. >> to thaend, i have a question. if this park happens, which will be fabulous, do they, would need a sound permit all of the time. and i don't remember, the specifics of how we did that with the plaza. but we should think about that process, for this space as well. >> so my colleagues sitting here, and actually spear heading for the office, a larger program to think through how we deal with the spaces like this that is not the rec park but the plaza is and may be back in front of this commission to talk about that and we do have to resolve that as we move forward. >> i would love to talk to you about that because there are a lot of spaces like that in town. >> and i think that robin has been talking with your staff. >> that is cool. >> okay. >> commissioner hyde? >> so you made a statement that when off the grid goes there that the area cleans up, do you have any idea what area is impacted? because i assume that the vagrants who are living there are not housed during that time. so, i mean to say that that area is cle