. >> well, there was another clinton foundation contributor big time, his name is ian telf o telfer. canadian by birth. he had uranium one, sold by the state department and other departments had to approve of the deal. the russians ended up with one-fifth of the united states' uranium reserves, john, again. this seems to be another one of those crony capitalism deals that worked against the american people. >> well, no doubt it was. let's remember that if the state department hadn't approved the sale to russia, telfer could have sold it to someone who was approved who could have then sold it to russia. i don't think you can keep commodities from getting to where they ultimately are going to end up. what concerns me about this is that both trump and clinton are elevating this fading former -- putin is the subject in a u.s. presidential election, what a waste. >> strange. it is a strange situation. and steve, to john's point, trump does have these connections or people related to trump, paul manafort, his main campaign manager right now for the moment anyway, was working for a puppet i