they were covered by sheets and we had to basically go through each one to find brian and dad broad tetley was on the flight as well we had to go through each one to find them so duncan started at one end and i started at the other end and i thought i found dad's body and. i really didn't know what what i found is what he and i put the sheet back on and i walked outside and i brace basically brought down what were your thoughts on the floor we never actually talked about this when we were there we didn't really say much on the trip there did you think he would have made it there when we were flying over were you pretty convinced that he had well i must admit i was pretty convinced that he died in you know we were trying we're trying to tell you maybe all of your you know we have a couple of drinks very little but i knew we had because there's no noise from and you know how do you survive we would have heard that was his job to tell the world over you know report on it and sadly the this was it for birding that we both go. what did you feel you were close to the both of them very close to t