some people feel that maybe mike jeffries needs to go and we need a bit of the makeover magic of terry lundgrenhe did it with macy's. and they're going aggressively after teens and millennials. maybe he can do the same for abercrombie and fitch. >> i half agree. my other pick was going to be lundgren but going to target. >> he's going to be a busy man. maybe he could do target and abercrombie and fitch. her bi, what is on your radar, sir? >> well, jeff smizek of ual i think does have to go. >> you hate united. you hate them. >> know what? i like the people at united. i think that the company is challenged from bringing everybody together. they're still sort of like they're just merging even though they merged years ago. so i don't think he's done a good job with the employees in creating a good culture. and i think the person who could do that is allan mullaly of ford who i believe has a reputation for being able to do that. working with the labor unions bringing them together. united the best thing they've done is changed their safety videos recently. they're rely creative. but when you sit on

let's bring in terry lundgren. u.s. -- it is different.ow we resolve this. >> it has been a tough couple weeks. -- two sides seemed to lock the two sides seemed deadlocked, even with a small concession by air france yesterday. they say how about we will delay the expansion of our low cost franceia unit outside and holland. they said we want to accelerate growth within france. that was very much rejected by the unions. they are going to be protesting outside the french parliament today in uniform. ad not, they called it smokescreen and generally it does not seem like the two sides are on the same page. >> how long does this go on? how much is this costing the company and passengers? >> an operating loss of 20 million euros a day. it is supposed to extend through friday. it could be longer. the pilot said indefinitely if the issues continue to be, if they do not get any resolution. 000 passengers have had their journeys to trip to buy what has been going on. every day that goes on,, they are getting more and more frantic. any evidence that f

here with more details, terry lundgren. we know about the strike today?ppened is the first thing to mention. there were recent cases when the strike was on and then off. this one had been on. >> it has been on. they will offer just over half of their services, so quite a bit has been canceled. impassioned plea from the ceo this morning saying we -- saying do not , we are hereansa to carry you in the future. it goes to the heart of the operation. of theerms of the effect strike on changing the dialogue between management and high lips, is it having an effect? they have dropped some problems, but i wonder whether progress is being made. >> it is interesting to look at what is in dispute. the retirement age date is they att to have -- if you retire 55, they will pay 60% of your salary or up to 60% of your salary until government pensions kick in. the average retirement of a pilot is 68. is for pilots who are not even working there. interesting to see management grappling with that. >> management is beginning to run out of options. options are beginning to ru