joining me now, terry o'neill, president of the national organization of women and linda, president and ceo of black women's health imperative. thank you both for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> great to be here. >> terry, are these attacks on abortion rights a particular problem for low income women? >> they absolutely are, reverend. two thirds of minimum wage workers are women. very disproportionately women of color. minimum wage workers are the ones who don't have health insurance and they don't have paid time off. exactly what you were talking about. the delays, the requirement of going to the doctor twice, the shutting down clinics, some women in texas are now going to have to drive upwards of 300 miles just to get to an abortion clinic. by the way, the abortion clinics also provide other reproductive health care services so you are withholding services beyond abortion. so you're making life much much harder especially for the most vulnerable women and it is a complete outrage. that's why the national organization for women is calling these anti-life as well as anti-wome