community so they have legal cover. >> commissioner chow: next speaker, please. >> my name is terry morris. i want to thank you for hearing us today. i work with a harm reduction center and program and i started doing harm reduction work as a volunteer 18 years ago in atlanta, georgia where there's incidents. when you hand somebody a clean syringe in georgia, it's an act of civil obedience. when you want it make changes you have to be willing to engage the community and people in atlanta, a lot of people in atlanta at that time needle exchange sounded outrageous and crazy and harmful and i think in san france conversations need to happen. we work with a lot of other community organizations that are willing to have those community organizers with folks with our businesses and people who need to talk the issue and we'll approach them humbly and respectfully and we've had 100 interviews with people who inject publicly. we sat in a small room with people and listened. people said they were injecting indoor ways, garages, busses, bart trains, in bart stations, in alleys, in tents, in the public