well, there you go. >> terry: very sweet. >> jay: very good. >> terry: thank you.-- now, christmas is on sunday. >> yes. >> jay: what's on your christmas list? >> what's on my christmas list? okay, so i have a goldendoodle named maddy -- >> jay: mm-hmm. >> and i love her with all my heart, and i leave tonight to go to my hometown, fort lauderdale. but i don't want to put her underneath the plane. you know, it's dark and it's scary and i didn't want to do that to my daughter. so, i figured, you know, hopefully i could do something for her. >> jay: yeah. >> but -- so, my christmas list is that someone will maybe take her on the plane. there's pet airlines that i tried. it's specifically for pets. >> jay: right. >> but they're -- they're totally booked until next christmas. >> jay: they were booked up? really? >> so -- i know. i know. >> jay: a lot of animals go on vacation? i mean -- [ light laughter ] >> oh, they do. it's very -- it's very big. i know. so, i really -- that's my christmas list, is for her to be there with me. >> jay: oh, okay. >> but you never know.

agent terry, a former u.s. marine from michigan working three and a half years on the border is shot and killed. the subsequent investigation of terry's murder reveals something startling. the gun that killed him is actually from america. it was released by the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms as part of a government sting called operation fast and furious. approved by the department of justice, fast and furious allows gun dealers to purchase and smuggle weapons into mexico. the guns were supposed to be tracked all the way to the buyers who were believed to be from major crime organizations in mexico. the doj hoped to use the weapons to bust the big fishery responsible -- the big fish responsible for the mexican crime. but "fast and furious" is a huge disaster. the weapons are not carefully traced, and of the 2,000 guns let go across the border, 1400 are never recovered. it includes two guns used in the attack that killed agent terry. so who is responsible for this mess? >> i cannot be expected to know t

agent terry, a former u.s.arine from michigan working three and a half years on the border is shot and killed. the subsequent investigation of terry's murder reveals something startling. the gun that killed him is actually from america. it was released by the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms as part of a government sting called operation fast and furious. approved by the department of justice, fast and furious allows gun dealers to purchase and smuggle weapons into mexico. the guns were supposed to be tracked all the way to the buyers who were believed to be from major crime organizations in mexico. the doj hoped to use the weapons to bust the big fishery responsible -- the big fish responsible for the mexican crime. but "fast and furious" is a huge disaster. the weapons are not carefully traced, and of the 2,000 guns let go across the border, 1400 are never recovered. it includes two guns used in the attack that killed agent terry. so who is responsible for this mess? >> i cannot be expected to know the

what's the best way for john terry to clean up his image? everyone knows about the tawdry affair from earlier, the whole world knows about that, then you have this racism allegation. how do you clean up his image and how do you clean up the image of the sport of football? >> let me take the second question. cleaning up the image of sport has to be admitting there's a problem and working towards how does the industry, the game, work with its sponsors, suppliers, players, governments, ngos to come up with a solution of what's our policy on this? and how do we deal with it when it comes up? as for an individual, i mean, leaving aside any one individual, anytime that something like this comes forward, it's complicated. and it's complicated by the fact that there's local proceedings and somebody not wanting to admit that things may have happened when there may be evidence to the contrary. i think, again, the easiest strategy is to admit there's a problem, to move forward on what the fix is and to try to reframe the conversation around ending raci

terry mcsweeney is covering that big story for us.g terry. >> reporter: good morning to you amy. barry bonds is going to be here for the love :00 sentencing. according to prosecutors bonds should go to prison for 15 months. the homerun king coming to the same court for his trial where he was charged with four counts. three perjury, one obstruction of justice. the jury deadlocked on perjury charges. prosecutors will not retry bonds on them. they want bonds in prison for 15 months for giving evasive answers during that testimony in 2003 during the investigation of the balco steroids scandal. federal probation department says no, not prison, but house arrest as well as community service. defense attorneys want just probation. the judge is going to be making that decision this morning. according to her frank record, it would appear she would -- her track record, it would appear she would lean towards giving bonds the recommendations of the probation department, which would be that he would get probation -- house arrest and community servi

racism in football chelsea in england captain john terry is set to face criminal charges for alleged racist comments after liverpool's newest war is banned for eight games . while six point to manchester city aim to stretch their leader a victory over stoke or second place united hope their rival slip up and they be following on a crunch knighted english premier league. but on the brink of fears grow that russian primarily tommy could collapse made a mountain of debt crisis and claims it has omens. we start with the news that chelsea and england captain john terry will face a criminal charge of using racist language towards q.p.r. defend it and this follows after liverpool striker luis suarez was earlier banned for eight games and fined by the english f.a. for racially abusing matched united defender patrice evra all terry is alleged to have virtually abused twenty six year old ferdinand during the blues one nil defeat loftus road on october the twenty third the thirty one year old center half has vanished to find a charge to use a nail and chelsea have offered terry their full suppo

terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >> which we'll have more on in a minute. >> thank you terry. as terry mentioned our vic lee is tweeting from inside the courtroom. this is his latest tweet. you can read it there he writes: prosecution says bonds' behavior breached core of system. honesty. >> bonds' attorney says whatever happens they will be appealing. his appeals attorney is a very good one, dennis riordan, one of the

terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >> which we'll have more on in a minute. >> thank you terry. as terry mentioned our vic lee is tweeting from inside the courtroom. this is his latest tweet. you can read it there he writes: prosecution says bonds' behavior breached core of system. honesty. >> bonds' attorney says whatever happens they will be appealing. his appeals attorney is a very good one, dennis riordan, one of the best in the country. you can track vic's tweets by following abc7 bay area. dean johnson is here and has been following the trial since the beginning. the judge is presiding over this case she has options, she also has history with balco, right? >> yeah she has tried two cases in this balco affair, tammy thomas and trevor graham and sentenced in both cases. thomas got six months of house arrest. graham got one year. the reason was that people felt that graham being the track coach actually influenced so many people in his dealings in steroids, that the higher sentence was justified. >> as we move forward, it looks like probation. all signs point to probation at

. >> smith: you mentioned terry souuhern.thern is onn off3 this, another thing iú thought was interesting, a lot of people with texas connections >> borowitz: yeah. >> smith: on this list. >> borowitz: yeah. >> smith: disprooortionally molly ivins, terry southern, don barthelme. tthre are a handful of people on here and i thouggt that was interesting.ú again that'')s accidental. you didn't -- >> borowitz: it is although -- >> borowitz: it is although i would say what texas has going for it in american comedd, if i can just getta little, dooa littte guess work here. >> smith: okay. >> borowitz: texas hassa real outsider status. texas as many people here know, there are people in texas who consider this sort the rest of the country andm if, and i think it produces, think has sometimes -- has had that opinion. [laughter] >> smith: has been known to have that opinion. >> borowitzz -- have that pinion. yeah. but i think, i think there are certain regions of the country that create kind of an outsider feeling. i for one maybe i rel

he presents a very terri christmas.s morning with his puppet friends vicki the cougar and slut, i call her. and bing crosby. hello and happy holidays. >> merry christmas. >> listen, vicki has been so excited about this. she flew in special for this. how was your flight? >> it was terrible. remind me never to play words with friends with alec baldwin again. >> he's your type, isn't he? >> he certainly is. we play words with friends with benefits. >> have you had work done? i know it's an inappropriate question, but have you? >> honey, if i get one more face lift, neither of us are going to move our mouths when i talk. >> the outfit is rather age-inappropriate. >> she is going on tour with the uso for the holidays. she's very excited about that. >> i get to be the eye candy for the troops. i'm going to serve under some generals. >> oh. >> inspect some privates. >> okay. >> you're a sickie. you're sick. >> we better bring on bing crosby, please. >> has your life changed completely after winning "america's got talent?" >> c

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terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >>> 5:31.tate and local drug agents searching for three suspects as they continue their investigation into a newark medical marijuana dispensary. police raided the marijuana club and a home in a ritzy neighborhood last night. amy hollyfield is live in newark to tie this together. >> reporter: this dispensary club has not been here long, just three months. the attorney representing the people who run it say they've done nothing wrong. police have their suspicions. 2:30 yesterday afternoon police raided a home in danville, a very nice home. armed agent and -- armed agents and two swat teams stormed the home. neighbors watched from inside their own homes as police shot at the door, blew open the windows and sent in a row about the and dogs. police searched the marijuana dispensary center in newark. they believe it was illegally running. they say those who were running it were making six-figure income every month and it was supposed to be a non-profit. >> it is completely a non-profit. nobody is ma

terry mcsweeney is live at justin herman plaza. anyone injured?porter: there were a couple of people injured, including a police officer last night minor injuries, a couple of people arrested occupiers are still here the question is how long is the city going to allow that to continue? it appeared for a time yesterday that their time had come. police surrounded the camp with barricades, protesters blocked market held a general assembly barricades removed by police and demonstrators moved back to camp. they are slided over what to do next. should they accept the -- they are divided over what to do next? some want to go to the mission district, majority want to move, some want to stay. police say some are just looking for a fight. >> i think there's absolutely a fringe group in there that they've been disappointed at the diplomacy that has been exercised. and they absolutely have been itching for a confrontation. >> one that we are very reticent and hopefully, not going to them -- going to give them. >> reporter: there's a group that does not want t

terry? >> the houchling winds out there.hank, david. >>> next up, beyonce is crazy in love and on her way to being a mom. and she items abc's katie couric all about it. >>> she's come a long way since her destiny's child days. but right now, beyonce could be making the two biggest moves of her life. first, she's pregnant. doesn't get any bigger than that. and second, she's reversing the camera to take a director's role in documenting her own work, including on a new dvd. elements of "4," out now. tonight, she talks with abc's katie couric about all of the above. ♪ >> reporter: with megahits like "single ladies" -- ♪ all the single ladies >> reporter: at just 30, beyonce's done it all. she's singer, song writer, actor, fashion designer and model. but never quite satisfied, beyonce is stretching herself yet again. ♪ up in the club >> reporter: she stars in, produces and directs her latest dvd, "live and roseland: el moments of 4." a new convert film of her p performances last summer at the iconic new york venue. you directed t

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hey, terry, good to see you. she's live from chicago.venue, looks like behind her. terry, where are these hidden fees? >> yeah, hi, don. you know, the banks are picking your pocket, too. they have to give you 30 days notice before they change the terms of your checking account. so you're starting to see some little notices. you should pay attention to those. they're starting to charge monthly fees or giving you a minimum that you have to keep to avoid those fees. some of them are asking you to pay for online bill payment, which is really ridiculous since you're saving them money because they don't have to pay to process the paper checks. wire transfers, they may charge you a fee. and all other things like certified which she cans and bank services that used to be free, they're adding those on and, even some cases, higher atm fees. so pay attention. they're hoping you're so busy shopping you won't notice. but they are starting to raise fees and a lot of that will start in january. >> so, terry, any advice for keeping your money safe while

terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >>> 5:04. memorial service will be held this morning for the toddler who died from injuries he suffered in a mass shooting in west oakland. hiram lawrence was shot in the head a few weeks ago and was taken off life support last friday he and six others were shot by gunmen who opened fire on a crowd. no one has been arrested. his memorial service begins at 11 this morning, open to the public. >>> a crackdown could be coming to the occupy berkeley encampment. tribune reports officials say they are getting fed up with violence, drugs, dog bis and filth at the camp -- and threatening more arrests and citations. a council manhattans -- council wants to issue stay away orders. saying the situation in the park is unacceptable and detailed some of the crimes in the past eight weeks. >>> a man suspected of kidnapping and raping an oakley woman has been spotted in southern california. police say 45-year-old stephen paul clark met the woman saturday night at a tavern in oakley. a highway patrol officer re

terry mcsweeney, abc7 news. >>> 6:30 four now.illing nursing student michelle le is expected to enter a plea this morning. giselle esteban was denied a request to replace her attorney during her last court appearance. police arrested esteban in september. a search team found michelle le's body 10 dayser in a rural area. le disappeared in may while taking a break from her duties at kaiser hospital in hayward. >>> federal jury has cleared former bart police officer johannes mehserle and four other officers in a case alleging they used excessive force. mehserle was overcome with emotion when the verdict was an fund. kenneth caruthers said mehserle and the others beat and hogtied him. mehserle served two years for involuntary manslaughter for the shooting death of oscar grant in 2009. >>> south bay man says he was brutally beaten and called a terrorist outside a grocery store by a group of men who broke his jaw and knocked out six teeth saying they were drunk and belligerent. >> they opened his car door and assaulted him. during the a

: from the global resources of abc news, with cynthia mcfadden and bill weir in new york city, and terry moran in washington, this is "nightline," december 9th, 2011. >> good evening. we don't hear very often about the acts of citizen heroism that lift the american reality closer to the american ideal. but 11 years ago, hollywood brought us the extraordinary story of one exceptional hero, erin brockovich, who stood up for a community who she says was being poisoning. she's out there again raising the alarm, and the community she's trying to protect might just be yourses. here's my co-anchor cynthia mcfadden. >> so, ball up and make it right. >> reporter: meet the real erin brockovich. bold, brassy, with more than enough fast to play herself in the movie named for her. >> you want me to trust you? do me a favor, ed, don't use big words you don't understand. >> reporter: instead, julia roberts got the part and the oscar. >> once the chromium hits the pound -- >> reporter: we met the real erin brockovich 15 years ago, reporting on the discontent in inkley and another small town called cattl

i'm really excited about it, terry. kind of a year-ender.e're covering everything from the arab spring and occupy wall street to casey anthony, the royal wedding. and we also have the hall of shame, because there are been many falls from grace, as we know, this past year. i think it's going to be a lot of fun to watch. i certainly had a great time doing it. >> jam packed. >> reporter: action-packed, too. >> sounds good. katie, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> and katie's special is tomorrow at 9:00 eastern here on abc. >>> next up, an emotional homecoming, just in time for the holidays. ♪ all righty. oh, oh. you are a little biscuit. i'm carol. uh, we should skedaddle 'cause it's girls' night. so...okay. oh, wow. you got a skinny-dipping scene after the duel, right? well, i -- shh, shh, shh. show. don't tell. [ male announcer ] your favorite movies right when you want them. just a little -- okay. oh, wow. [ male announcer ] watch unlimited tv episodes and movies instantly through your game console or other devices, all for only 8 b

thinking captain john terry will face a. criminal charges of using racist language towards q.p.r. defender anton ferdinand after liverpool striker luis suarez was earlier banned for eight games and fined by the f.a. for racially abusing manchester united defender patrice evra while terry is alleged to have verbal abuse twenty six year old ferdinand during the blues one nil defeat at loftus road on october the twenty third the thirty one year old center half has vanished to fight the charge tooth and my old and chelsea have offered terry their full support the decision to charge terry was taken after police received a complaint from a member of the public he is due in court on february the first faces a maximum fine of just under four thousand dollars. while the football association this war is guilty of making racist comments to ever in the reds one one draw at home to united on october the fifteenth year ago i started nicely allegations and has a fortnight to appeal while liverpool said we find it extraordinary louis can be found guilty on the word of patrice evra alone the ban w

terry mcsweeney is live at the plaza.last we saw you, one more tent had again up. >> reporter: one went up and came down rather quickly. there were 150 tents here 30 hours ago police moved in yesterday morning took them down the policy is clear, no tents. one example, look at pictures from 20 minutes ago. this is what happened when one occupy protester set up a tent. police officers came over, no doubt about with it, tends coming down. this is what they -- tents coming down this is what they were doing all night trying to set up a symbolic tent here in justin herman plaza that wasn't going to work with san francisco police. a lieutenant helped spell out the new policy of the pd towards occupy sf and their tents. >> i think the occupation will continue and it shall in however way it manifests but it will keep going for the best, for the better and keep evolving. >> reporter: i apologize for that. that was a protester talking about his thoughts about where the occupy sf movement goes from here. what you are looking at now i

state department says they are looking into the status of terry's visa. but he has decided to leave iraq for jordan to join the million and a half refugees that have already fled their country. >> axelrod: and up next on tonight's "cbs evening news." dumpster diving to make a point. hi i'm 2nd lt. scott sipel from wichita kansas, wishing my family a merry christmas and happy new year's. year's. >> axelrod: over the course of the year americans will generate 250 million tons of garbage. one man's trash is another man's treasure. especially in fort worth, texas. >> they need blue jeans and tennis shoes. >> axelrod: like so many of us this time of year jeff ferrell has his minds on gifts. gifts for his wife karen, nothing but the best. like this necklace from nieman marcus. >> i wore it to the christmas party. it was the hit of the evening. >> axelrod: but for ferrell, top shelf is the bottom of the dumpster. >> it makes you think about not only our consumption, but what we do with things when we don't want them anymore. >> axelrod: ferrell a sociology profe

terry mcsweeney is live in san francisco. we are talking about victims who all use the self check-out? >> reporter: it is a self-check-out lane only so far happening at lucky stores around the bay area including this one. take a look at pictures. these thieves, they are thieves but very good at what they do. according to investigators and lucky stores, these thieves insert data skimming devices into swipe months at the self check-out stands. secret service agents are involved calling the scam sophisticated. after inserting the skimming devices the thieves retrieve the information electronically, they don't have to return to the store the devices are connected to a veriphone card reader. credit and debit card information, a huge concern in you -- ukiah, hundreds of residents have had their data stolen numerous fraudulent charges blocked and cancelled cards, savings bank of mendocino has cancelled the mastercards of 1,000 customers. other banks are following suit that blocking the debit and credit cards and you have to go get a

terry mcsweeney is live at the federal courthouse with more. prosecutors are recommending one sentence. probation officers recommend another. >> reporter: yeah. and it is a huge difference.÷ the dii.xnce between prison and freedom. this isiwe where s is going toe today at 11:00 when the hearing starts. the sentencing for barry bonds for obstructing justice in the balco steroids investigation possibly putting an end to this story that has been swirling around the homerun king since 2003. take a look at bonds coming down to the courthouse many times over the past few years. he is convicted of one count of obstructing justice for evasive testimony before a federal grand jury looking into the balco steroid scandal. prosecutors want bonds to spend 15 months in prison. that is the bottom, the lenient side of the federal sentencing guidelines. the judge has sentenced others convicted of similar crimes in the same scandal to just home detention, federal probation department says that home detention would suffice. bonds could also receive probation or

terry mcsweeney is live in santa clara. to the 50 yard line as far as we know what is going on there? >> reporter: well, it looks like santa clara is in the end zone. they are not there yet, but san francisco is backing off mayor lee saying the chances of keeping the 9ers are estimate he hopes they will stay in san francisco but the chances became slipper last night. take a look at the santa clara stadium -- slimmer last night. take a look at the santa clara stadium committee, giving yes to the financing plan for the one billion dollar stadium. prep work for the stadium could begin next month. the site is next to great america. last night most of the people in the audience were in favor of the plan. there were those who were still booing. >> our grandchildren and great grandchildren will be burdened with this massive debt. santa clara residents have been betrayed and deceived. >> they have the 49ers behind them and the nfl. i don't see this as a risk at all. >> reporter: here is what the stadium authorities approved last ni

>> reporter: i'm terry mcsweeney in san jose. a teenaged girl said she was smacked in the head by a sharks fan for rooting for the visiting team. if you think this sounds like a the brian stow story there is an aspect. >> reporter: you may be making your new year's eve party plans, but police officers all over the bay area are making their dui crackdown plans. >>> spotty light rain showers, possibility in the north bay more than likely mist and drizzle and areas of dense fog it >>> good morning i'm frances dinglasan, fog across some bay area bridges looking good across the bay bridge update on an earlier accident in san mateo that i've been following. >> gentleman 5 a.m., on this friday morning the -- >>> it is 5 a.m., i'm eric thomas, kristen is off today. there's fog and mist and drizzle in spots don't expect anything measurable, right lisa? >> that's right. we've been talking all weeklong about how this will go down in the record books for the third driest december since 1849. also with high confidence that what rain we see is

the bombs hit too close to home for a man we call terry. man we met last week in baghdad who worked with the army fighting fraud and reconstruction projects. he asked that we conceal his identity to protect him. >> what did you do for theunited states. >> i helped distinguish who werethe good guys and bad guys. >> he was on his way to workwhen one bombs exploded at his office killing 25 colleagues. >> what will happen to you ifyou stay in ironing iraq and you can't get to the states. >> i will get killed. >> terry has been waiting for ayear for a visa that will allow him to move to the u.s. in a skype interview yesterday he told us he can wait to longer. >> when i was working i wasliving in a secure place. i didn't fear my life. even for the one moment. and now there is no such place. >> the u.s. state departmentsays they are looking into the status of terry's visa. but he has decided to leave iraq for jordan to join the million and a half refugees that have already fled their country. >>> and up next on tonight's cbcevening news. >>> dupms

but first chelsea captain john terry was back in action on thursday night twenty four hours after being charged with racially abusing q.p.r. defender anton ferdinand with terry helping the blues club a one one draw in a pivotal london davia top of all the search and one year old son to home for the pier in court on february the first i will remark he allegedly made in chelsea one zero defeat at loftus road on october twenty third however his manager under a village voice still selected to skip out to the game on thursday night the first of an eight minute lead through emmanuel out of my all but a quarter of an hour later the visitors levelled thanks to daniel sturridge both sides had more chances but one one is how it finished. so off to the top and stay third in the table nine points adrift of the top but with a game in hand chelsea remain forty two points behind much to city are top of the table for christmas two points and ten goals ahead of rivals manchester united although after the match at white hart lane glasgow us praised terry's commitment bahari read not reordered his side se

paul, then terry shore. >> good afternoon, commissioners. i am the executive vice president and chief operating officer at san francisco travel association. on behalf of our members and the 63 employees -- 63,000 employees of the industry, i am here to say that we are in full support of the america's cup coming to san francisco. a couple of reasons. the significant economic impact that it will have on the city in bringing jobs to the area, and also for the improvement along the waterfront, as well as the massive global exposure and visibility from hosting this event. and the ending value that comes by having had millions of visitors come to san francisco, to go back home and share their experiences with friends, families, and co-workers about how great the city is and to have them return. so in closing, we are in full support of the event coming. >> thank you. terry sjore, then patrick. >> good afternoon, commissioners, president. my name is terry shore, with sea turtles.org. where a marine conservation organization. i am here to make a few

the bombs hit too close to home for a man we call terry. man we met last week in baghdad who worked with the army fighting fraud and reconstruction projects. he asked that we conceal his identity to protect him. >> what did you do for theunited states. >> i helped distinguish who werethe good guys and bad guys. >> he was on his way to workwhen one bombs exploded at his office killing 25 colleagues. >> what will happen to you ifyou stay in ironing iraq and you can't get to the states. >> i will get killed. >> terry has been waiting for ayear for a visa that will allow him to move to the u.s. in a skype interview yesterday he told us he can wait to longer. >> when i was working i wasliving in a secure place. i didn't fear my life. even for the one moment. and now there is no such place. >> the u.s. state departmentsays they are looking into the status of terry's visa. but he has decided to leave iraq for jordan to join the million and a half refugees that have already fled their country. >>> and up next on tonight's cbcevening news. >>> dupms

>>a stunning moment in illinois history thank-you terry sullivan. a 14 year sentence. he will serve anywhere from 11-12 years at the minimum ... this is a day illinois citizens will not forget this is the second consecutive illinois gov. headed to the federal penitentiary adding to the moment a difficult one for the people of illinois to swallow. >>julie unruh reports from upstairs that the governor is sobbing literally after hearing this sentence ... >>well is a stiff sentence and the judge said that he wants to send a message ... on a state level there are murderers who do not do this much time getting out in less than 14 years ... >>here's a guy who will be near 70 when he comes out his children will be grown up these hurried the human factors but there are consequences for those actions of the abuse of power >>you saw the governor gets pretty emotional julie >>it was actually patti bloagojevich there was little emotion at the time when the sentence was being handed down she had her composure ... but the floor got cleared and she rushed to her husband's arms they ar