. >> yes, erin, it's unfortunate but i was just briefed by the texas rangers, 18 children have passed on. and three adults. what i was just told about 20 minutes ago is that the grandmother is still holding on, that she was airlifted to san antonio and so these are the, it's a very tragic event as you can imagine. i can't imagine what it would mean to send your child off to school in the morning and not have him return. so devastating. >> senator, just to be clear here, i understand you're hearing that the grandmother may still be alive but for the children who did go to school in the second, third and fourth grades as we understand it at rob elementary, we understand 14 of them were killed in this horrific shooting and that number now gone up to 18 in the school? >> that is correct as of a briefing i just had with the texas rangers, that is correct, yes, ma'am. >> senator, do you know anything more about what happened or how this happened? there is so little that we know right now, other than that the shooter is an 18-year-old male. we know so little. what else have you learned? >> w

and texas rangers look for a motive behind the attack. 18-year-old gunman was reported a loner with few friends, and plenty of problems at home. >> sandra: texas d.p.s. chris oliveras with more on what we are learning in just moments. >> john: fox team coverage from across the country. >> bill will begin things for us on the ground in uvalde, texas for us. our coverage continues. bill. >> bill: sandra, a lot of conflicting reporting whether or not there was a school police officer on campus when the shooting took place. texas d.p.s. tells me there was a school officer on campus who exchanged gunfire with this gunman. i'm told that the officer was shot and injured and that is when the shooter ran inside the school, got into a classroom, barricaded himself and started shooting in discrimnatly, shows the 18-year-old local resident armed with the rifle going into the school. he shot his grandmother in the face a short time before this, then drove to the school, crashed his car, got out, apparently engaged in gunfire with the school officer, hurt him, went inside, then committed this heinous

there's a texas ranger, literally, every 30 seconds, they walk up to put flowers down. there is a lineup of people, who are handing flowers to the texas rangers, complacent this memorial. coming up next, we're talking about the nra. it is still holding its annual meeting, here in texas, tomorrow. it is not the first time the annual gathering of the gun lobby, runs right up against a mass murder, committed using the product that they push. more on that, ahead. it was 11 days after the shooting at columbine high school in littleton, colorado, that killed 13 people. five students were still hospitalized. but the nra's big annual meeting that year had already been planned. it was set to take place in denver, about a half hour drive from where the shooting took place. the nra decided that the show must go on. >> a feeling that, out of respect for the victims, the national rifle association should not have held its annual meeting here, just 15 miles from littleton. the mayor had asked the group not to come. >> it was my hope that they, as an organization, would say that they

the texas rangers you see are behind them. there are also fbi agents behind him. and that is the map. it looks like of the school. and here we go. >> starting now. >> he's the director of the texas department of safety. >> i'm director of department of public safety. on tuesday the district of the 28th judicial district requested the texas rangers under the department of public safety assume lead responsibility of this horrific murder of 19 innocent childs and two adults. our goal today is to provide the parents, the community of uvalde, the public, as much information as we can and where we are on the investigation. we're here to report the facts as we know them now. not to defend what was done or to criticize what was done. or the actions taken. i'll begin first and foremost with the timeline as we know it. second, the second timeline i'll discuss is the 9-1-1 timeline. then we'll talk about the relevant social or digital media footprint of the subject. we'll also have plenty of time for questions at that point. at 11:27, we know from video evidence, at 11 :27 t

life-threatening injuries and they say this is an ongoing investigation that is being led by the texas rangers. one of those rangers is standing here behind me with the white shirt. and that as soon as this investigation is complete, that they will be able to answer all the questions that they can. so, they say that they know that we have a lot of questions, but until this investigation is complete, they will not answer any questions. >> looks like they're still getting their ducks in a row, kind of huddling right now behind us before they take to the microphone, because they know -- i mean, i can -- there's just a huge scrum here, victor, reporters from every network. did you have something, shimon? >> looks like there are different law enforcement officials here. you see the texas rangers, the local police here, and that's dps here about to come to the microphone. >> optically, you see this show of solidarity between all the different agencies and law enforcement before they answer our questions because they know, as i've said, they're coming out to face -- there are networks. there are inte

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the texas rangers are leading the investigation and are supported by the texas department of public safety, highway patrol, texas department of public safety criminal investigative division, dps aircraft, dps intelligence counter terrorism division, dps crime and victim support. they are also supported by the texas division of emergency management, the fbi, as well as multiple federal partners, including the dea, hss, and border patrol. and the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department, police department, independent school district police, uvalde county constables, county mayor, county judge, district attorney's office, local public works and surrounding police departments. and the san antonio police and fire department also. let me walk you through some of the facts of what has happened. there's been a lot of things said, some are correct, some are incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time. understanding very importantly this is an ongoing investigation. ongoing investigations often reveal new information as those investigations progress. the fir

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>> i've yet to get a subsequent briefing since by 5:30 briefing from the texas rangers. all we know is, he loved those grandmother, shot her. as of 5:30 she was still living. she has been airlifted to san antonio. from that incident, he drove over, got in an accident near the school, and proceeded to run into the school. and you continue this act of carnage. you know about as much as i do, to the extent that the rangers are able to uncover that he purchased those weapons on his 18th birthday infuse days ago. it was the first thing that he did. he purchased those weapons illegally, at a brick and mortar facility here in uvalde. it's understanding to me, but unfortunately in texas, we have been expanding those issues in the legislative process. we have to start looking at this as a real problem, not just in texas, but across the united states. and figure out how we're gonna be able to keep those militarized weapons away from young men like this. >> do you think you have colleagues across the aisle who share that feeling particularly as i spoke to one of your colleagues tha

children and three adults killed in the mass shooting according to a state senator briefed by texas rangerses coming in the massive police presence the gunman identified as an 18-yr-old believed to have been killed by officers and reports he shot his own grandmother before entering the school parents rushing to be reunited with the terrified children president biden addressing the nation tonight after ordering flags to half staff. our team at the scene in texas what we're learning, a special edition of "nightly news" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt >> good evening. he shot and killed horrifically, incomprehensively, the words of governor greg abbott tonight after one of the deadliest school shootings in u.s. history 18, 18 children and three adults gunned down today at an elementary school in uvalde, texas, west of san antonio. according to a state senator briefed by texas rangers, the gunman, 18 years old, and described as a resident of the

, my expectation is that the law enforcement leaders leading the investigations which includes texas rangers and the fbi, they get to the bottom of every fact with absolute certainty. there are people who deserve answers the most and those are the families whose lives have been destroyed. they need answers that are accurate and it's inexcusable that they may have suffered from any inaccurate information whatsoever. it is imperative leaders of the investigations about exactly what happened get down to the very second of exactly what happened with one 100% accuracy and explain it to the public but most important, the victims who have been devastated. [inaudible] >> he had a backup question -- i'm coming to you next. [inaudible] >> my expectation is that as we speak and every minute going forward, law enforcement is going to earn the trust of the public by doing exactly what they are supposed to do and that's making sure they sorely exhaustively investigate exactly what happened and explain to you and the public and the victims of the crime exactly what happened. i told this guy i was coming to

every act by every official involved in this process is under the investigations conducted by both texas rangers and the fbi. every act of all of those officials will be known and identified and explained to the public. but i cannot over emphasize enough -- over-emphasize enough, we need to get that information to the families of these victims, who deserved to know the most. as far as his employment status is concerned, that is beyond my control and something i have no knowledge about. reporter: [inaudible] >> as the governor said, i am not in law enforcement. i am the mayor of the city. and once we know what took place , we will get to the bottom of it. i have been just as confused as you are, as the governor was, because i got the same information that the governor got. i was blown away this morning by other information. i don't have an answer for you but i can tell you, if we need to make changes in that, we will . >> c-span's washington journal. every day we take your calls live on the are on the news of the day and we discussed policy issues that impact you. 70 morning, we talk about the re

texas rangers. if there's any specifics i haven't covered that i might need their support on. i want to cover one thing quickly before i go to questions. some of the questions we received -- that we have already received. one of those is going around now that, in fact, the subject had been one of the two arrested by the texas rangers and the local police in 2018. that's not the case. he was not one of the individuals. in fact, we have found no links association of relationships in that investigation. it was back in 2018. two juveniles were charged with attempted or conspiracy to commit capital murder. no question that we thought and we had evidence. district attorney agreed the juveniles, one 13 and one 14, was a threat to uvalde. there was a discussion at that time, even the senior year of the one that was 14, which would make it 2022. however, that was not the subject. questions? one thing i want to say. one thing i failed to say, when we are done, tony will translate into spanish what the answers and questions are afterwards. [ inaudible ] >> none at that time. the on-scene

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a texas state senator briefed by texas rangers says 18 children were killed. 18 children. that's up from 14, and three adults are now among the dead. the suspected shooter is an 18-year-old man. the governor says he is dead and may have been killed by responding officers. investigators say he went into that school with a gun and possibly a rifle. they also believe he acted alone. >> this happened at robb elementary school in the city of uvalde, just 80 miles west of san antonio around noon. surrounding schools were also placed on lockdown. heavy police presence into the evening. as of now, there is no word of a possible motive. cbs reporter jason allen has more on this breaking story. >> reporter: an army of local and federal authorities converged on robb elementary school in uvalde, texas this afternoon. here police say an 18-year-old gunman went about a shoog rampage, killing at least 14 children and one teacher. the texas governor identified the texas shooter as salvador ramos. he is from the area and died at the scene. >> it's believed he abandoned his vehicle and ente

children and three adults killed in the mass shooting according to a state senator briefed by texas rangersimages coming in the massive police presence the gunman identified as an 18-year-old believed to have been killed by officers and reports he shot his own grandmother before entering the school parents rushing to be reunited with the terrified children president biden addressing the nation tonight after ordering flags to half staff. our team at the scene in texas what we're learning, a special edition of "nightly news" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt >> good evening. he shot and killed horrifically, incomprehensively, the words of governor greg abbott tonight after one of the deadliest school shootings in u.s. history 18, 18 children and three adults gunned down today at an elementary school in uvalde, texas, west of san antonio. according to a state senator briefed by texas rangers, the gunman, 18 years old, and described as a resident of the community, entered the school with a handgun and possibly a rifle it appears he was killed by officer

ready a sack and of course, well, so i got the texas rangers presenting specifics that i haven't covered. i might need their particular support on. i do want to cover one thing before i go to questions and that's some of the questions that we received that we already received. and one of those is going around now that there's that in fact, the subject had been the 2 arrested by the texas rangers and the local police back in 20018. that's not the case. he was not one of the individuals. in fact, we have found no links associated the relationships that investigation 30 was a threat. it was back in 2018 to juveniles were charged with attempted or conspiracy to commit capital murder. there's no question that we thought we had evidence. totally. a district attorney agree that these bugles 13114 years old, was a threat, the evolving and it was a discussion at that time, even the senior year of the one that was 14 years old, which would make it 2022. however, it was not the subject questions, the while you've been watching a police briefing in you describing in detail the timeline of what happe

enforcement agencies and groups that are involved, that were involved, in this process that the texas rangerson and are supported by the texas department of public highway control, criminal investigative division, dps aircraft, dps intelligence counter terrorism division, dps crime and victim support, and the texas division of emergency management, the fbi, as well as multiple federal partners including the dea, atf, hsi, and border patrol. and, of course, the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department, police department, independent school peace officers, district attorney's office, local public works, and surrounding police departments, and the san antonio police and fire department, also. looking through some of the facts of what happened. there's been a lot of things that have been said. some are correct. some are incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time. understanding very importantly this is an ongoing investigation and ongoing investigations often reveal new information as those investigations progress. the first thing that happened was that th

>> my expectation is the law enforcement leaders leading the investigations which includes the texas rangers and the fbi, they get to the bottom of every fact with absolute certainty. >> reporter: after damning new admission from texas authorities, the incident commander making the decision not to immediately enter the classroom the gunman was in. >> decision was made this was a barricaded subject, that there was time to retrieve the keys and wait for a tactical team with the equipment to go ahead and breach the door and take on the subject at that point. >> reporter: officials explained how the shooter got into the school. >> we knew the shooter entered, ramos, the door was propped open by a teacher. >> reporter: investigators clarifying the timeline as police arrived. >> the three initial police officers that arrived went right into the door and two received grazing wounds at that time from the suspect. while the door was closed. 11:37 p.m. more a.m., more rounds fired, 11:44 a.m., at 11:51 a.m., police sergeant and agents started to arrive. at 12:03 p.m., officers continue to arrive in th

the texas rangers who are under the d.p.s. will lead the investigation. f.b.i. with any and all resources they have available. the texas governor is expected to be back here for a press conference sometime today. we just saw, you'll be seeing traffic back and forthright behind me as they continue to process this scene. the truck of the suspect is still here on the scene. that special operations unit is making their way in, conducting this investigation today, guys, we want to focus on the victims, the young people, the young girl that decided she was going to call 911. the teacher that used her body as a shield to protect her class. and also, the special operations agent from the border patrol who wasn't even assigned to this school who rushed to the scene and took out that gunman. ainsley and will? >> ainsley: you know, you think about the border patrol agent that happened to be in the area. here are some of the pictures that little xavier on the left who is 10 years old, that is uziah in the middle and that is, i believe, eva morales. that's a different picture

according to the state senator who says he was briefed by texas rangers. and yet another school in america has become the scene of a mass shooting >> there are families who are in mourning right now in the state of texas mourning with them for the reality that these parents aren't going to be able to pick up their children >> reporter: this time it happened in south texas at robb elementary school for second through fourth graders in uvalde, about 80 miles west of san antonio. at least 13 people were injured according to a hospital official two medevaced to san antonio. a woman in her 60s and a 10-year-old girl both are in critical condition. >> we'll notify the parents and the families as soon as we have some news for them >> reporter: two police officers were struck by rounds but are expected to survive. it all started at 11:32 this morning when the shooter abandoned his vehicle then entered the school with a handgun and possibly a rifle according to the governor. >> it has been reported that the subject shot his grandmother right before he went into the

behind me, there is a mobile command center that has been set up by the texas rangers. it was brought in specifically because this is a large crime scene, a large incident that just cannot be handled by local law enforcement. we have a lot of border patrol onsite, texas dps, people coming in all the way from san antonio to help in this investigation. but absolutely right now, a very heartbreaking situation, as we just saw a few minutes ago, a family sitting on the curb just about 30 feet from me, waiting for information on their loved one. under 10-year-old loved one. we're going to continue to follow this out here, david, as it continues to develop throughout the night. >> and one more question for you, mireya. i know you are a mother yourself, very difficult to respond to the scene of one of these stories yet again in this country. before authorities identify any of these children, we're going to leave that, obviously, up to them, because they have the painful task of talking to all of these families. you also mentioned that many of these parents told you they were loo

we are expecting a lot of texas rangers as well to be arriving tonight.irma garcia, the teacher who lost her life protecting her children, i want you to take a look behind me. all of the people from this town that are showing up here right off of main street in uvalde, there are 21 crosses being signed all day. we've been here for most of the day. by children, by people from out of town, but people here in texas who have driven seven hours, some of them, eight hours, just to come here and leave flowers and toys for the children. irma garcia's cross is among her children here as well as the other teacher who lost her life, and reports are that irma was literally holding her children in her arms when they found her body in the body of the children. her husband -- it's devastating -- but joe garcia came to the memorial yesterday, he came to the memorial to bring flowers for his lovely wife who had been married to for 24 years. they were high school sweethearts and according to family members, the minute he got home he collapsed with a broken heart and lost h

you know, obviously, the texas rangers, dps have started to peel back the onion a little bit and get to the truth. you know, there's a saying, the first forces on the battlefield are greatly exaggerated. people want to embellish and cover for some of their mistakes. just by a simple investigation that dps and in suggestion with the fbi, they're finding out the initial stories were fabricated or exaggerated. and they're getting to the truth now. the truth is just, you know, i have listened to that press conference by colonel mcgraw earlier, and the truth is it's actually frightening. it's very disturbing. >> it is very disturbing. and jonathan, the incident commander treated it almost like a hostage situation rather than an active shooter. doesn't it run counter to everything officers are taught about how to respond to something like this? the other question i have is does it matter either way? why not charge in either way? >> jim, let me just first start off and be very blunt. this could turn out to be one of the worst police failures in modern u.s. history. and there needs to be acc

texas rangers, if there any specific i haven't covered or need their particular support on. i do want to cover one thing quickly, though, before go to questions. that is some of the questions we receive that we have already received. one of those is going around now that there is -- in fact the subject had been one of the two arrested by the chested rangers texas rangers back in 2018. that is not the case. it was not one of the individuals. in fact, we have found no links or associate relationships to their investigation. a threat back in 2018 of the two juveniles charged with attempted or conspiracy to commit capital murder. there is no question that we thought and had evidence. the district attorney agreed that these juveniles 13 and 14 years old was a threat to uvalde. at the senior year of the 114 years old which would make it in 2022. however, it was not the subject. questions? yeah. yeah. one thing i want to say. one thing i failed to say is when we are done, we have tony benny are with us will translate into spanish, okay? the answer some questions afterwards. [report

okay texas rangers. if there's any specifics that i haven't covered, might need their particular support on i do want to cover one thing quickly, though, before i go to questions, and that's some of the questions that we received that we already received. in one of those is going around now that there's that, in fact, the subject has been one of the two arrested by the texas rangers. in the local police back in 20,018. that's not the case. he was not one of the individuals, in fact. we have found no links association in relationships that investigation clearly was a threat. it was back in 2018. by the two juvenile's were charged. with attempted or conspiracy to commit capital murder. there's no question that we thought we had evidence district attorney agreed that these juveniles 1 13 1 14 years old was a threat to your body. and there was a discussion at that time. even the senior year of the one who was 14 years old, which would make it 2022. however it was not the subject. questions. your answers, uh,

and texas rangers look for a motive behind the attack. 18-year-old gunman was reported a loner with fewandra: texas d.p.s. chris oliveras with more on what we are

texas rangers are leading this investigation.. and we're just going to really need them to thread the needle. what they know. was there a manifesto? i have l.t. the pr person for the department of public safety that earlier today said he would be able to give us more information about that later. they are still processing the crime scene behind me. the vehicle that's the suspect used is still behind me. the big witness will be the grandmother. she was the first one shot. she is in stable condition. so they have to interview her and we'll wait for the press conference giving us more details about those minors still in the hospital and we expect to see them pull through. it is still fast moving. the wounds are still open right now because a lot of these parents were just notified hours ago because they couldn't even identify the bodies because they had some dna they were finally able to make those notifications. still very early, bill, very early. >> julie: at this point the investigation is very early. we don't know a motive. bill

texas rangers are leading the state investigation in uvalde. they're the primary investigators for the dps and typically handle high-profile cases. we are now beginning to learn the names of some of the victims. a family member tells our sister station in dallas, fourth grader, uziyah garcia was one killed. the family of 9 year-old amerie garza confirmed her death. xavier lopez was killed. his mother was with him at an awards ceremony just hours before this shooting. one of the two teachers killed has been identified as a family member, she's eva mireles. she's been a teacher for 18 years. a short biography notes he loved running, hiking and biking. a family member tells "the new york times" that mireles was married and a mother. the other teacher killed is identified as irma garcia. her biography notes she was a co-teacher with miss mireles. she leaves behind a husband and four children. for more on that tom winter with us, and jonathan lemire, the chief of politico. msnbc contributor mike barnicle. and "the new york times" elizabeth milltan.

he also says he expects both the fbi and the texas rangers to investigate every law enforcement official that was involved with what happened. jason carroll, cnn, uvalde, texas. >>> now, meantime, governor abbott insists the response to the shooting should focus on mental health and not gun background checks. and that's something the democratic state senator who represents uvalde calls sickening. ron gutierrez appeared on cnn to detail his fight for gun reforms. >> there is some responsibility that should be held, there should be some accountability, and that accountability is with the policy makers that control this state. i asked for a red flag bill in 2019. that bill was killed in committee. it went nowhere. in 2019 they passed open carry. the last thing i said on my floor speech, the last thing i said was i said because of this bill kids are going to die. never in my wildest dreams did i think that that would happen, that that bit of hyperbole would happen in my own district. >> despite the mass shooting tuesday the top gun lobby in the united states, the national rifle association,

we're expecting a lot of texas rangers as well to be arriving tonight . as for emma garcia, the teacher who lost her life protectingch her children. i want you towant take a lookak behinde me. alll of the people from this town that are showing up here u right off of main street in uvalda. there are i u 20 one crosses beg signed all day. we've been here for c most the day by children, by people from out ofby town, by people here in texas who've driven seven hours, some of them eight hours just to come here and leave flowers and toys foril the children. now irma garcia's crossdrdr is among her children here as well as the other teacher who lost her life. and reports are that irma was literally holding her children in her arms h when they foundy her body and the body of the children, her husband. it's's devastating. but joe garcia came to the memorial yesterday. he came to the memorial y toel bring flowers for his lovely wife who had been married for twenty four years. they were high school sweetheartss and according to family members, the minute he got home

exhibit both the fbi and the texas rangers to irn vest gate every law enforcement official that was involved with what happened. jason carroll, cnn, uvalde, texas. >>> we want to keep our focus on the victims and the families and those who have been affected by this horrific act of violence. all have been identified. cnn's boris sanchez has their stories. >> reporter: three days after 21 nebt innocent lives were taken we're learning more about the loved ones this small town is grieving. >> don't forget them please. do something about it. >> reporter: mathias was 11 years old. miranda was a fun, spunky, bright little girl. 10-year-old torres, his aunt telling a cnn affiliate he was, quote, very intelligent, hardworking and helpful person. he'll be missed and never forget. also 10 years old, marie rodriguez dreamed of becoming a marine biologist. other victims' names have also been confirmed. salazar. in a tragic twist the husband of irma garcia one of the murdered teachers has also died. according to the archdiocese of san antonio, he suffered a heart attack and passed away on thursday. the c

he also says expect both the fbi and the texas rangers to investigate every law enforcement official was involved with what happened. jason carroll, cnn, uvalde, texas. >> about an hour ago, i spoke about the delayed police response with former fbi special agent and asked him, how could something that even happen. >> if they had followed protocol, none of that would've been true. when you have three officers in the hall -- if you get three, you're doing well. those officers should've continued down towards the sound of the shots and eliminated the shooter. the problem with him saying we don't think any more kids were alive, that was 45 minutes after they stopped doing what they should've done. >> yeah, exactly. meanwhile, that was in the last of the shooting. do you think the children actually died because law enforcement didn't act properly? it certainly looks that way. -- not being helped -- >> i responded to one active shooter at a school and the shooting was over and the shooter had gotten off the property almost immediately. i believe 5 to 7 people shot. five of them who were fi

all of the law enforcement agencies and groups involved and were involved in this process, the texas rangersing the investigation and they're supported by the texas department of public safety highway patrol, investigative division dps aircraft intelligence counterand terrorism division dps crime and victim support they're also supported by the texas division of emergency management the fbi as well as multiple federalal partners, including the eta and border patrol. and the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department, police department, uvalde independent school district police uvalde mayor, the county judge, district attorney's office, local public works and surrounding police department. and the san antonio police and fire department also let me walk you through some of the facts of what has happened there's been a lot of things that's been said some are correct, some incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time, understanding importantly, that this is an ongoing investigate and they often reveal new informations as those investigations progresses. the

expectation is that the law enforcement leaders that are leading the investigations which includes the texas rangers and the fbi, they get to the bottom of every fact with absolute certainty. >> reporter: after damming new admissions from texas authorities surrounding the commander who made the decision not to immediately enter the classroom the gunman was in. >> the decision was made this was a barricaded subject. there was time to retrieve the key to wait for a tactical team to breach the door to take on the subject at that point. that was a wrong decision. >> reporter: officials explained how the shooter got into the school. >> what we knew, the shooter entered. >> reporter: investigators clarified the timeline as police arrived. >> the three officers arrived went directly to the door and receive grazing wounds at that time from the suspect, while the door was closed. at 11:37, gunfire and another 16 seconds, 11:38 and 11:44. at 11:51, sergeants started to arrive. officers continue to arrive from the hallway and there is as many as 19 officers at that time in that hallway. >> reporter: officers d

expectation is that the law enforcement leaders that are leading the investigations which includes the texas rangers and the epi, are they get to the bottom? americas biggest gun lobby has held a major convention, despite criticism over gun violence in the us, former president, donald trump, and senator ted cruz ramos. they're speaking to an engine. has mona from houston? what you're hearing right now is seeing those are members of the enter a convention coming out. and the voice is behind the camera, or on bridge it was earlier, more than 10000. i would say testers during every time and enter a member comes out. so what you're hearing right now is the response of the crowd outside to the crowd. inside. donald trump essentially said that there were no guns and really measuring who didn't help. you said that's what the left wants, but it wouldn't work. he did say he mourned for those people who died and he mentioned every name of all the children, but our history people were offended that this convention went on 3 days after 21. people were gun down that school in this state. i talked to the congress

we have our company of texas rangers and we have the evidence response team and atf is helping as well. >> can we get you to speak up a little bit. >> we don't see a motive or catalyst right now. we're scouring and will continue to do so. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> they were public, like anything else. they were out there. he was trying to communicate. of course some of the information we're going to have to continue to do interviews with people he was in contact with so we're not even close to being done yet. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i can't comment on that right now. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> very interestingly in the meeting we had before coming out here, i raised that exact issue. because we talked about mental health. and, to me, someone who is as dimented as it takes to kill little kids, it goes beyond seems to me a mental health issue. listen, i'm not a doctor. i can't classify these things. i don't know the extent to which mental health would be able to address someone who has the challenges that they would shoot their grandmother and then shoot and kill all thes

he also says expect both the fbi and the texas rangers to investigate every law enforcement official that was involved with what happened. jason carroll, cnn, uvalde, texas. >> the massacre in uvalde has brought back painful memories for the victims of other school shootings, including one that shook the nation more than 20 years ago. on april 20th, 1999 a pair of columbine high school students killed 12 students and a teacher. my next two guests are both survivors of the columbine school shooting as well as teachers who are now part of a support network for the survivors of other mass tragedies, kiki lay va and heather martin join me now. thank you, both of you. i know this is painful to go all of this all over again. to this day, you teach at columbine. what was it like when you heard about the shooting in uvalde or i guess for that matter any other school shooting or mass shooting that we hear about these days? >> it's just horrific. it's sickening. it's just moving between sadness and anger and just outrage that this continues to happen. >> and heather, you were at colu columbine.

so then they would charge him at that point, but then facing a whole group of texas rangers would repeating firearms. was something that was a shock to them because now these people without reloading were just recognized the hammer we're basically to able to take six shots within a minute. and so much so that colonel walker. push this idea and asked. the us government the ordinance to ordered these guns for the army and in fact call that's the beginning of called success and in fact, he promised to produce 10,000 guns when he didn't have a factory or any means of doing so so you had all these kinds of issues but cult was a very good hustler. and he eventually got to the point where he did set up his factory and he did promote the idea of the assembly line. so he was able to use the idea of having different groups on the assembly one of this claims. which is now shown to be false was the claimed that his parts were completely interchangeable. so one of the tricks he liked to do is to take say a bunch of handguns that were identical at least their same model and then take them apart and then

well, the texas rangers, local police back in. 20,018. that's not the case. it was not one of the individuals. in fact. found no links association relationships. that investigation. it was a threat. it was back in 2018. 2 goals work charge. with attempted conspiracy to commit capital murder. there's no question that we thought able to us. district attorney agree that these people, one, 31, 14 years old was a threat to uvalde. and it was a discussion at that time. even the senior year one was 14 years old. we could make a 0. 22. it was not the subject. thing a little tail of the field say we're done. we have 20, but you with us is going to translate into spanish. ok, what the answers to the questions >> none of that time. the on-scene commander at the time. believe that it hit transition from an active shooter. the barricaded subject. >> we're aware we have. you know, the austin commander considering a barricaded subject in the first time in the no child more children at risk. obviously, obviously, you know, based upon the information we have the work children

>> the way this is obviously a big crime scene, the texas rangers are focusing on the scene at the schoolking on the home where he lived with the grandmother, the grandparents. and one of the things they're doing, what they spent their day today, anderson, is talking to neighbors, canvassing the neighborhood essentially trying to get information about the home life of the shooter to try to understand a little bit about what exactly may have triggered the events that happened yesterday. among the people they're trying to talk to also are friends, people who associated with him in high school before he dropped out as well as people he worked with at the fast food restaurant where apparently he was earning some money, perhaps which is what explains why he was able to pay as much as $7,000 for the arsenal that he assembled, that he was able to use at the shooting yesterday, anderson. >> what are investigators saying about the weapons they've recovered? >> well, right now what we know is that he bought two ar-style rifles. at least one of those appears that was one of the ones he was using --

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