. >> professor, that's something that we have to get the in thatk of if we're going to be a mix of religionsrowing in number, but people with no religion, and everyone wants a moral base from which to talk to other people. >> i think that's right. and i agree with the other panelists, and we can see this by looking at younger americans leading the way. millennials are already 80 million among us, more than the baby boomers, and they're demanding values. studies show that they're leaving conservative religions and liberal religions over ethics, and questions of civic value. and big questions. so the millennials are leaving the church not because they're abandoning values, but quite opposite. their values are leading the way, and i think that an interest in spirituality and a sense of wonder is part of that. we're entering a new complicated territory for america, and i think that we need to listen to young people to find out the values that they're prioritizing, and to think about how organizations for them, either religious or secular, are going to be exemplifying those values, because they w