how do we -- we are putting terrace to make them -- terex to make them more expensive. -- tariffs to make them more expensive. 300 million people, 3 billion people. our companies need to sell to an emerging middle class, and we need to come to an agreement. in order to prosper all of us. on the big -- two big to fail, i do not think it is necessarily too big to fail. too connected to fail. these are not necessarily evil. if you are connected all the world, you know aig was ensuring everything and when the lights went out, the financial system was -- another conversation. tavis: how scared should we be? >> we should not be afraid. to thoseto sell people. we need to manufacture products in this country and sell all over the world. [applause] that is where policy comes in. we need a policy to keep some manufacturing and some jobs, the good jobs, the jobs we want here. if a company can do something in india that is cheaper, they will. >> teltavis: why should we be hopeful, given this proposition. why should we be hopeful we can play on a level playing field with china? >> tuolumne answer