. >> thankou collin. >> back in just a mo

. >> thankou, mr. chair. thosish ice affect my constituents in a major way. second chance opportunities for employment is one of the things i hear most from constituents, somebody had a conviction at some time in the past and they can't get a job. the continuing cycle. but more fundamental is the loss of the right to vote. and i don't know if this has been addressed. just extensively by y'all, but do either of y'all know the history of that particular -- those laws? i was reading about civil death or however it is called. civil death. and that seemed to take away your right to vote and everything else. and being described as barbarous and barberism by reason and by more ality, et cetera. but we have these laws. does maryland have a law like that, mr. heck. >> maryland? >> yes. >> i have to be honest, i'm not familiar with maryland state. >> which state are you from? >> ohio. >> oh, sorry. they all join the big ten and i'm confused. oh ohio doesn't have that law? >> right. >> it is mostly southern states. >> what you say, disenfranchisement, the right to vote,