let's talk more about that gold trade with joanie tevas as we talk about what's happening with macro,s there a place trend-wise that you have seen this real flight to safety? has it opiniit been the yen, go, treasuries, or all of it >> i think gold's move over the last couple of months has been interesting. one of the biggest disappointments with gold last year was that it wasn't acting as a safe haven. but as we headed towards the end of 2018, this started to change. i think certainly the rally that we've seen the last couple of months does indicate that gold is starting to reassert its safe haven status against the backdrop of a pause in the dollar strength, the backdrop of weaker equities, and lower rates. >> as we talk about the gold trade, like you mentioned, last year it was not a beneficiary of some safe haven buying has gold become or is gold remaining one of the best precious metals to be in are there other opportunities outside of gold? >> from a macro perspective, i think gold is attractive, especially as investors start to consider the cycle continuing to mature and the pr