or, for destroying, or as terry anderson said in his session, invoking the idea of the tragedy of the commons is a thing we might want to come back to. >> i would like to thank my colleagues for that really great set up. the tragedy of the commons is exactly the idea was going to pick up on. the tragedy of the commons is an idea an ecologist came up with in the 1960s. what he said was essentially that -- and he used the idea of an english comments. he said "if you have a village surrounded by grazing commons, access to the comments, and everyone can put a single cow there, it is a system."le there's not too much destruction visited upon the commons. inlong as everyone operates the common good, then it works very well. it is very stable and sustainable. but the trouble comes, the tragedy as he called it, comes when an individual says if i add just one more cow to the commons, that won't degrade the commons, but it will substantially increase my own wealth and success. and that is true. as long as he is the only one who does that, there is no discernible difference. but when everyone ac

wondering how long they would keep me and then he came in with his eight year captivity with terry anderson and i thought eight years? i will be too old to get pregnant. it never crossed my mind that this job that i had in having a family or not that compatible with each other. anyway they deported me three days later and i came home to my husband's great enthusiasm and my son was born the following year and at that point i did not want to be going off on long assignments so i made the decision i better get ad new gig i had to works of nonfiction at that time of with kurdish women's writing inti australia and i said i will take the money and see if this could be a novel. so then i started to write the year of wonders. >> it was a journalist book when women it defines the way that i recorded the region because i was interested in the stories and they negotiate their lives but there is a lot of private power so that was the first book the second one was much more personal but the foreign correspondents in question are largely my penpals and i tried to connect to the rest of the world with kid

were going to keep me in thinking of all the journalists who had been detained for years and terry anderson came into my mind and i thought eight years , i'll be too old to get pregnant and i had never crossed my mind that this job i had in having a family were not that compatible with each other. anyway, they deported bu three days later in our son was born the following year and at that point i didn't want to be going off on long open-ended assignments to places where you might get thrown in p the slammer or worse and so i made the decision that i get a new gig in the story was very much my mind may have written some nonfiction at that time and the second one had one a lovely award in australia and it came with a a bit of money and i phenomenally use that money and take sometime and see if this story could be a novel and that's how i started writing year of wonders. >> in your first two books were nonfictionr book. >> the first 19 parts of desire was a journalist book. it was the book of what have i learned after six years living among the women of islam at this time when women are turnin