tekin: yeah, great question. there is one case study right now taking place and a liv e debate on crypto twitter about the dissolution of tribe dao. this will form an important case study in our collective thinking on how corporate governments -- corporate governance in these decentralized environments should work. they merged with the peer-to-peer lending market and this was the biggest dao-on-dao merger we have seen the industry of the crypto space. this was a very happy marriage of the time. things started to get sticky in april of this year when certain lenders on the system were hacked and $80 million of winter capital was lost it fast-forward to today. we are dealing with a bearish environment and there is a loss of faith in the specific dao, and the community has voted to dissolve the dao and use the treasury app to reimburse stakeholders. sonali: not all dao's are created equal. some dao's work such that some holders have a bigger say. how, then, do you fight back against the dao, if you will? tekin: yeah