president obama proposed the aca, he hosted a bipartisan, bicameral town hall type roundtable in the blair house. it was broadcast, in real-time, was-span, and when the bill introduced in the house, it went to three committees that debated its pros and cons extensively. republicans and democrats offered scores of amendments and many of them were accepted. as house majority whip at the time, and when the bill was debated on the floor, i called it the civil rights act of the 21st century. i gave it the moniker because the aca outlaws many forms of discrimination in health care. it almost discrimination against women were often charge more for health care coverage than me in. -- men. it allowed dissemination against people with pre-existing conditions. the aca repeal bill to house toublicans passed and sent the senate would rip away health care from 23 million americans, and raise costs and rollback protections for millions more. now commence and republicans are working as your own their own trumpcare bill and will not tell you what it is. -- buty won't tell you they want to believe it

couple of tweets from viewers. -- look, the aca failed. we were paying $14,400 the year, just got notice that we are canceled. blue cross blue shield point out of individual market. it failed. meanwhile, a california girl says -- talking about speaker ryan -- is to murder thousands by ripping the array -- ripping away health care instead of fixing the aca. dawn, the republican color. hi, don. -- dawn. caller: i used to work in the -- as afield is a pet paramedic. before the aca, people got medical care, -- i'm a little nervous. i apologize. but there was a law that was passed that you get help whether you can pay or not. i saw abuse after abuse after abuse, and people still got their care. they did not have to pay back then, ok? i agree with the callers that say ryan's bill is no good. ashamed of rand paul, though, because he is a doctor and he knows better. he should know -- the whole problem is the insurance companies. they were the problems from years ago. i'm sorry, it is hard for me to talk. >> it is all right. be a surgeryd to schedul

we hear a lot of discussion that the aca is not stable. guest: the congressional budget office said it would remain stable. coming intorers markets and left other markets. fore is an examination -- example, the number of people who enrolled. have they got it enough -- have they gotten enough younger people? there are a lot of variables. the senate bill will take it in another direction. host: how accurate is the congressional budget office when it comes to the projections? guest: it is not uncommon for the party in charge to dislike the congressional budget office estimate. it is an estimate where they have some things right and some things wrong. with the affordable care act, the estimated more in florida would drop coverage. that did not have -- that did not happen. the congressional budget office has been solid. they have complicated methods. the are doing the best they can to protect what-- to project -- to predict what happens. is people who no longer want to buy insurance? guest: some of the people who no longer want to buy insurance.

and even more so for the rural hospitals that keep their doors open thanks to the aca. and the indian healthcare services facilities that reduced wait times and services because of the aca. but the majority refuses to hold hearings and they are blocking no public participation. this is unconscionable and undemocratic. before the republicans and democrats voted on obamacare,tte the senate held 100 committee hearings, roundtables and senat walk-throughs. the final senate bill included 147 republican amendments. a the majority leader has missed an opportunity for political and moral leadership on one of the most important issues we face. senator mcconnell should have an been honest and open process including senate committee hearings. with full public participation and a chance for patients to tell congress how this proposal impacts them. not hidden meanings or limited debate and the simple majority vote. americans deserve an open process from their elected leaders. that is why i introduced a bill last week with my democratic act colleagues called the no hearing no vote act

thanks in large part to the major coverage gains that we've seen under the aca, the health care sector has been new mexico's strongest area of job t growth for the last five years. new mexico added over 4000 health care jobs in 2015 alone. couple of months ago i met with students at central new mexico community college in albuquerque who are training for those health care jobs. these bright young people want to make careers out of making their communities healthier and safer. but with this dangerous legislation moving to washington, they are all worried about what it might mean for the future career plans. why would we want to rip the rug out from under them by wreaking havoc on the nation's healthsk care system? again, you would have to ask yourself why a republican -- why a republican so intent on rushing through a massive piece of legislation before we can even understand if the potential harmful consequences., as i said earlier, i have heardw from literally thousands of new mexicans who have called in or written or come up to me on the street to oppose this legislation. many of the

i am eternally grateful for this provision of the aca. ek after bring our beautiful baby boy home from hospital, i find myself in need of emergency care for a second time. i suffered a postpartum stroke or, is taken to the emergency room and admitted to the hospital for the second time in two months.o again, the aca allowed me to seek treatment and care without worrying about coverage.lth ca the affordable care act will save my sons health care. my son now has a medical issue with his growth. should the aca be repealed, amended, or replaced with something less inclusive? this issue would be considered a pre-existing condition. the thought of my 18 month old son being denied coverage or potential and not being able to afford the health care offered to them makes me sick to my stomach. why would our lawmakers vote to take this away from him? i employee to consider the grean length the affordable care act has gone to not only improve and save lives in my family, the families across the great state of nevada.ren i further implore you to consid

it penalizes older and sicker people, but it doesn't repeal the aca. what it does, it is the single biggest action to devastate the medicaid program. it cuts 25% or more from the medicaid program and as you just outlined, it cuts it back and then starting in 2025, as baby boomers age into the nursing home age, it cuts it even worse. smad, of course, is paying for the care for two-thirds of seniors inside nursing homes. so this is not what america voted for. this is not what senators should be expected to vote yes on. this is not a repeal of the aca. it's a shrinking of the aca, but it's an incredibly damaging set of actions to americans who rely on the medicaid system, which by the way, most of whom are not poor. most of whom are middle class, they're seniors, they're people with disabilities. >> and i know that you oversaw obamacare for a couple of years or so. what do you think makes obamacare different than the gop bill in addition to what you've just outlined and why do you think americans believe that obamacare is a good idea? >> well, almost every

so that's the litmus test of the aca. it's 2018. the years after that, you've got million more people who are projected to be uninsured, 5 million of those are people who are presumably in medicaid expansion states that haven't happened yet. of those 7 million, 5 million are phantom people and the rest is flat, no change in coverage. that might not be a tremendous public policy accomplishment to have flat moments but i think the bill's been badly mischaracterized. >> anton, susan collins, republican senator, a no vote right now. this is what she tweeted after that cbo score came out yesterday. "i want to work with my gop and dem colleagues to fix the flaws in aca. cbo analysis shows a senate bill won't do it. i will vote no." what are the fixes, anton gunn? you're familiar with the act. you had to sell it arndt the country. what needs to be fixed? >> there are a lot of fixes that need to be made and many need to happen at the state level. i think one of the main things, the supreme court gave states an out from expanding medicaid. so

you know exactly what is going to happen with people who were able to get it through the aca? guest: people will still get tax insurance, but one of the things the senate bill does is it lowers the level at which people are eligible for -- from 400%om the at the federal poverty line, to 350%. the senateolder, bill -- the subsidies are adjusted for people who are older and poorer and live in geographic areas where costs are higher. --is not going to be especially if you are older, it will not be as generous as the affordable care act, which basically says they charge older people three times as much as younger people. the senate bill, let's charge five times -- older people five times as much. the other thing the legislation does is it doubles the amount of money you can put into health so that you can stash money to buy insurance. if you are already sick, you already spend money on insurance you only have so much money because you life are paying so much already. of the story we just heard is -- those are the very tough circumstances that obamacare was supposed to address. it w

that can only be done by getting out of the aca and moving to a different model. >> melissa: jam, daveying that if you like what is going on at the va you will love government run health care. >> the best thing that has happened to the aca is the election of donald trump. the popularity of obamacare is at an all-time high since its passage. people want to keep it amble republicans are trying to shove down people's throats with this a hca, they just don't want it. i think it is time for republicans to listen to voters and make those small fixes that need to be made to the aca and get it to work. >> melissa: i don't know about small fixes. anthem has pulled out entirely. here's what president trump had to say but what they are going to do going forward. >> we are going to get health care done, we are going to get the tax cuts done. we have the biggest tax cuts and great tax reform. we are going to get it done but sadly we are going to have to do it as republicans because we won't get any democrat votes and that is a very sad, sad thing. >> melissa: people are sick of hearing stuff like t

he is insured under the aca. you're on with our guests, go ahead.: >> a morning. the future of healthcare has to include the repeal of obama care because for self-employed people we literally have been thrown under the bus. we used to have health insurance now, my family is a family of three, we have an $11000 deductible. we pay $600 per month and we go to the medicaid clinic. all the doctors do is look at their screens, we don't see doctors anymore we see nurse practitioners. is the worst case nightmare for self and cared the true self and -- my wife had have a mammogram and it was $650 in advance. all we have is bills. so when you hear the democrats talking about preserving obama care the democrats are self employed people under the bus.s. we have no health insurance just enormous deductibles. our coverages.mployed medicaid but the differences because we work we pay for it. repub whatever the republicans do for self-employed people will be better that has existed. we pay $20000 before we have any coverage in what we do have is medicaid. it's a atrocious. >> host:

>> he wants to protect the aca and find a conservative reasoning for opposing the aca. e that with senators from arkansas and pennsylvania. they have been pushed by the national party into positions where they are compelled to oppose something where constituents get benefits from. >> this is how we'll get to the productive conversation cornel. >> it is a proverse way to get around it. you can see david's point. this means the system is working because something bad is not being able to come out of that building behind you. >> that's absolutely right. >> david, but, this is where we need partnership aside, radight? >> brian, i know you don't want to get too much into this. gerrymandering, it really is hurting our democracy. so the partisan ship and polarization becomes more increased. you know what, in the end, this is -- obama is republican ideal, lets tweak it and make it better. >> hey, i want each of you writing down o f the three things of a things of the aca bothers you the most. i am going to write those and fix those twohree things and it would pass and you have s

the working poor in the aca states, like kentucky, feel safe. at is why they're panicking about their medicaid. host: let me jump in. you are comparing the affordable care act of what the republicans want to do. let's take "the new york times," medicaid expansion. theacare raised eligibility cutoff. dollars per single person. the federal government paid 90% of the cost for newly eligible beneficiaries. in the senate bill unveiled yesterday, they allow 31 states who expanded medicaid to continue getting federal funding through 2023 with reduced 2020 one. it sharply cartel to federal support for medicaid expansion in 2024, probably causing many to end the expansion. future spending per enrollee based on how much each state has spent historically. states have the option of receiving a lump sum block grant for beneficiaries. the budget office estimate similar policies passed by the house will cut 800 billion over a decade. a budgethe program on that substantially reduces future medicaid spending. here's what "the new york times" editorial says. it wi

unfortunately, another unintended consequence of the aca is it is exacerbating the rural hospital crisis. soledad: what would you, if you we drafting a bill, put in the bill? >> we need a equitable payments soledad: what happens if medicaid es killed, as many people expect? >> it would be devastating. our medicaid. medicaid, and there are soden many asoledad: you are close tot we mentioned you used to work withnot just speaking about the wome senate but across , what would need toilegislators be in the bit it? >> from a rural perspective, we el senate from remote, frontier states, senator alaska where many world committees are not connected by roads, senator coll maine, senator c apito -- we have great hope they wi understand what is needed in rural america. soledad: it's nice to see you. coming up next. santa ana, california. 80% latino, already percent undocumented. why residents say they don't and, the international world of emojis. lladministration if they remain sanctuary cities.list includes , philadelphia, and the entire state of california. a sanctuary city is its legal term, but

york, he'sfrom new insured under the aca. ahead. caller: good morning. the future of healthcare, has to of obamacareepeal because for us self-employed literally have been thrown under the bus. we used to have health insurance we knew our doctors. three, we family of have $11,000 deductible. go to $600 a month and we medicaid clinic. doctors do look at their screens. you don't see doctors there anymore. practitioners. it's the worse case their nightmare for self-employed people. we got rate premium, 13.75%. have a mammogram, $650 in advance. we have lost our health insurance. all we have is bills and we get dumped on the back of medicaid line. hear the democrats talking about preserving democrats use -- threw self- self-employed people underthe b. republican --e oh whatever republicans do for self-employed people it will be better. our family lost our health insurance. $20,000 before we have coverage. it's medicaid. it's atrocious. we have to work to replace this. sharing yourou for story. guests, i'm sure this is not you heard this argument. guest: you'll

cuba, the aca, the paris climate deal. the list goes on. >> yes. absolutely.you just hit the rewind button, president trump pretty much campaigned on everything against what president obama stood for and pretty much said if you elect me, i'm going to undo all of president obama's eight years of legacy. so the country knew that. the one thing i will say about donald trump, he's very predictable and he's turning out to be exactly what he said he was going to be, which is a disrupter. so, you know, that's not a surprise in many ways. so, yes, he is definitely undoing president obama's legacy over the last eight years. >> crystal, why do you think he's so effective at being able to do this so far? >> well, i'm not sure he has been that effective at being able to do it so far. we still have a health care bill, we still have dodd/frank regulations in place. he's been able toll do what he can with executive orders but there's a long way to go there. but robert's right, that was what he was elected to do. he could not be more polar opposite of a human being than presi

obtain were trying to insurance under the aca for my had retired and he had to wait for the medicare to be available. notuse our income was taxable enough, he was not even eligible for the supposed supplemental payments from the government to help with the aca policy. i'm very glad that this caller called in. predict peoplee -- this caller had been through a lot or it i can is here in her voice. hers not going to use medicaid. this lady appears to be on them. if we don't control future .rowth by the way, nobody on medicaid is going to lose it. you'll not lose your medicaid. if you're on medicaid, you are grandfathered in. the future of medicaid .nrollment is as access to places like i mentioned before. places that have already said we have to take a look at how many medicaid recipients we are and weg because the cost .an only take so many brooklyn park, minnesota. were -- michelle's wedding. so wonderful're and logical. caller: he talks about medicaid and excited well and the changes. i think the government has to of drugs for cost medicare and medicaid. the insurance companies and p

obamacare is exploding, et cetera, et cetera, we're saving the aca. on the other hand the democrats will argue and we'll have to see what the cbo says and interest groups say and publics say. this isn't about -- the medicaid expansion is doing fine in obamacare. this is about fundamentally destroying or at least adversely impacting seriously the medicaid program. we have to see how it's framed. >> the republicans want to push this this thing through asap. at the end of the day we know president trump has a strong base that seems to accept, forgive, support him no matter what. if so many trump supporters that were unhappy with the affordable care act and wanted something different. if they lose health care and if their health care is more expensive, isn't it going to be massively detrimental to republicans pushing that through? at this point the voters will say i need my health care. shouldn't that matter? >> it's a great question. a large percentage of the folks who might lose health insurance under the republican proposal voted for donald trump. the r

unintended consequence of the aca is it is exacerbating the rural hospital crisis. soledad: what would you, if you we drafting a bill, put in the bill? >> we need a equitable payments soledad: what happens if medicaid es killed, as many people expect? >> it would be devastating. our medicaid. rural populations are dependen o many asoledad: you are close tot of the women in the senawe mentk withnot just speaking about the wome senate but across the board, conservatilegislators be in the bit it? >> from a rural perspective, we el senate from remote, frontier states, senator alaska where many world committees are not connected by roads, senator coll maine, senator c apito -- we have great hope they wi understand what is needed in rural america. soledad: it's nice to see you. th coming up next. santa ana, california. 80% latino, already percent undocumented. why residents say they don't want their neighand, the internf emojis. women are amazing. our bodies grow babies... we run marathons... ...companies. ...solve problems. how? we eat. we eat almonds, strawberries, quin

as such, texas would be faced with a prospect of dismantling the chip program and as mandated by the aca the state would be expected to continue adherence to maintenance of effort requirements at a lower medicate federal matching rate for over 250,000 children now served under the state residents medicaid program. -- state's medicaid program. through the budget area planning process texas as humid funding for fiscal years 2018 and 2019 at the enhanced federal matching rate should congress elect not to move forward in reauthorizing chips the state of texas will bo longer be able to administer the program which has a proven record of success stemming from adherence to the principle of permanent responsibility, flexibility, and innovation aimedded a enhancing outcomes for beneficiaries. >> chair thanks you for your tim. miss mann you're recognized for five minutes for an openingmorn statement. >> good morning, chairman burgess and ranking member green. and distinguished members of the subcommittee. i'm pleased to be here this morning. cindy man n and i work of matters of public coverage the

it merely amends the aca. the deputy white house press secretary was asked specifically about the president's medicaid promise. >> so if cutting medicaid was wrong when he was a candidate, why is it right in the new republican senate bill? >> i don't believe the president has specifically said that it is right to cut medicaid. >> does the president still believe that there should be no cuts? >> i do know that he wants to protect as much as possible. >> but there has been an update. the new position is, i like cutting medicaid so much, i'll going to throw a party in the rose garden with house republicans. on tv in front of the whole country while we all watched. if there was any doubt, the president just tweeted, i am very supportive of the senate health care bill. i'm joined by the editor-in-chief. this was your summation. poor people pay more for worse insurance. i find the bait-and-switch here pretty remarkable given the way the president he separated himself in the primary and the promise ts that he made. >>

this is -- this is the aca light or obama light. >> i would like to jump in and answer that comment or return the favor. because i heard senator rand paul's comments, and i like him very much. but let me point out, this is -- this bill, the senate bill that repeals the individual mandate, very important for freedom. it repeals the job killing employer mandate. i have a list right here of hundreds of employers around the country who push their workforce down, demoted them to part-time status, to avoid the employer mandate. so many people in this country are trying to cobble together a living with two or three part-time jobs because obamac e obamacare's employer mandate discouraged full-time hiring. >> caller: you're right. >> let me continue. thirdly, the medicaid reform i discussed a moment ago is absolutely essential to this country. medicaid is the biggest item in most states' budgets. it's breaking the bank. it is diverting funds that are urgently needed, for example, for school aid. i'll give you an example. john kasich's own state, ohio, total fund spending in ohio, 40% from medic

so they don't even count them toward the aca. r, that is fine but they did not have the totality of the data. >> you would still vote yes, then? >> i'm a yes right now. as i told you, i think leaders must act and we must take action to help families that are out there and yes, i want to lead. >> representative, thank you so much, sir. great place, virginia beach, virginia, thank you. >> absolutely. thank you. always a pleasure. >>> democrats are not taking recent republican defections on the senate health care bill for granted. today maryland senator chris van hollen held a town hall for the reasons behind the bill. and von miller joins us now from maryland. >> reporter: hey, richard, we are north of where the congress is. we're up in bowie, maryland and on the flip side of this, we've been to republican town halls and you've heard the angry constituents show up but this was a democratic town hall and more than 300 people out here in the suburbs outside of baltimore showed up here to express concern because to the congressman's po

that was his criticism at the time of the aca. how does he feel about this process and what is this republican's perspective on the red line in syria? next. book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it, with great summer deals up to 40% off. visit booking.com. booking.yeah! we send our kids out into the world, full of hope. and we don't want something like meningitis b getting in their way. meningococcal group b disease, or meningitis b, is real. bexsero is a vaccine to help prevent meningitis b in 10 to 25 year olds. even if meningitis b is uncommon, that's not a chance we're willing to take. meningitis b is different from the meningitis most teens were probably vaccinated against when younger. we're getting the word out against meningitis b. our teens are getting bexsero. bexsero should not be given if you had a severe allergic reaction after a previous dose. most common side effects are pain, redness or hardness at the injection site; muscle pain; fatigue; headache; nausea; and jo

we think the aca has done good. we have the first to say it needs further improvement. we want to sit down and talk to about it that we are not going to be in a position where we say okay, only 15 million people will be uncovered and we will support that bill. billionaires will only get a 40,000 tax break instead of a 57,000-dollar tax break or that's not the kind of compromise we are talking about. you really need structural revisions and we have a second suggestion for republican colleagues to work with us. abandoned the closed-door secret process they have use. go to regular order. our committee hearings allow amendments and go back to the idea that you need 60 votes at five hundred and the jordie to pass a bill and make them start over again and work together and try to get improvements in our health care system. if our republican colleagues stick with this bill it was so hurt working families and it would so benefits multimillionaires and them almost alone. we are going to fight the bill tooth and nail and we have a darn good chance of defeating it a week from now,

health care reform in massachusetts, as many people was reform for the aca. folks getk at that, coverage and you have one fewer death. we do not know yet how many people will lose coverage under the senate bill. we know it will be in the tens of millions, but we do not have an exact figure. so, we used different models. moderate -- was some models where there was moderate reductions, but no matter what you do, you see a huge increase in death on an annual basis. when the caller was referencing people using the emergency room, i do not think that was because it was the only place available, but i think it was she was suggesting that people do not have coverage and so they have to go to the emergency room. i think allowing for more doctors -- that is not the problem. it is not so much that you cannot find someone, it is that you do not have coverage you do. anna int's hear from georgia. she gets her coverage from a private insurer. go ahead. caller: i wonder if anyone stops in considers the difference prices that hospitals, doctors, and pharmaceutical companies

wouldn't just undo the aca. it would undo the core base program that was there before the aca. >> just take it back to with the hope here that you're going to transfer this to tax cuts. medicaid is serving the people who need it most. tax cuts will not. >> we're acting as though medicaid is performing beautifully, as though it's like this flawless thing that everybody that has medicaid -- >> no one said it's perfect but what are you going to offer instead? >> this isn't a plan to improve medicaid. you know what, med skad not perfect. right? if you talk to the mothers in my shelter, it's something. it's a way to get well baby care, immunizations, post natal care. nobody's offering them some gold plan, some maserati of new medicaid that's going to help them. all they hear is that they're going to lose what little they have to keep themselves and their children well. and you know what, if you're not well and your baby is not well, you're never getting out of poverty. >> this is the one thing that republicans will ha

is the second funding bridge that has had to occur because of the fiscal cliff that was built into the aca. we now stand adjourned until immediately, in recess until the last vote. come on. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the hearing is in recess so members can cast vote on the house floor. this portion of the hearing and the entire event will be viewable "after words" on c-span.org. the news from capitol hill, paul ryan speaking about tax reform. he tweeted, had another very productive meeting about tax reform with senate and white house leaders. we are going to get this done in 2017. the hill reporting this morning the senate health care bill had a rocky rollout yesterday as republican senators complained it doesn't do enough to repeal obamacare or lower healthcare costs. the blowback raised doubts over rather mitch mcconnell will be able to stick to his aggressive schedule of voting next week. he is at least two votes short of majority and maybe more. for conservative republican senators, rand paul and mike lee, ted cruz and ron johnson r

as such, texas would be faced with the prospect of dismantling the chip program and as mandated by the aca, the state would also be expected to continue adherence to effort requirements at a lower medicaid matching rate for over 250,000 children now served under the state's medicaid program. through its routine budgetary planning process, texas has assumed continued funding for the chip program for fiscal years 2018 and 2019 at the enhanced federal matching rate. should congress elect to not move forward, the state of texas will no longer be able to administer this critical program which has a proven track record of success stemming from the fundamental principles of state administrative flexibility, personal responsibility, and innovation aimed at enhancing outcomes for beneficiaries. >> thank you for your testimony. you are recognized for five minutes. >> good morning. i am pleased to be here this morning. i am cindy man and i work on matters primarily focused on public coverage specifically the medicaid and children's health insurance. i've also served as the chairperson responsible for

the senate. our colleagues when aca came up talked-about field processing and read the bill. will so unless we change reconciliation then amendments with something as important as this and with all due respect is a joke. what happened when we were in charge from democrats and republicans, the hearings as the senate finance committee had on this bill? nine. of the house bill and the markup of eight days on the d republicans said -- and the public inside with their bill is ready? i doubt it. 130.ess. all of committee process thing goes to the health committee. with the round tables and walkers they consider 300 amendments during that 13 day marked up one of the longest in history as it should have been of such a major bill. and with the ranking member but then to augment that the senate finance committee post of legislation online and i would ask rhetorically when the bill is ready prior to the debates or marco up the american people doctors sources with a cancer care groups get a chance to see it? it is not what it seems like to spend those consecutive days in session spe so h

i may be wrong , but the aca was passed aim slr fashion. we have to pass it to see wait is kind of referencing the famous nancy pee lowe's i quote. now government is doing things behind closed doors. how is this making america great again? so really a divided point of conversation where people are, you know, not seeing eye to eye on whether or not should be done behind closed doors. to that first question as to sean spicer we'll just have to see what happens. back to you jim and sean. >> thank you very much. ronica we're back after this h. woo we're back on the latest on the shooting that serious injured steve contact lease. his condition has been upgraded from critical to serious. he were practicing last week right here in alexandria. the gunman shot scalise and three today house speaker paul ryan disliferred the up date on his colleague. he's ' doing much better now. he has had some more surgeries. these are the kinds of things he's going to have to have. he'll have a bit of recover i ahead of him, but he's improving at a pretty good pace

" if the aca is a bad law, repeal it. a new bad law to price out the poor is worthless.he aca is a good foundation, so fix it." and a reminder, you can always @cspanwj.tweet at make sure you say your name and where you are from, and we will play those on our program. we will monitor that feed and look for video tweets as well. barbara,e calls, washington, democrats. good morning. caller: thank you. i have a couple of comments. first of all, i live in washington state, and as far as , i,ng for everybody else for one, would like have to stop paying for fema for all the storms occurring in the south and midwest and all of that. every time there is a storm we end up having to pay for all of those issues, and now we have a president who is targeting the epa. ofs is going to affect lots children and their health care, and at the same time want to cut health care. i think we have to start with getting rid of the lobbyists in washington. that would be a big start in lowering the cost of health care. obamacare or the affordable care act, but until people understand that the lobby

rand paul who has to get re-elected in kentucky is defending the aca because otherwise his career is , thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >>> we're following a lot of news. a live interview with one of the new republicans who opposes the senate healthcare plan. why? we'll ask, you'll hear the answer. let's get after it. >> the big complicated subject, we're still optimistic. >> this was a disaster and i'm glad the american people were able to defeat it. >> the bill overall needs to look like a repeal bill. >> we have a chance to do something very very important. >> no matter how the bill changes at the edges, it is fundamentally flawed at the center. >>> several days before the exposure of john podesta's e-mail -- >> it's extremely important. >> they need to cooperate in the investigation of russian interference. the one person who seems to deny this intervention seems to be the president of the united states. >>> good morning. welcome to your "new day". wednesday, june 28th. claressa is here today. >> how did i get so lucky. >> no. republicans are divided over the healthcare bill

but there's something in the aca called the medical law requirement. what it is is it requires every insurance company for the first time spend 85% of the money that they get paid by consumers on their health care. and that they can take no more than 15% for the administrative costs and whatever profits they're going to take. well, that's being in this proposal, that is being allowed to be eliminated by any state that wants to eliminate it and be eliminated permanently. so what that means is if this bill were to pass, no longer would you know that your premiums were covering your medical costs. premiums could go up as high as they wanted to. right now, even when you have a place where you have only one or two insurers in the market, they can't raise their price too much because they have to give 85% of it back. if they don't, they give them a rebate check to consumers. consumers have gotten billions of dollars in checks under the aca and they'll get more. so this is another piece, if you want to take a look at the insurance company piece versus the gov

we think the aca has done good. we're the the first to say it needs further improvement. but we're not going to be in a position where we say rk okay rk only 15 million people will be uncovered we'll support that bill. bill nars will only get a $40,000 tax break instead of a $57,000 tax break. that's not the kind of compromise we're talking about. we have a second suggestion for our republican colleagues to work with us. abandon the closed doors secret process they have used. go to regular order. have committee hearings. allow amendments. and go back to the idea that you need 60 votes, a bipartisan majority to pass a bill and we can start over again and work together and try to get some improvements in our health care system. but if our republican colleagues stick to this base bill, which so hurts working families, which so benefits multimillionaires and them almost alone, we're going to fight the bill tooth and nail. and we have a darn good chance of o defeating it a weiek from now, a month from now, a year from now. senator durbin. >> for the last several months with th

we're opposed to aca, therefore we're not going to do the medicaid expansion. a lot of it is ideological. they're looking back saying they're arguing to keep the medicaid expansion. we should have taken it. if you think about the original affordable medical care act, the supreme court struck it down and made it so that those red states avoided being able to manage it. probably everybody would have done it. going forward there's a pretty good chance that those states that have not expanded medicaid will find a way to expand it in a conservative manner. if you look at what they did, for instance, in indiana where then governor pence had designed this conservative version of medicaid expansion, that's what it takes. well, i want to expand medicaid because we're going to go do it in a way that reflects our values. >> one last call. good morning. >> caller: good morning. how are you? >> i'm good, thank you. >> caller: i'm disabled and i'm on my husband's health insurance. so what i'm asking, we're paying high -- plus i get medicare on top of it, but we're still -- h

the ironty of mcconnell who is vocal and rightly so about the aca process, even though there were all these hearings and now almost none. >> reporter: look at this. while many people were sleeping, late last night you had the democrats taking to the senate floor. they were certainly wide awake, staging this process, the talk-a-thon. very frustrated with the super secret process now that the republicans are engaged in here trying to come up with their own version of repealing and replacing obamacare. they've asked mitch mcconnell can we have some hearings, a deba debate, even a copy of the text when there is a text. mcconnell has said no to all of those requests. there's very little they can do. a couple of options to try to slow down the government process, routine process and also just simply to make some noise. >> the republicans are writing their health care bill under the cover of darkness because they're ashamed of it. >> if this bill were as wonderful as its proponents would like us to believe, it would be out in the open. >> there's only one word for the nate republicans are do