i -- tenants. i think you prioritizing the needs for tourist. >> i have a different opinion about that. i feel that granting a continuance will allow us to at least overhear what the project plans are for the tenants and maybe we can enforce them to move ahead with that plan and be sure that tenants are protected and moved into the rooms as quickly as possible. i'm willing to grant the continuance for a month, really, let our inspectors go back to the building and see what has been completed and what has not been and i would like to know what the plans are for the existing tenants, have the new rooms , are they ready? i want to know what those plans are before i decide on whether to uphold the abatement or not? >> likewise. i would like to hear testimony from someone like buildings from electrical who has been out there. seems like they are more witness and maybe they can come. >> i'm more concerned with the timeframe. if we are going to grant a continuance, i would agree with commissioner lee abou

on the left, 21 tenants. 21 tenants, this is 90 percent ready. and the door, and these 21 rooms 90 percent ready. maybe it's done. right now it's different. i want to make sure right now on the one side and that side is easy to fix, i give the plan to the contractor. >> thank you. >> it should be node that mr. shaw lives there and his managers unit is part of the hotel. there is incentive on anyone's part to slowdown the process of this completion. indeed the hope is to get those 80 percent to a hundred percent as soon as possible. they do have to be signed off of course by all the appropriate city people and given the levels of work at these jobs and that will take some time. that's why the 2 months is thrown out as a realistic somewhat conservative effort. if it could be done sooner everyone would benefit. >> the total estimate contract you are hoping to do this project is -- i believe you gave an estimate of how much you actually predict this project to be completed? >> clearly when this application was made for 3-6 months, i think the focus t

and instead of going to a tenants right appeal, he went to a tenants warrior. and what they told him was -- that they could ellis act him, that he should take the buyout. so, it was only a matter of time. by the time i had talked to him, he had already signed the paperwork. his unit isn't recorded. his unit could be condo-ized. last time we were here and all the tic owners came out, my unit is clean. how in the (bleep) do you know that? and i think for all of us who lived here a long time or have family members who live here who are vulnerable, and my dad's building was so old. it's like how long do you have to wait on the edge of your seat to see what happens? what does that possibly mean? i believe you all -- you're trying to make a decision about good housing in san francisco and sometimes the question is about like -- sometimes i wonder if the question really is about tic owners who, when they talk, it sounds like they should have known, but they were conned into believing they could quickly condo-ize their unit after buying them. or is this really about [s

and when -- the tenant. what is currently the case actually before i ask the second question, before i ask my question? >> currently i think there is a bit of ambiguity in the current -- in general, the requirements are what are recorded in title in nsr. shondra might speak to best practice, shondra eagan with our office. >> good afternoon, i'm shondra eagan from the mayor's office of housing. mr. adams is correct. the restrictions are those recorded in the notice of special restrictions. currently the program allows the procedures manual to set out the rules for conversion or the details of t. we have set forth a program that says that the current tenant has a right of first refusal and certain amount of time to leave if they decide not to buy it. we've also -- we had in our office interpreted the conversions that it would sell at the rental level so the lower level. and there's been some debate about that between the developer community and the mayor's office of housing. ~ and after reviewing the actual la

because most tenants never want to touch this lottery process. this was viewed as a compromise from decades ago. and so, allowing this bypass was viewed as kind of a, an alm in some ways to the current owners which i think is actually a step in the right direction, but in the future, i think that we have to be thinking if home ownership is something that we as a city want to support and encourage for the middle and the middle and upper class familis in san francisco, then it has to be affordable, it has to be housing production. we can't pit folks that want to be owners against tenants that can't be the dynamic that we set up. and people have said that this is not about helping one or the other. but we are creating a system where we are pitting those two groups together, when we allow tic as an option for home ownership. and so looking forward to, and i hope this conversation does not end today in terms of the home ownership conversation. because it is clearly not just about tic. but happy to support these amendments and send it out with a positi

i've seen many tenants evicted or bought out. bought out means little because they're unable to find another place to live in the city. so, picture this. i have, for instance, aiee. a mother and former tenant evicted recently from in knob hill, a building owned by a real estate investor. her son has to bus across the city to go to school. during the eviction process he didn't have it easy at school. so, families like her, this means a lot for community, diversity and also for our neighborhoods. the second thing is for another client ms. wong is elderly and cared for by her adult son full time. real estate firm urban green investments has more than once asked the tenants to move out, harassed them and meanwhile ms. wong and her son are still living without heat and most of the windows in her unit are broken. that's in district 8. so, i also [speaker not understood] time lease issue project tenants while living in ti chis do not account for those ready to displace. i urge that you guys, this board of supervisors [speaker not unders

for tenants. property owners can also have their own hardships. right now i'm very happy to be a landlord, and this legislation does not really even affect me, but there is one day i would perhaps want to get out of the business of being a landlord. it's not always the easiest thing. and i just feel that people that own property should have a little bit of say so of what they do with their property. and not have the city of san francisco dictate everything that they can do and not do with property. again, i appreciate the hardships that happen with tenants. i would be the first person to say -- to do anything to alleviate that. but, again, i would like to have a little bit more control of how i use my property. thank you. >> next speaker. >>> supervisors, good afternoon. i'm fernando [speaker not understood] with could ~ council of housing organizations. [speaker not understood] the condo conversion ordinance that was before you. we had a series of recommendationses. and the amendments that are be

second of all, to protect tenants in tic buildings. it is very important to supervisor wiener and i when we introduced this legislation, we [speaker not understood] tenant protections in tic buildings by providing lifetime leases and also providing a pool of money for affordable housing if here in our city. it is one of san francisco's greatest challenges and this legislation will create a large pool of capital for affordable housing projects here in san francisco. ~ legislation that would satisfy these goals and principle i would support. as a former tic owner, i understand the issues involved with these buildings and the toll it takes on middle income families here in our city, and i want to do everything possible to support them. in terms of the amendments to the legislation that are being offered today, i just received them a short while ago. so, i really have not had the opportunity to walk through them in detail. but i did have a chance to speak with the tenant advocates about them last week as well as supervisor yee, and i spoke

and holding accountable that caused a lot of this to happen and the banks from displacing tenants and the owners themselves by curbing the future speculation. >> [ speaking in a foreign language ] . >> good afternoon, my name is marin asorena. >> [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> i work at young displacement and i fully support the amended legislation and i think that supervisor chiu and all of the others who have worked so hard to craft a legislation that is able to take into consideration the needs of the tenants, and the need for tenants to be able to stay in san francisco, and i have been in san francisco for 40 years and i don't want to go anywhere and neither do any of my neighbors. >> [ speaking in a foreign language ] . >> this is a call for housing of the human rights. >> [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> and i think that all of those that are against speculation especially speculation on the backs of our working of the workers that move san francisco, and make and our san francisco back bone. >> [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> we are not the enemies of the peop

if you're a tenant, renter, please raise your hand. so, today as you can see, we are not trying to displace anybody. we are representing many of the people from the low-income, many of them seniors and most of them attendants. we have tic. as we all know, tic concerns a lot of people who are property owners. they are not renters. so, i don't think the legislation in any way displace anybody, particularly in my case because i work with this group for almost 40 years. so, i'm asking that we allow the condo bypass to happen and change the current law [speaker not understood] because ultimately it will be a win/win situation for all. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. and i have one more card, ethan davidson. go ahead. >>> hi, my name is josephine [speaker not understood]. i would like to ask supervisors to approve this legislation to the full board and allow the condo bypass to happen to help the people who are in tic ownership right now to avoid foreclosure fate and to help them to continue to stay in the city to be middle

many thanks to the tenant organizations and the 30 community groups including the tenant organizations which worked with supervisors of the most campos, kim, chiu, and mar and they thank them for supporting these important displacement amendments, very, very important. and i hope that we can soon thank other supervisors. according to the department of public works, between 1980 and 2011, 2426 units were converted to condos and notice that i said units. we do not know the numbers of people displaced and no one knows what happened to them. tired, worker, i often woner how much longer the department store clerks that are (inaudible) the home care workers and the hospital workers and the teachers will be able to live in this city where they work, we cannot allow our city to be only for those who can pay a million dollars for housing. so we will come a long, healthy moratorium on conversions. we especially cheer the ones who want affordable replacing housing as the 2500 units go through the conversion process over the next six years after which begins the moratorium. one thought comes to mi

we have heard some miss givings today by tenants. i can assure you that the other side of this issue i believe has many more misgivings. but i would suggest we not allow the [speaker not understood] to become [speaker not understood] particularly on a topic we have debated for many, many years. i will say with supervisor farrell here i was a little surprise today hear him say he was opposed to allowing the amendment for the original legislatev asian. i want to explain to the public if we do that, the version he proposed will no longer be before us for consideration. at this point we could be discussing a solution well embodied by the amendments we have that i think protects renters, addresses the situation, the plight facing current tic owners. ~ but says to future tic owners and real estate speculators that they will not see any conversion windfalls for at least the next decade. to me, i think that is a solution that makes sense. and with that, colleagues, i would like to make a motion that we move my amendments as amendment of the

the building is occupied by not so ideal tenants. they pea on the wall and by repairing these items, the odor and stains would reveal themselves in about two years. i told the owner that rather than repairing these items, you should replace them. that would guarantee it for at least 20 years. he liked what i said so in december of 2012 i went to obtain the permits for the remainder of the renovation. the permit was for every violation in that violation packet and i have record on the permit itself that states that basically all violations would be completed. as we did the work for these past months, are what we noticed is instead of replacing just a fix you fixture, a sink, we had to take out the walls for the drainage lines. it took more time. about 45 percent of the electrical is done of the building itself. 45 percent of the windows installations. about 25 percent of the plumbing and only about 25 percent of the building work has been done. the reason for this is building work actually occurs at the end of the project where finish

do besides simply get tenants renters insurance and earthquake insurance, what else do you think tenantsuld do? >> i think it's really important to know if they happen to be in the building where is the safest place for them to go when the shaking starts. if they're out of the building, whats' their continuity plan for connecting with family? they should give their emergency contact information to their resident manager so that the resident manager knows how to get in touch. and have emergency supplies on hand. the tenants should be responsible to have their extra water and flashlights and bandages and know how to use a toilet when there's no sewage and water flows down. and the owners of the building should be proactive in that regard as well. >> so, george, thank you so much for joining us. that was really great. and thanks to spur for hosting us here in this wonderful exhibit. and thank you for joining us m. my name is larry -- and i'm chair of the san francisco graffiti advisory board and deputy director of operations, department of public works. welcome to zero graffiti internationa

i have represented tenants. at some point, i represented both because they have a common interest even in that. obviously, they both have to make the space accessible either now or later, so it is best that they work together if they can. and work together to save us -- to hire a single lawyer. they can make repairs or what ever is in their agreement. sometimes, when the tenant is the small business and does not have much cash flow, one way to do is to renegotiate the lease, where the cost is amortized over a longer period time. it is another way to spread the payments back to the less financially available person. would you do if you get one of these notices? if you have not had your property inspected already, or if you do not do it following this program -- which i recommend you do -- you should have an inspection by an architect who is familiar with ada issues. we call all of these laws ada, but really ada is one aspect of the federal laws. there are five or six statutes, depending on the specifics of the ca

i think the concern i have is that other tenants are paying their 3 percent. so what is setting the precedent is very dangerous because a lot of other people can say, hey, i want to come back and renegotiate. and i don't know that what the obligation is other than we in good faith want to do anything retro active. i have concerns that this is an exception to what we normally do and that creates a precedent for others. because whatever we save for them, eventually going into their pockets is the way i understand this works. the only things that is in the favor of the port is the 20 percent discount. so my feeling is that we should take another look at this very carefully and stay within the parameters of what we do on a standard basis and if there is a way to negotiate the 20 percent discount which i agree is not very advantages to us, but to limit something that is a standard term in other leases, i think puts us for other people to come forth and ask for whatever reason, whether it's the market, whether it's their own financial difficulties and i think that p

and for the change to accommodate a new tenant? >> i understand. so my question is, would the potentially, normally if that is the right way to put it, if you knew that you were going to do that and you are doing the seismic work, would you maybe combine those into one permit? >> not necessarily, it completely depends on the project sponsor and you may have cases where the building owner wants to do kind of the interior capitol improvements and they will file that and execute it and you have the tenant that is the leasecy and they want to file a separate permit so that they can separate what they are responsible for a little bit more clearly. >> is it oska that is filing for the permit? >> i believe that the oska is the permit holder on the second permit on at peel. i believe that is the case. >> that further clarifies. >> if there was a temporary pop up store and it no longer exists as of today, then it does not count. >> that is correct >> it could pop up in the clothes but it looks like there are 20 that popped up and closed. >> you know what i

from the impact and ability for some tenants to stay in their residents. supervisor kim made amendments that i was happy to support that requires the property owners to speak up on issues about the rent board. i have committed to streamline this from the exemplification from the trailing legislation. first, it will simply, if any, the income levels under which the hardship applications will be approved and an hardship application can be appealed by a property owner. this will address the hardship application not only for soft story but throughout the city who are looking for hardship application. but i'm happy to commit to working on that and want to thank the tenants union the housing rights committee and the mayors housing and i hope we'll move forward with this legislation today. i want to make sure that ail our buildings in san francisco will save when the next earthquake hits us. i want to commend the overall legislation we all agree on preserving our older buildings. this is important for our middle class and working class in san francisco. i persona

(inaudible) they will be (inaudible) allow that separate tenants are low income and will not be able to afford other places, i have done this before and we need to be sure that the families will not be forced to move away from the city. >> [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> it will limit the lottery requirement and reduce the incentives for the tent ants will slow down the stock. i urge the board to take the renter's needs into consideration and the amendments that will not hurt the tenants thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker? >> (inaudible) i lived in the mission for about 40 years as a renter. i was evicted twice in the 80s and 90s but it was devastating but at that time you could find affordable house and now it is not possible any more for seniors with people with disability and low income and the rents have risen more than 16 percent in 2012, i am sure that it is a lot more now because it is rising with the tsunami of rich, young tech people coming into the mission. the evictions have doubled in the past year. the motivation is that it is profitable to sell the tenants a

, our brick and mortar tenants, our tenants being mixed greens and murphy's deli, these tenants paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to build out their premises and bring in another cart to place them right in front of -- and operate right in front of an existing brick and mortar tenants is not good business in my case, not only for my tenants who i'm looking out for but as a building interest, as competition grows, rent receipts become an issue when you have increased competition, in addition, there's issues with -- that the building owner of course would have with the liability creating established on this premises the sidewalks are maintained by the building owner, there are no indemnification requirements from a cart operator to indemnify the building owner for any accidents that may be caused as a result of spills created by the cart operation. we would -- the building would be responsible for any liability as such. claiming -- cleaning is always an issue as well, do they have the wear with all to clean up after spills, it puts undue hardship on our staff to maintain a clean si