we're that brussels correspondent, terry schultz, who covers nato developments. welcome, terry. given the pressure at germany has been under for weeks, if not months, we surprised to hear no announcement about these tanks today. i don't think the german government had ever made clear that it would make an announcement at this ramstein meeting. i think, as you mentioned, it was just thought that the pressure would become so intense that it would have to say something more than per story. i said, i'm sure that this didn't bring any solace to ukraine, the, the idea that now germany would be taking stock of what it has in, in it's in it's store houses as far as lepers go, but at least it is movement ahead. well, terry, i want to ask you about the reasons for germany's apparent reluctance to send these that tanks or to give it permission for their use 1st. so i think it would be useful to hear from floor to me as the landscape and the german defense minister policy restores both speaking at today's meeting. time remains irrational level. we have to speed our time must become our comm

as nina hossa at ramstein, let's get into this were that brussels correspondent, terry schultz, who covers nato developments. welcome, terry. given the pressure at germany has been under for weeks, if not months, we surprised to hear no announcement about these tanks today. i don't think the german government had ever made clear that it would make an announcement at this round stein meeting. i think, as you mentioned, it was just thought that the pressure would become so intense that it would have to say something more than pastorius said, i'm sure that this didn't bring any solace to ukraine. the, the idea that now germany would be taking stock of what it, what it, it has in a, in its, in its store houses as far as lepers go. but at least it is movement ahead. will tell you, i want to ask you about the reasons for germany is that a parent reluctance to send these that tanks or to give it permission for their use 1st. so i think it'd be useful to hear from vladimir as the lansky and the german defense minister artist pastorius bo speaking at today's meeting. time remains irrational level.

the w, terry schultz spoke about 2 of those issues with christy wright, who's deputy director of estonia, international center for defense and security. and it is definitely a concern. ah, but it can also be said that the nato countries have not been giving as much as they could give. and so now we are having new decisions. again as tony, i just announced the new major 8 package bigger than any of the previous ones which include so heavy weaponry and ammunition. and estonia is also working hard on replenishing its own stocks and really wishes to kind of show an example to other allies are that there should be more awareness that we need to give more to ukraine now because it is on our own security interest, a better understanding, i think, is still not quite at the same level in, in our allied countries. and especially when it comes to giving her heavy weaponry at the baltic states, sir, think that we must give for heavy weaponry to ukraine so that ukraine can liberate territories. it can be ready for a new russian offensive to push back that and it's in our security interest. whereas in

terry martin. good to have you with us. there are widespread media reports that driven chance for all of schultz will today announce a decision to send leopard tanks to ukraine and that he will also approve other countries to do the same decision comes from it. increased pressure from western allies to scale up military aid for kip. ukraine wants to use the bottle tanks, reclaimed territory still occupied by russian forces. german chancellor, olaf schultz has reportedly decided to send leopard tank to you and allow other countries such as poland and finland to do so to leper tank. so used by a number of nato countries. they're seen by defense experts as the most suitable heavy battle tanks for ukraine's needs follow to me. it's lensky welcomed the news, but says he needs $300.00 tanks, which might or would it put on there is a lot of talk about tanks. know about the modern tide. yeah. need management. how this deficit can be fairly fitzy many effort his words promises or beach, but it is important to us human reality. but there is not 5 or 10 rather than holding it hangs to does the need is greater yet less we do everything.

terry martin. good to have you. with us, german media reporting the chancellor ala schultz will today announce a decision to send german made leopard tanks to ukraine. he is also expected to approve requests from poland, 10 other countries to do the say. the decision comes amid increased pressure from western allies to scale up military aid. 40 of ukraine wants to use the battle tanks to reclaim territories still occupied by russian forces. ah, german chancellor, olaf schultz has reportedly decided to send leopard tanks to ukraine and allow other countries such as poland and finland to do so to leper tank. so used by a number of nato countries. they're seen by defense experts as the most suitable heavy battle tanks for ukraine's needs follow to me. it's lensky welcomed the news, but says he meets $300.00 tanks. which about awarded put on there was a lot of talk about tanks. know about the modern tide. young need wars and how this deficit can be fail if it's in many effort is words promises, or beach, but it is empower lemme reality, but it is not 5 or 10 rather. leukemia thanks to this, anita is greater yet less we do