as i said, tefra was created in the senate, passed in the senate entirely by republicans. there were no democrats that chose to join in that particular bill. there were others that were much for bipartisan -- much more bipartisian. -- bipartisan. i think it might be the tradition of long friendships. members served a long time. and they worked together across party lines so that, even where there was party-line votes, they still could be assembled with one another. >> i think we are all struggling to understand why things have become so bitterly partisan. much more obviously than they were in the period of time we served in the senate. that is not to suggest that there were not battles that occurred, because there were, quite pitched at times. clearly, there were partisan -- senator dole could be very partisan. but he also knew when to reach across the aisle. the think there was a sense of the importance of legislating to a conclusion. i can remember senator dole on more than one occasion commenting that he rarely thought it was a win it to lose. simply putting think -- si

it's special to talk about senator tefra and his accomplishments as an individual. i would like to begin by asking each of you to tell how you came about working per for bob dole in the various roles you have in his office. let's start with you. >> i came to work for senator dole in '79 when the senator goes to the position of ranking member of the senate finance committee replacing paul curtis and dole as elevated and i think the senator wanted to give some young warriors to help staff that committee and through elizabeth elizabeth called one of her classmates at cal for ten and birling and the bald and myself worked at covington and birling and i think that bob recommended us and came over as the republican staff director and i came over as the deputy director. i think bob was particularly a litigator was interested in having somebody there who understood the tax law so that is one of the areas that i practice in. >> what else did you go on to be so? kind of walk us through also chief of staff, right? >> i was a deputy staff character of finance then i became the

it should have been called tefra so that we could have tea for two. >> tefra was a remarkable solo performance by bob dole it off deal with exactly the problem that we find insurmountable now, which is dealing with the deficit. although at that time we had a huge deficit. and we had very high interest rates. and in the order of 18% interest rates. and dole and some other members of the finance committee met with paul volcker was the fed chair at the time. and he said if you pass a big package that cuts the deficit by a specified amount, he would -- he would ease off on the interest rates. and so that was the motive that they had. and the members of the finance committee and i believe it the republicans took upon that as a challenge. and we were -- we put together in 1982 and tefra was mainly the tax piece. but there was a spending cut piece. and it was called the three-legged stool, the famous -- i often talked about the three-legged stool. it was tax cuts and spending cuts and incentives. and volcker cut the interest rates. and it had a remarkable payoff for the country by a terrific cost. an

he also came up with the acronym tefra, for which people are still angry at him. our old friend has served senator dole in a number of goals from his graduation from ku in 1986 and 2000. those include intern, senior advisor, and body man. in the last capacity, he handled the logistics. every single one of them both in the senate and during the elections campaigns. as we know from mike's visit here last year, he served as the director of vice presidential operations for the mccain mccain/palin director, a position that has enriched him with stories. please help me welcome sheila burke, roderick dearment, and mike glassner to the institute. >> thanks to all three of you coming tonight. it's a great night to talk about senator dole and his accomplishments and him as a an individual. i'd like to ask each of you how you came about working for bob dole and the various roles that you had in his office. rod? >> well, i came to work in 1979 when the senator rose to the position of ranking member in the senate finance committee replace paul curtis who had retired. dole was

he also came up with the acronym tefra. our last panelist was an intern, a senior adviser in the body man. he handled the senator's logistics. as we know from mike's visit last year, he served as the director of vice presidential campaign, for the mccain-palin campaign. he is a principal in international public-relations firm. please join me in welcoming these panelists to the dole institute. >> thank you to all three of you for coming tonight for this night to talk about senator dole and his accomplishments. i would like to begin by asking each of you to tell how you can about working for bob dole in the various roles you had in his office. rob, let's start with you. >> i came to work for senator dole in 1979 when the senator rose to the position of ranking member and the senate finance committee. he replaced the retired carl curtis perki. the senator wanted to get some young lawyers to help staff that committee. through elizabeth, elizabeth called one of her law school classmates, and bob and i worked at covington and ber