television program that amazon is going to do. it's going to start coming out in the beginning of the year. >> rose: what's that? a magazine show that alex gibney's workshop is doing. it will be terrific. >> rose: alex does documentaries. >> he does. most are short -- >> rose: somehow associated with the "new yorker"? >> absolutely. it's a "new yorker" show. >> rose: okay. so television, radio, the web, apps, all the technological aspects. >> rose: you're just like jane smith. >> i am (laughter) but you have to be alive to all of this, but the key is that the depth, the accuracy, the soul of what you're doing can't be lost. it has to be enhanced. otherwise, it's not worth any of it. >> rose: demanding. yes. >> rose: to make sure that -- it's joyful work. >> rose: you have to make sure that it's truly the "new yorker" in all its manifestations. >> correct, and it changes every short period of time. for example, when the web began, i think it's fair to say not every writer was alive to writing that kind of work -- short work, attached to the moment. yet this weekend, when paris happened, you had brilliant pieces by ben taub, alexander schwartz, ben taub in