that at least three senators, including two very vulnerable ones, senator brown from ohio and senator testa from montana, they are saying joe biden can't win, and then michael bennet, senator from colorado went on cnn and said the same thing publicly. that is the first senator to say something publicly that damning and i think it is significant, but there is still a lot more time left in this game. >> leanne, what are you hearing about these meetings on the hill today? >> first, what we are hearing is a whole lot less than we were hearing about these phone calls that hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader was having with members over the weekend and that is because there were so many leaks from that meeting. so, there has been an attempt by democratic members to really clampdown on what was being discussed and we're told some of them are nervous about saying amongst their colleagues what they think privately or in small groups, but what is interesting is that it seems like even though as hans just mentioned, senator bennett, what he said publicly just a few minutes ago, and tester and brown