that is for th pentagon and domestic spepending.t means less money for contractors. >> robert rubin wrote this s week he thinks t they will beorced to do somhing fairly dramatic in the e lame-duck seson. he says they should -- rather than bicker over how much to spend on lower income americans -- that wewe really neeeed topend on education research investment. that iss not going to happen in this campaign yeyear. >> it is easy to say we should spend here and here. ththe problem is there is nmoney left. we are bumping up against the debt ceiling again. john boehner is ting to skirt that fight now. they're not sure when we will hit the debt limit but we're $50 trillion in debt with $1 trillion deficits every year. the party is over. there is going to be some reckoning. will throw one curve ball at you. if the supreme court sikes down parts of the health care law but not all of it, we could see a rise in the baseline. we could see some easing of the budget tension. some of the benefits that it cut out, there is a big cost associated wi

pentagon and state department. my approach to this is pull them out and force the russians to verify why they justify whew th need thousands of tactical weapons themselves. >> just to be clear what the independent experts estimate is there are some 180 u.s. gravity bombs in five european nato countries. and russia is estimated by independent experts to have some 2,000 tactical nuclear weapons on their territory. so we have another question here in the middle. mr. culp, thank you. >> david culp with the friends committee on national legislation. a question for mr. wolfsthal. when the budget was released members of congress said the money for the national nuclear security administration was inadequate and said you were basically walking away from the agreements you made in the new start treaty. i wonder if you can go on what the thinking budget view presented and is the administration living up to its commitments from the start treaty? >> i'm just pleased to you refer to me as mr. wolfsthal from time to time, david. thank you. david was a great help, as were a number of people here on the new start process. so we got to work