terry shelton, brussels has been following the talks. there are a lot of different things that nato needs to do, to speed up the delivery of what it's already promised to ukraine. and that's what secretary general stalls and berg was talking about. although they have known for many months now that that ukraine was firing many more rounds of artillery bullets than then could be produced. they have yet to really ramp up production on the ground here in europe, or even in the united states to meet that demand. so now they're getting really serious about it. it's, it's, you know, a shortfall that people worry, could see ukraine actually running out of ammunition. and so each country is looking at what it can do to both generate more, more production in their own companies, and also joined together. they're talking about jointly procuring ammunition now to make the order is big enough to, to entice industry to, to change production power practices and make them more rapid. more than a week after the devastating earthquakes in turkey and syria