tella ban? absolutely not.hink those remarks were . tella ban? absolutely not. i. think those remarks were very forward leaning in a way that perhaps the deputy secretary general regrets at this point. you said you think she might regret those comments come at the same time she was discussing the reality on the ground which is the caliban is governing afghanistan. how can the un, us work together to help civilians who are not legitimising the taliban. i would not say they are governing it. the united states and the un have an obligation to talk to all afghans. the taliban is not the legitimate voice of afghanistan and under no circumstances should they be given a un seat for the country of afghanistan until they make an effort to be a legitimate ruling entity. they have made a kind of living for women that is hard to describe and hard for anybody outside afghanistan to understand but women cannot leave their houses, men being kicked out and murdered because they were part of the former security forces. this is

also set off some warning signals forjudges and ministers hear about the concerns that possibly the tellaers the case, and how it was conducted, that witnesses behaved slightly differently. had the lawyers themselves behave differently because of the presence of those cameras in court? that was actually something that sowed a seed in minds of the people developing a policy here, as they started to consider whether or not we ought to go down the route of cameras in court, and it was really what set the framework for what came over the next few years. the framework for what came over the next few veere— next few years. fascinating. what do ou make next few years. fascinating. what do you make of — next few years. fascinating. what do you make of this _ next few years. fascinating. what do you make of this case, _ next few years. fascinating. what do you make of this case, where - next few years. fascinating. what do you make of this case, where we - next few years. fascinating. what do you make of this case, where we are | you make of this case, where we are now, daniel? with because making