he says these things and it is heart stopping because he is going at the things that terify us most andet here is a person who is not afraid of that. as i say, it is very unsettling stuff. >> because as you said earlier, john, because he and all his cohorts at the dinner table are, in fact homo sapiens, human beings, as well. i have to believe that every human being has a humanity that is worth respecting and maybe reveling in no matter how wrong they may be in their political ideology they have a humanity that is worth respecting. how did you connect to the humanity in this character? >> through his humor. that had a lot to do with it. through his own enthusiasms. when he talks about game hunting in africa he talks about it with real genuine passion. it's something that really reaches him emotionally. try to find the things that animate this man and get him excited, make him laugh. it's just what you do when you approach a character. you try oo find out what makes him tick. that is particularly important if you are playing somebody who people already know is the villain purely on the b