn until we're deemed qualified to take p

extensive nation among young people after that article took off gaslighting for teen vogue there was a conversation about the trumpet ministrations dissin from a nation but also young people do they care about politics do young women care about politics and i sort of started having a lot of conversations about that question which does not tell the full story about who we are often young people's apathy is stated as if it's a natural extension of low voter turnout statistics low voter turnout statistics are real and a problem but it's not that we don't care it's that we've been pushed out of the conversation and made to feel as if we're not qualified and don't have permission and i think what's shifting not only in reaction to trump but a number of major cultural shifting factors like black lives matter the me too movement the gun reform protest led by the parklane students all of these things are contributing overall to a shift in agency and self-determination in which young people are deciding that we're no longer willing to wait our turn until we're deemed qualified to take part in

same thing let me ask you this lauren donald trump won 37 percent of the youth vote and your big teen vogue op ed was about donald trump gaslighting america. how do you explain his appeal to this fairly large chunk of young voters well you know i not sure that i understand donald trump's appeal to anyone to be quite frank with you. i guess though i would emphasize that the purpose of my book and the way that i've sought to outline a paradigm of citizenship is not geared towards my belief system so i but i am a queer radical feminist but i believe that it's in the public interest to build towards public power and equality and so as a journalist that's what i'm fighting for public power and equality and i think that that looks like as many voices as possible in the political conversation and i want young people who disagree with me i want all people regardless of their beliefs i have very specific beliefs and and i need to be a we all need to be able to have difficult conversations with people who we disagree and i think we're getting so siloed into our bubbles and so it's so easy to cut ours