it's 9:15, and at >> i just want to point out that under the building code section for the abatement appeals board there's a [indiscernible] for the hearing. normally, the order of abatement would stand. although that would be more of an appeal, i think it also stands at a request for a hearing. >> clerk: okay. it looks like there is a caller now, so caller, could you please press star, three if you would like to speak? >> the hand is raised. >> clerk: the hand is raised. let me give you the host duty so you can try to check with them. >> okay. >> hello, caller. 415-420. >> yes, hi. good morning. >> i want a clarification, madam chair. >> clerk: okay. go ahead. >> i do believe he needs to be sworn in. >> oh, that's right. >> clerk: is this the appellant for request for rehearing? >> yes. >> clerk: okay. i would like to read the oath for you. do you swear that the testimony you are about to present is the truth to the best of your knowledge? >> i do. >> clerk: okay. and i need to read some other information. will appellant will have seven minutes to present his hearing why the department should reh