me — october is thailand's rainy season. me — october is thailand's rainy season.eans smaller crowds and cheaper prices, and the rain only tends to come in short, sharp bursts. also if you choose your dismayed and carefully, it may not affect you at all. on some of the islands like koh samui the downpours do not arrive until september. if you have to be in bangkok there is still indoor fun to be had. we enjoy cooking with to in one of the city's slums, and the markets in the city are largely undercover. this one is kitsch and fun and some of the street through there is wonderful. kickboxing is thailand's national sport and a visit to one of the big arenas is rarely a boring experience. tickets to flights cost around 1000 bath which isjust over 30 us dollars. if you are feeling brave you can book yourself into one of the camps that will train you up and hide anew into a kickboxing machine. 0ffer something more mindful, spend some time getting in touch with your inner monk. some monasteries like this one here in the north—east allow tourists to stay in exchange for a

may to october is thailand's rainy season.s downsides to that, but don't forget — it also means smaller crowds and cheaper prices, and the rain only tends to come in short, sharp bursts. also if you choose your destination carefully, it may not affect you at all. on some of the islands like koh samui or koh tao, the downpours generally don't arrive until september. if you have to be in the capital bangkok, there is still indoorfun to be had. we've enjoyed cooking with poo, which is a school in one of the city's slums, or you could go shopping at one of the night markets, which are largely undercover. this one is rot fai, iun the north of the city. kitsch and fun and as ever, some of the street food there is wonderful. muay thai, or kickboxing is thailand's national sport, and a visit to one of the big arenas is rarely a boring experience. tickets to fights cost around 1000 baht, which isjust over 30 us dollars. if you are feeling brave you can book yourself into one of the camps that will train you up and harden you into a mua

global targets at the same impoverished villages in thailand as a loon farm. and it's really just the same illegally high registration. there is a set cap of how much you're supposed to pay for work abroad so in this case for farm work in the u.s. the worker should not be paying more than sixty thousand baht that is entirely in thai currency. but in fact what has ended up happening the workers who are tote that they had to pay nine hundred thousand baht. they ended up having to mortgage their lands and their homes. and had to. take money from loan sharks borrow money to massive exorbitant debt and and pay high interest on it signed up with global horizons in two thousand and four. and i quote. that i can be american. you're not buying and selling diplomat. i'm right i'm not in the right. month. but i'm really. sonnets mortgaged his home his fields and his father's land to pay the recruiter's fees but the american dream turned sour very quickly in my last night down how much time go by all i have from i don't see how i got an iraq. and i'm going to say it god t

may to october is thailand's rainy season.y, it may not affect you at all. on some of the islands like koh samui or koh tao, the downpours generally don't arrive until september. if you have to be in the capital bangkok, there is still indoorfun to be had. we've enjoyed cooking with to, which is a school in one of the city's slums, or you could go shopping at one of the night markets, which are largely undercover. this one is rot fai, iun the north of the city. kitsch and fun and as ever, some of the street food there is wonderful. muay thai, or kickboxing is thailand's national sport, and a visit to one of the big arenas is rarely a boring experience. tickets to fights cost around 1000 baht, which isjust over 30 us dollars. if you are feeling brave you can book yourself into one of the camps that will train you up and harden you into a muay thai machine. orfor something more mindful, why not spend some time getting in touch with your inner monk. some monasteries like this one here in the north—east allow tourists to stay in e

may to october is thailand's rainy season.oh samui or koh tao, the downpours generally don't arrive until september. if you have to be in the capital bangkok, there is still indoorfun to be had. we've enjoyed cooking with to, which is a school in one of the city's slums, or you could go shopping at one of the night markets, which are largely undercover. this one is rot fai, iun the north of the city. kitsch and fun and as ever, some of the street food there is wonderful. muay thai, or kickboxing is thailand's national sport, and a visit to one of the big arenas is rarely a boring experience. tickets to fights cost around 1000 baht, which isjust over 30 us dollars. if you are feeling brave you can book yourself into one of the camps that will train you up and harden you into a muay thai machine. orfor something more mindful, why not spend some time getting in touch with your inner monk. some monasteries like this one here in the north—east allow tourists to stay in exchange for a small donation and a little bit of elbow grease.

of thailand life has continued unchanged for centuries. close knit families counts of subsistence living by working on. rights fees. and it was here in two thousand and three the agents for an american farm worker recruitment company came calling. us up on. the needs of us all and the nightmare may be back. here. where my. family's in lump and less than one thousand dollars a year. the recruiters told them that in america they would fifty thousand dollars. there was just. to pay illegally high registration fees to the recruiters up front and the. recruitment base were high they were generally between five hundred and seven hundred fifty thousand or between fifteen and twenty thousand dollars but for three years of. they believed guaranteed work in the contract and say three years employment at a rate of eight or nine dollars an hour so when the guys did the math they figured that they could pay off their debt in the first. and then the second and third years would basically profit for their family. and what. if the fact. that decision woul

villages in thailand as aloof. and does recruit just the same. registration. there is a set cap on how much you're supposed to pay for work abroad so in this case for farm work in the us the workers should not be paying more than sixty thousand. that is. current. but in fact would have ended up happening the workers were taught that they had to pay nine hundred thousand. having to mortgage their lands and their homes. and they had to. take money from sharks borrow money to massive debt and and pay high interest. rates. two thousand and. two only. but i'm really. sonnets mortgaged his home his fields and his father's land to pay the recruiters fees but the american dream turned sour very quickly and my last night down town was i go ball i don't see how i got a raw. and i'm going to say it. that i'm running. shall bring home again my name and i got it i'm like ok i want. my new condo my mic on his i don't accept it dog uptown man and i can give you one you only know they're going to run what is that song called the meaning wrong i'm moving on i'm a whole lot a l

banished from paradise the unspoiled beaches of mine in thailand were made famous by the hollywood movies the beach. banishing visits as often as tourism has taken a toll on the beauty spot. ukraine is justifying it staged assassination of a journalist saying the operation planned by the security forces had saved his life here's what happened on tuesday a prominent anti kremlin journalist. was reported to have been shot dead in the you created capital kiev authorities that they moscow but bob turned up alive a day later a shock that provided was wide relief but also anger now your korean faces many questions over the elaborate set up. that from the dead. twenty four hours after he was reportedly gunned down journalist arkady chang enters a press conference held by the ukrainian intelligence service alive and well his apparent death an elaborate ruse to expose an alleged kremlin plot to kill him even his wife was in the dark i want to apologize to my wife for the hell she has gone through over the past two days let's go forgive me please but there was no other option to. release and incred

and the pristine beaches of mine in thailand were made famous by the hollywood movie the beach now tired of parties banning visitors often masters of takes on the beauty spot. we start with some breaking news from the world of sports riyadh madrid cote citizens of don has announced he's stepping down the announcement has taken a footballer by complete surprise this comes just days after. their third. champions league title the frenchman who was the first coach to achieve that feat but only finished third in the spanish league. he told a press conference that it was his own decision and club president florentine of perez has said it came as a complete surprise to him. three one laughed fastidious chap in. the montessori litany of drawing mock. sports desk welcome are a complete bombshell in the world of football i was surprised as i have yes it's come out of the blue i mean if they'd lost that game on saturday there was a risk he would have been sacked because they only finished third in the in the spanish league fantino perez is well known for being a real tough taskmaster but he wanted

as we now know from the public reports december 2002 she oversaw a cia prison in thailand under her leadership at least one detainee was water boarded and subjected to torture method she raised no objections as far as we know it according to fortson 2005 ms. haspel recommended the cia destroy 92 videotapes of interrogation of detainees. cia officials remember ms. haspel was one of the staunchest advocates for destroying the tapes. the staunchest advocate inside the building for destroying the tapes. she went so far as the director of the national clandestine service to urge them to use quote mac the industrial-strength shredder just to make sure they were completely destroyed. ms. haspel destroyed these tapes despite federal court orders requiring the preservation of the cia records and despite the objections of members of congress and against the order of the director of national intelligence the cia director and the white house counsel and senior department of justice officials. in a convenient coincidence for her the case that she ordered destroyed was the interrogation of detainees of thai

marching worldwide cities across europe madrid london lisbon across the atlantic united states and thailand in israel truly a global event so all of those people are found out more about my family as well my great grandmother in media all going to a doctor a military surgeon she actually participated in the battle of moscow she was on the front lines here for many months had searing that she battled before transferring further back into russia where she was the only surgeon for this ship for quite some time in the form of hundreds of operations later becoming all of the recent us a call for means alludes to town in the republic of tatarstan at the russian president's has been participating in the march as well since twenty fifteen a lot of you oppose it alongside him today the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu who's holding a photo of a lot of fights for all the participants of the second world war and hero of the soviet union just going to show just how much this event has expanded internationally how much this means to people not only here in russia but a broad as well we've man

zubaydah captured in pakistan and held in black sites from poland to diego garcia but it was in thailand that his torture became so intense that some officers present choked up with tears and request a transfer from the facility according to one cia cable was waterboard to the point that he became completely unresponsive with bubbles rising through his open full mouth. and the two videos of his interrogation were destroyed by cia officer. now that who oversaw the torture of thailand has received the support of the senate intelligence committee five setting up a floor vote on her nomination as director of central intelligence. claims she would not follow president orders to revive such enhanced interrogation techniques call it what it is torture if you were to reintroduce them even hawks like sen john mccain are not convinced that is best suited for the job but how much should other cia officers be held accountable for a fundamentally flawed cult of intelligence that was empowered by the president and his department of justice to conduct such torture when they just doing their jobs in an

haspel oversaw a cia prison in thailand. under her leadership, at least one detainee was water boarded and subjected to other torture methods good as far as we know, ms. haspel raised no objections. according to news reports, in 2005, ms. haspel recommended the cia destroy 92 videotapes of interrogation of detainees. cia officials remember at the time, ms. haspel was one of the staunchest advocates inside the building for destroying the tapes. the staunchest advocates inside the building for destroying the tapes. she went so far as to draft the order for her boss, the director of the national clandestine service to sign urging them to use quote - and industrial-strength shredder. just to make sure they were completely destroyed. ms. haspel destroy these tapes despite federal court orders requiring the preservation of the cia's records. despite the objections of members of congress and against the order of the director of national intelligence. the cia director, to white house councils and senior department of justice officia

host: and now we go to thailand, for our global ideas series.nimal feed cultivation is a popular source of income for many farmers here. it's about as far from organic or sustainable farming as you can get. and in places like chihiang mi province, itit's having a devastating effect on the local environment. ouour reporter florian nusch wt there to meet a man doing all he can to convince local farmers of alternatives. florian: the mae cham meat market is no place for the faint-hearted. but demand for its end product, cheap meat, is growing around the world. here in thailand, the surging appetite for meat has been accompananied by an crease in demand foror low-cost animal fe. that's a source of concern for rattapat srichanklad. he leads an initiative that promotes sustainable agriculture in chiang mai. rattapat: thailand is one of the biggesest meat exporters in te world. of course, that pleases the government. that's why it supports the cultivation of corn used as livestock fodder. but it wouldld be better to produce food for humans. florian: for

thailand is receiving more tourists, year on year.boyle made the beach, he probably didn't think maya bay would become the draw that it is today. tourism brings huge amounts of money into thailand, but authorities have to make sure that doesn't come at a cost to the environment, in the long term, otherwise the very beauty that people come here for could be ruined, forever. steve holden bbc news, koh phi phi. time for a look at the weather. they are quite traumatic for some parts of the country. philip avery has all the latest details. yes, i think i have a better version of paradise stuck behind me here, than that seen in thailand, it is alljudgmental of course, but this was earlier on, telford way, but it may not stay that way, because this area is on the borderline of change in weather that the met office have certainly flagged up. we saw it first up down towards the far south—east, that great banner of cloud has been creeping in all the while, and from that the potential for some areas to see some really heavy, thundery downpours a

democrats say she should be disqualified because she was in charge of a detention site in thailand where suspects were

hello we've got the usual rash of showers across southeast asia some big ones there into thailand over one hundred millimeters of rain here twenty four hours in those big dam pose will continue to trundle away from aced to west so more storms gathering together southern parts of the mill a potential northern areas of sumatra seeing some bigger lively downpours not wall to wall downpours but still plenty of heavy showers in the heat of the day lots of sunshine ahead of fact they go as you go on into thursday more of those heavy showers through much of the philippines down into malaysia indonesia on the other hand does look like is drying out quite nicely over the next couple of days jakarta

nomination but first some background on the controversy housefull reportedly ran a cia prison in thailand where these techniques were used and she's accused of destroying tapes that documented these interrogations but president trump seems to have no qualms with her questionable history in fact he's even praised her for being quote tough on terror so as you can guess torture and morality were the main topics of discussion at today's hearing you believe the program in terms that you can interrogate program was consistent with american values we have decided to hold ourselves to a stricter moral standards are they consistent with american values senator i believe very strongly in american values i want to trust that you have the moral compass that you said you have i have conducted myself honorably and in accordance with u.s. law do you believe that the previous interrogation techniques were immoral what i believe sitting here today is that i support the higher moral standard we have decided to hold ourselves you've answered the question. and i think i've answered the question if not the he

tourism brings huge amounts of money into thailand, but authorities have to make sure that doesn't comeden, bbc news, koh phi phi. that's all for now — stay with bbc world news. hello, yesterday's thunderstorms took a while to get going but once they did, they brought in a lot of rain and lightning. storms initiated around sussex before spreading in south and southern england, towards wales and the south—west. some torrential downpours brought flooding. there were reports of flooding. there were reports of flooding around the bristol area with the worst of it in west sussex. it was heath, here. the restjust was not cricket. where the boundary should be. and anbar office weather warning, in force until 6am. we could have a couple of issues. you may have heavy downpours here in the next few hours but otherwise, a lot of murky weather, some mist and fog patches, not just round of murky weather, some mist and fog patches, notjust round the coastline but across some of the hills. a mild and murky night. the start of friday morning. friday looks like this, mist and fog taking a long time to b

that she was indeed the torture in chief of al no shiri in thailand and make it go to the close session that was too much and that's why i got up and i said that i said senator wyden is entitled to a direct to an honest answer on that question you know what it is you have the documents it is it is not really kosher it is not really acceptable for you to succumb to refer to as a closed session you should really make that available because even if she says torture was legal it wasn't legal there's not an authority in the world except for those foley years those false lawyers. though gonzales and all those people who made made the case that torture for the first time in history at least since the inquisition was considered illegal it's not considered legal and the reason torture is wrong is not because. is there a law as it gets that please understand there are laws against that because it's just plain wrong ok human beings don't do those kinds of things to other human beings. amnesty international several democratic senators as well publicly opposed the nomination of you for being on your

in the andaman sea off the coast of thailand that you have a look it's b.p. and now the beach however has become a victim of its own fame mass tourism has spoiled my a big enough time authorities have taken action to stop its destruction by vanishing visitors for at least four months. my i can be a magical place but just after sunrise the first speedboats. skipper . sumit money come and his living from tourists and has mixed feelings about the closure even if it is just for a few months. our family before the speedboats came there were wonderful corals here the boats of damage them on the other hand a lot of us live off the visitors. and. some twenty beach wardens to wreck the traffic here otherwise it would be total chaos boats from the mainland spit out hundreds of tourists the beach is only two hundred metres wide the boats have to take turns to more up the smell of diesel hangs in the air as many as five thousand people come here every day the idil is long gone. i mean india would die to have something like this around and you have to preserve it you have

the pristine beaches in thailand were made famous by the hollywood beach now tied a ton of visits to mass tourism has taken a toll on the beauty spot. we start with some drinking news from the want of sport madrid goat village in saddam has announced he is stepping down. just taken the world of football by surprise this comes as days after that in the lead reality deferred convective champions league title the french one that was the first goal to achieve that feat. only finished in the spanish me he told a press conference that it was his own decision and the club president frontino said it as a complete surprise for him. three one. champions league final. for montessori let me draw in mock. sports death welcome are a complete bombshell in the world of football i was surprised yes it's come out of the blue i mean if they'd lost that game on saturday there was a risk he would have been sacked because they only finished in the spanish league is well known for being a real tough taskmaster but he won it amazing achievement and it will fall well you can just go on from here but he's obv

he's played in brazil, portugal, serbia, the uae, turkey and qatar before arriving in thailand, but he many better goals than this. so, advantage biriram heading into the second leg. 3—1 up until injury time but they may regret allowing sonjun—ho to pull a goal back for the k—league champions in the 91st minute. with two away goals, jeonbuk motors will fancy their chances in the second leg next week. elsewhere, on tuesday, chinese rivals tianjin quanjian and guangzhou evergrande played out a goalless draw, iranian‘s zob ahan were 1—0 winners over compatriots esteghlal while qatari's al duhail were convincing 11—2 winners away to al ain in the uae. defending champion simona halep is through to the last 16 of the madrid open after a convincing 6 love, —— 6—0, 6—3 win over belgium's elise mertens. the world number one — a winner here in 2016 and 2017 — got off to an incredible start by winning the first eight games. mertens put up some resistance in the second set, but the result was never really in doubt and the romanian halep will play the czech kristyna pliskova next. in the men's even

zubaida captured in pakistan and held in cia black sites from poland to diego garcia but it was in thailand that his torture became so intense that some cia officers present choked up with tears and requested transfers from the facility according to one cia cable provider was waterboard to the point that it became completely unresponsive with bubbles rising through his open full mouth. and you tube videos of his interrogation were destroyed by cia officer. now that the hospital who oversaw the torture of thailand has received the support of the senate intelligence committee ten to five setting up a floor vote on her nomination as director of central intelligence the house will claim she would not follow president orders to revive such enhanced interrogation techniques call it what it is torture if you were to reintroduce them even hawks like senator john mccain are not convinced the best suited for the. job but how much should other cia officers be held accountable for a fundamentally flawed cult of intelligence that was empowered by the president and his department of justice to conduct su

they are around in thailand. that's not the reason they went to thailand.hey went because they are going to do a basic jump way up high. so the next morning they head out. >> we are going to try to walk up and around the backside of this cliff. >> they have a long trek ahead of them. >> we made it to the first opening. we have to go all the way up to there. >> he's pretty brutal. he takes in the view. >> he is jealous. >> you have three hours. >> i'm like teach me how to base jump right now. >> he told me to leave in a few hours. >> like i can't see over the edge. all the way across here and there's like no good spots to launch from. >> i guess i'm going to have to go back down. >> no. >> this is decent. there is a tree like 30 feet down and then 90 feet down. that's ledge with a bunch of trees on it. >> it hasn't stopped him before. over the edge he goes. >> that's incredible. >> okay. so he pulled the shoot and he is like away from the mountains. that's good. >> it has to be such a good feeling that you're alive. >> yeah. it feels good to base jump and to

detention camp in thailand, that somebody was waterboarded there under her watch. but now leading up to her nomination hearing on wednesday, the white house has been getting plenty of questions from lawmakers wanting more clarity. the debate has been growing. and it got to the point on friday we now know that the white house had significant concerns, and has spell herself had enough concerns about this hearing that she offered to withdraw her nomination. we know that she met with people in the white house on friday. we also know she participated in this practice session known as a murder board where you go over all of these tough questions that she will absolutely face on wednesday. and that reached the point where she said, you know, she would be willing to step away from this if it was going to be too tough. the "washington post" first reported this story. and they reported that she was concerned not only about how this hearing would go, but also how the cia's reputation would come out of this. we know that later on friday, she met for hours with two people on th

. >> well, the cia black site in thailand was called cap. haspel -- theyna describe her as a mid-level officer in the cia. let's remember this was the most closely guarded sensitive program of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, and they chose gina haspel to be in charge of one of the main black site that the cia was using when they would either kidnap -- they color rendition. it is kidnap. when they would kidnap individuals, purchased the from warlords, or receive them from allied forces either in the middle east or in afghanistan and pakistan. and her job was to oversee the interrogation, the briefing as she puts it, of prisoners that were stashed off the battlefield. the rationale was, a, we need to find out who knows what about how 9/11 happened and if we played it and, b, are there more attacks planned? if you remember at that time 17 years ago, there was a lot of concern there was going to be another attack, there was the whole anthrax thing going on. there was real history of. that is the part of it that at yesterday's hearing everyone f

happen in the gulf of thailand these are the two areas to focus on i think for the full cost you know it's that overland so they shout it build by day now if you're in indonesia got a much greater chance of being drawn through bali and the big ol days looks pretty dry but malaysia on particular i think will focus on thailand is likely to be wet. the weather sponsored by cattle and the race. children dream of becoming an astronaut. a father from the stars and set the. teenager from iran. held back by society. reaching for the stars the witness documentary on al-jazeera. you're watching all just here on the reminder of our top stories this hour benjamin netanyahu is issued a stalk warning to iran and syria saying that if they attempt to hit israel though pay the price it comes after israel claimed it had destroyed nearly all of iran's military infrastructure in syria it was in retaliation to alleged iranian attacks on israeli positions in the occupied golan heights. a search and rescue operations underway after a dam burst in central kenya you say they've recovered at least forty nine b

in 2002 haspel oversaw a so-called black site, a secret cia detention facility in thailand. at least one suspect was water boarded after haspel arrived and while she wasn't involved in the notorious torture of she did draft the video tapes of what happened to him. let's bring in our panel. great to have all of you guys with me. malcolm, let me begin with you. what do you make of this apparent reluctance of haspel to go through with the nomination? is it going to be tough to get someone through if they're not committed to the process? >> well, it's going to be tough getting her through if she doesn't believe in it and i think that her reluctance was most likely because she was thinking of the agency. she has a lot of respect inside the agency by career professionals, set aside the part about her working the black site in thailand. she is a professional. she would run the agency the way that it should be run giving the president the advice, you know, as a director should be and not as a sycophant. my prediction for this is, if this pressure keeps up and it looks like she's jus

the interrogation the waterboarding of all machinery in thailand where you personally in charge and she said well senator i appreciate the question but we'll have to take that into closed session because it's secret now who made that secret . it was china has pool so the prospect of gina has full the nominee making incriminating evidence on gina hasbro secret so that the american people couldn't see on t.v. that she was indeed the torture in chief of al no shiri in thailand make it go to the close session that was too much and that's why i got up and i said that i said senator wyden is entitled to a direct to an honest answer on that question roger howarth international stay with us. well welcome to. say hiroshima suffered the horrific consequence of a nuclear blast and later global struggle to abolish the nuclear weapons altogether will it succeed to hear the hague gov of japan's. seventy three years off to the world full of the devastating effects of nuclear weapons. growing with warheads ready to what civilization off the planet can humanity a fool to rely on feel mutually assured de

haspel ran one of the agency's most notorious black sites in thailand. brutal techniques were employed. it included waterboarding detainees, slamming them against walls and confining them in boxes for an extended time. there was a name for this treatment. it was called enhanced interrogation techniques, but we know better. this wasn't enhanced interrogation techniques, it was government-sanctioned torture, pure and simple. torture is immoral. torture is inhumane. frankly, torture is un-american. i agree with my colleague senator john mccain, and he's the one who speaks for the distinct moral clairt on -- clarity on this issue. that ms. haspel's to condemn torture is disqualifying. for that reason alone i cannot in good conscience support her nomination. but it's worse than that. ms. haspel also reportedly advocated for destroying the videotapes of these torture sessions. now, that was against the advice of the c.i.a.'s own lawyers. more than that it was in the convention of a federal judicial order requiring that they be preserved. the c.i.a.'s former ge

torture program first some background on the controversy has will reportedly ran a cia prison in thailand where these techniques were used and she's accused of destroying tapes that documented these interrogations human rights organizations have even called upon the public to reach out to their representatives and oppose her nomination but president trump seems to have no qualms with her questionable history in fact he's even praised her for being quote tough on terror so it's unclear whether or not trump's support will be enough for easy confirmation but what is up to see what happens it jeanne has bill has had practically every senior position in the cia's headquarters she's currently the acting director of the cia i knew her when she was the chief of staff in the counterterrorism center she's been in the senior intelligence service for decades but i think that she's not qualified to lead the cia because the actions that she took during the dark period of the cia's torture program disqualify her she has been doing literally everything she can think to do other than. telling the truth ab

i was on vacation in thailand. the illinois i had the opportunity to take some pictures ploy there. are particular that opportunity didn't just happen by chance and welcome and what are you all right. not some people and got to know them a little. and that's how i ended up taking pictures of the children. or little. bit come to the hague to find out more about an initiative that uses unusual methods to combat online child pornography in asia for example children are abused in front of web cameras and lots of people are willing to pay to watch. an international children's rights organization called ted as home uses a digital trap to snare the perpetrators. they have created a computer avatar an image of a filipino girl called sweetie which is used as a de coin the avatar is uploaded to teenage chat rooms where paedophiles are looking for potential victims victor is running the operation today. again and again men often money to have sex with sweetie they've been duped into thinking that they're dealing with a real child not an adult who's trying to bust them. think to tries to get th