he's the one who has the terra-cotta army. >> oh, okay. that's interesting.bring up a good subject, he tried to keep it away from the masses, this is another thing i've see through your book, censorship is kind of a class struggle k, the haves vers the riffraff, people didn't want to share stuff with. church, pornography, what really blew it apart was the printing press. is that right? >> absolutely. we could go into the. one, censorship doesn't work. so then what do you do? if you're moving things, what you are most concerned about is channeling knowledge and ideas rather than suppressing them. when books were written manuscripts, there weren't that many books to go around they were difficult. all of a sudden in the ruling classes, it became available to everybody. in a few decades, the catholic church index, censorship laws repeatedly and the whole thing was keep knowledge away from the masses, keep them ignorant, keep them docile and that has been a main preoccupation. >> i'm thinking what they call a streisand affect, i have heard of best and can explain