is co-conspirator, terry nichols, is serving a life sentence. people are happy to see nickels rot in prison, but not our next guest. janney cover dale lost her two grandsons in the oklahoma city bombing, she had full custody of the boys and just dropped them off in the building that morning. janney joins us from oklahoma city city. thank you for being with us. you've been writing letters back and forth with terry nichols for the past seven years. what made you reach out, write that first letter? >> well, i had questions and i wasn't gettingfully answers, and they had just finished having terry nichols trial here in oklahoma, so i got his address and i wrote him, and i said, since god has seen fit to spare your life again, now it's time for you to tell us what really happened. and i didn't expect terry to answer my letter because i heard so many things about him being a racist and a government hater, i really didn't expect him to answer my letter, and he did. so we started writing. >> and what did he say? >> and that was -- >> well, the first --

is co-conspirator, terry nichols, is serving a life sentence.n, but not our next guest. janney cover dale lost her two grandsons in the oklahoma city bombing, she had full custody of the boys and just dropped them off in the building that morning. janney joins us from oklahoma city city. thank you for being with us. you've been writing letters back and forth with terry nichols for the past seven years. what made you reach out, write that first letter? >> well, i had questions and i wasn't gettingfully answers, and they had just finished having terry nichols trial here in oklahoma, so i got his address and i wrote him, and i said, since god has seen fit to spare your life again, now it's time for you to tell us what really happened. and i didn't expect terry to answer my letter because i heard so many things about him being a racist and a government hater, i really didn't expect him to answer my letter, and he did. so we started writing. >> and what did he say? >> and that was -- >> well, the first -- i can't remember exactly what was on the firs

how long did it take you to forgive terry nichols? for nine whole years. >> and what made you forgive him. and he said based on all of the pain and heartache that i've caused you and your family, please forgive me. and god said in order for him to forgive me, i've got to forgive terry and that's what i started working on. it took a long time and a lot of praying. but i got rid of that anger. >> and would you like to see him released one day? if the governor can shave him, put him on the witness stand and let him lie, he serve a minimum time, i think terry nichols should, too. >> what do you talk about? tell me some of the things that he has said to you. there's a lot of people wondering what he thinks about all of these years locked away. so what strikes you? >> terry and i talk about his mother because i got to know his mother during his trial in november. she would see me in the courtroom every morning and we would sit together and she would talk and terry saw me sitting with his mother and he appreciated that. and we talked about h

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