and it sparked as maria teresa kumar was saying before, an interesting and needed conversation in thisut, okay, now that we all are aware that this is happening, what are the boundaries, what are the limits, and what should government should and shouldn't do with this information. >> definitely where we need to go. but let me go back to you, maria teresa. when you look at the hypocrisy, this is what is alarming to me. the hypocrisy on the right on this issue of surveillance. look at this guy, jim sensenbrenner. look at his record. he authored the patriot act. he dismissed critics who warned of government abuse of patriot act in 2005 and '06. now he says he is troubled by fbi's interpretation of the patriot act. but he skipped classified briefs on nsa programs over the last three years that would have showed him what they were doing. i mean, this is the height of hypocrisy here. >> well, i mean, when they actually had these nsa hearings over -- i want to say it's close to 25% of the senate actually skipped out the go home early. so when the republicans are saying that this is something,