do you believe the administration used bad judgment? guest: i think we need to investigate this matter and find out what is happening. this may be a possibility. the thing that bothered me the most is that the ceo came into my office and said that he was in good financial situation. that revenues were going to increase. and then within a month they went into bankruptcy. so i want to know what they represented to the administration when they were trying to get their loan guarantee and when they were trying to get further forbearance with allowing additional money to be raised by private investors. and to have the guarantees apply to that as well. host: you'll be able to see the full interview tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on c-span. amy, talks was a little bit more about what representative waxman had to say and how does this reflect on the administration . guest: i thought the democrats were much more muted. waxman, and the ranking member on the investigations subcommittee, they sent a letter a month so ago asking the majo

it got handed over to the new administration. it not get approved during the bush term because there were perceived problems with it then or was it on its way? >> there's a lot of spin on both sides on that. it's a great question that you ask. it's true that they applied around bush administration program which was eventually recycled by the obama administration and given new life. but the problem with the bush administration program is it was never really fully funded so applicants complained bitterly that it wasn't really attractive to them. the white house says, you know, look, the bush administration was looking at this program, they thought solyndra was really attractive, on the other hand, republicans point out that as literally as the bush administration was walking out the door there were committee meetings to discuss should we move forward with this loan and the vote was no, we have more questions about cash issues actually. so were they about to land a big loan with the bush administration? unlikely. were they being revi

bush, and 8 years of the bush administration, and the commitment of the obama administration to those same goals, aids orphans in africa sing "america the beautiful." we went to uganda and i would never forget that moment when literally these orphans saying one of our great national hymns. it was a moment that affirmed what it means to intervene in the lives of people who would otherwise only no hopelessness. in saudi arabia, and throughout the middle east, thanks to the work of the first lady, now continued in the current circumstances, when are no -- women are no longer ashamed to talk about a breast cancer diagnosis. i know firsthand the scourge of breast cancer. when i was 15 years old, i will never forget the day at st. mary's academy, my father was a little late picking me up from school. in the day before cell phones, i got very worried. when he finally got to me, he said that he had taken my mother to the doctor and she had been diagnosed with breast cancer. fortunately, my mother lived for 15 years beyond that diagnosis. but i cannot imagine what would have been liked to be u

we are watching the house oversight committee. this administrationer investigation for not only solyndra, fast and furious, the botched atf, justice department gun running scandal. >> bill: operation, sure. >> light squared, the deal in which we are talking about billions of dollars as you and geraldo were talking about but my god that is absolutely political interference with a four star general testifying before the congress. >> bill: that's the agencies from the general. the four star general we believe. not a good week for the obama administration. >> we can put. >> bill: this has not been a good five days. where is the president? do we know where he is? i think is he back at march that's vineyard. >> he should be. what i find interesting, bill, we can't find the jobs bill credit to congressman -- >> bill: maybe they can find it in one of their aids. i'm being a wise guy. sorry. while everyone else is suffering. our pal al gore he is doing real good. >> he is. he is having a great time generational management. his. >> generational investment mana

i understand't -- the republican administration saying the obama administration is a failure. guest: that remains to be seen. the bankruptcy filings and processing is on going with solyndra. they filed for bankruptcy several weeks ago. as a lengthy process. going back to what i mentioned about the restructuring of the loan in the way the government did that, apparently given the emails and other documents in the investigation, it does appear the the private investor would get their money back before the government does. it remains to be seen whether or not that was a breach of law, and whether or not that will happen. in terms of your second question, i think obama's debt on clean energy, while he is not retreated from that completely, he certainly has no public statements and his jobs speech. even clean energy experts concede it is a long-term investment, not short-term, and that might have been -- a former member of the obama administration told me this is not the best program under the stimulus s, and that is the area to be true. i think there is some disconnect whether clea

but also as the with the obama administration so the main problem of the e.c.l. you really focuses on. in their report is how the patriot act has eroded our civil liberties we have people in government that are now discriminating against muslims we have illegal wiretapping we have something known as kill lists which basically target people where the where the obama administration targets people without transparency without sharing with the american public what criteria they're using to put these people on kill list we're seeing this horrible horrible violation of civil liberties and it's something that these c.l.u. is trying to draw so much attention to but unfortunately the media hasn't caught on to it i think the american public hasn't caught on to it so do i think that this is something that will last for a very long time i do and it does make it different from other instances in the past where we've been in war and you know the law fell silent well the thing is see i just don't believe sure maybe you might be able to slide that past american citizens but i ju

on the administration. it still took more than a month to get a lot of the stuff that was there, and as we're examining now, a lot of the stuff that we finally got, we're now finding these e-mails that nobody knew about before. so, we're going to see exactly where this takes us. how does this thing get approved? and how -- who made the decision to restructure the loan so that, in fact, at the end of the day because they did go belly up, in direct contradiction to the energy policy act of 2005, did someone make the decision to put the taxpayer last instead of first when they filed chapter 11? >> as you know, some of the democrats on your committee say this is an overzealous republican majority trying to embarrass the president and trying to advance some of your own policy decisions. listen to your colleague, ed markey, democrat of massachusetts. >> the majority has chosen to politicize this program and it is attempting to discredit clean energy the same way they have tried to do -- to climate science. it is t

thank you. >> it's important to underscore the administrator's comment about the work force. this is the most skilled work force that is a national asset to this country, and with a phase out of the space shuttle with the building of the commercial rockets skilling at as the space taxi and then now with the big rocket, the monster rocket being set and the contracts as said within a week the contracts be modified you will see that workforce then start to select so that there is not just the precipitous drop that you phase from one right into the other. that is most important to all of us and to the president and the administrator made that comment in his opening line and i just wanted to underscore it. we are pleased to have congressman chaka fattah. he's the ranking member on a cjs subcommittee on the house. congressman? >> thank you, senator. well, the general said he was proud to have flown a few of special commissions. he actually commanded two of them and he is commanding nasa in a way that i think today you see the decision package come together, and as an appropriators,

wikipedia it is remarkably 18 if you look at the bush a administration you can level criticism of thebush administration for the way it dealt with terrorism. it didn't end the bin laden threat even though it had eight years to do it. dick clark during that time when he was counter-terrorism adviser to national security council have almost instant access to the oval office and his warnings about al qaeda were delivered almost directly to the president's desk. when the bush administration comes and it appears they have a different view of the world and a different set of priorities most of them dealing with great power questions between the united states and russia and china and missile defense and rogue states like iraq and north korea and iran and terrorism becomes from the documentary records a secondary priority. again what we know is apparently at philip zelikow's surge in he is demoted and don't receive the attention in the bush administration they did in the clinton administration. >> host: we're talking about "the commission: the uncensored history of the 9/11 commission" by phi

the clinton administration faced similar problems, and the obama administration will have similar problems as well, too. but i thought it was important to put down the record, if you will, of how we dealt with that. now, in the final analysis, the president made the decision. he had to make choices. that's why we got the big bucks and lived in the big house. it's the responsibility of the president of the united states. obviously he didn't always agree with my advice. and in this particular case he opted pretty much for the state department view of how we should proceed, rather than what i was recommending. at it not the first time i've lost an argument with the president. >> host: do you think we're less safe because of those decisions? >> host: well, i think the way to put it would be i believed -- i gave an interview before 9/11, actually along mid-april or may of 2001. weed we'd only been in office a couple of months. it basically -- atlantic or new yorker -- where i cited as the biggest threat the nation faced the possibility of a terrorist organization acquiring weapons of mass destr

then the administration gets fired up. en the people get fired up. >> guest: yeah. >> host: isn't there some feeling as you look back upon it that you could have, perhaps, more adepress i havely pursued this issue -- aggressively pursued this issue? >> guest: i think we were both -- [inaudible] >> guest: i think the commission, marvin, was quite tough on both presidents in saying you were not tough enough on terrorism during this time frame. >> host: absolutely. >> guest: we were pretty tough about that. >> host: but that's post-9/11. >> guest: absolutely. >> host: that's when the factor's right there, and how do you escape -- >> guest: but you've got to remember before 9/11 presidents have 150 things on their desk. they've got 150 advisers out here telling 'em, mr. president, this is the number one priority. and so a president is confronted with this, and he says, okay, what evidence do you have that the terrorists are about to strike? well, they pull out the august 6th memorandum. that occurred at a time of a lot of chatt

versus the rhetoric coming out of this administration. n july and august alone there have been 1,200, over 1,200 proposed and finalized regulations at a cost of over $17 billion. the white house conveniently forgot that when they said over five years they were going to try to eliminate regulations and save $10 billion over five years. so the reality is they have added in two months alone $17 billion in regulations and these regulations continue to be a heavy wet blanket over our economy. >> as i traveled my state in addition to historic 100-year drought and wildfires, it seems like everywhere, i heard people talk about their concern that unemployment remains unacceptably high. and how they believe that the short-term fixes that are coming out of congress are creating more uncertainty, more debt, more questions about taxes and the future of our tax policy and thus keeping the very people who are sitting on trillions of dollars worth cash who could create jobs if they were properly incentive advised. keeping them on the sidelines. rather tha

it shows that under both the bush administration and the obama administration, d.o.e. official strongly backed solyndra. they believe the solar panels offered -- >> can i have an opportunity to speak that strik? >> they thought the internal reviews the they conducted and the external ones showed solyndra could compete. the senators were not realized. today we will ask why. there are and development in the marketplace and solyndra and and d.o.e.argued? was there corporate malfeasance? by late 2010, they knew solyndra was facing difficulty meeting the loan obligation. this triggered an internal debate about what the government should do. d.o.e. predicted an immediate liquidation would return. did they favored restructuring because of the potential for recovery more of the investment pared some officials predict investment. some officials warned -- more of an investment. some officials warned of a default. we need to ask whether the right choice was made. given the dollar's address, we have an obligation to the taxpayer to investigate the transaction early. i welcome this

the bush administration d.o.e. invited solyndra to submit a full application and by the end of the period, they sent the document to its critical committee for review. d.o.e. continued to work on the application and ultimately approved the application in 2009. in 2010, a pre-i.p.o. audit of solyndra raised concerns about solyndra's viability. by late 2010, d.o.e. had determined that the company was headed towards default. d.o.e. was faced with a choice at this point, restructure the loan to increase the chances solyndra could repay the taxpayers' funds or cut their losses and expect the possibility of default. ultimately, d.o.e. determined restructuring was the course of action most likely to preserve the full recovery of the loan value. under terms approved in february, 2011, solyndra was given more time to repay the loan. the government obtained additional collateral and solyndra was required to raise an additional $75 million from private investors that would have privacy over the government's interest in the eve

so the number of administrators have gone up 85%. while the students, while the student teacher ratio remained about the same. >> steve, is there any academic literature that shows that link between the subsidiaries and college tuition? >> there is no question about it. >> naomi said they run in parallel. this is a classic third party payer system problem that we see in healthcare. when somebody else pays for it, the cost explode. and yet in the area of education, the costs are going up faster than they are in healthcare. when is last time you said bend the cost curve down in education? i two sons in college now. i am going to need a big pay raise to pay for tuition. it's $50,000 a year. >> you said it's third party payer problem. you said you are writing the checks that middle class families are doing. the subsidiaries don't help a lot of families. they do increase the cost. if you are a certain kind of family and you make maybe upper middle class income, you are really getting socked with big bills. >> well, that is partly true. but

how well as the obama administration responded and how has the bush administration responded differently if he had still been in power? thank you. >> well, it's difficult to judge the quality of the effort without speculating what is going to come out of the far end of the process, and frankly answers to a couple key questions. i don't know who is going to be in charge when the dust settles and the new government are established what are these regimes going to be like, how are they going to look at the u.s., what kind of relationships are we going to have? in some cases some of the regime's have been replaced and president mubarak in egypt for civil had been good friends and allies of the united states over the years worked closely together in the first four for example, so i -- if you are evaluating the outcome in terms of u.s. interest i think that there's a lot we don't yet know about the outcome. in terms of whether or not we should be supportive, i think that it is important we've continue to express our support and certain values that we believe people want to have the opportunity

well let's keep in mind one thing which is once the bush administration was no longer in power the obama administration was they were every bit as much devoted to shielding the wrongdoers name with the people who tortured and abused and violated the legal rights of those at the dia as the bush administration was so sued several bush officials such as john ashcroft and john yoo donald rumsfeld who were directly responsible for the torture and lowest attention to which he was subjected and the obama administration vigorously defended those bush officials and insisted that they not be held liable in a court because they were immune as government officials beyond that it was the bush administration that originally appealed to seventeen year sentence to which could be subjected but it was the obama administration once the the d.p. was perfected that pursued the appeal and argued it in court and in the end demanded that he be given an even greater sentence you know and let's be very clear the seventeen year sentence is on top of the five years that he spent in prison with no charges so it's re

, the ford administration, both bush administrations, my time in congress. that was my objective. >> schieffer: you were though clearly disappointed and said so in the book with the president's refusal to pardon your friend and your top aide scooter libby who had been charged with obstruction of justice and perjury growing out of this whole controversy with valerie plame and all of that. here's what you said. you said george bush made courageous decisions as president. to this day i wish that pardoning scooter lib he would have been one of them. is that a way of saying he didn't have the courage. >> it means exactly what it said. the fact is i argued strenuously on scooter's behalf. i really thought he got a bum deal. that he should not have been indicted. we had this whole who-rah about who leaked plame's name to the press. it was dick armitage deputy secretary of state. nothing ever happened to rich. instead they spent two-and-a-half years and finally got to the point where they could try to indict scooter. i have thought he deserved a pardon. in fairness t

>> clearly, the administration is not job creating. ou stop digging the hole because you're getting too dip. stop digging. hand the shovel over. try something new. try the repatriation if that's the purpose, to redistribute wealth, this really ridiculous progressive socialist agenda that we're perpetuating, if that's the plan, then do what you're doing. if you want to create a job, try something different. >> speaking of jobs, what are you doing on your regular show later today? >> we're going to do the jobs numbers and a whole bunch of other economic numbers coming out today and then, you know, we put that show together at 10:00 in the morning and it's a great show. we have a lot of fun. >> called "the five" and you can check it out here 5:00 p.m. eastern time on the fox newschannel. see you again. >> have a six pack during "the five". >> me, too. me, too. >> you have to change time zones if you're going to have a six. you have a trader at ubs, the banking giant believes the 31-year-old lost about $2 billion in unauthorized trades. ubs

it is interesting, in the first few months of the administration, he had his chance. a 75% approval rating. he had the capital. he wanted to restructure the big banks in america. the evidence is clear, they were much more cautious and attuned to wall street's position. the president wanted to do more and he was stopped. after that, he got the wind knocked out of him. obama trying to get control of his white house. a lot of internal memos where he says, mr. president, you need to get control of this building. when the economic advisers at treasury department disagree with the decisions, they tend to ignore them. obama, i think, has seized control of the building now, but it took a long time. >> i want ask you about the interview conducted. he said that he had learned. >> i think he learned how to run his white house. there was no management walking into this building, and he only managed his one-man journey. there is the most complex managerial organization on the planet, and there were a lot of old hands, mostly from bill clinton. obama says, i now have control. i am n

since the beginning of this administration, e.p.a. has issued or proposed a number of large, complex and expensive rules. the pace of these rulemaking is such that's not always clear, e.p.a. has fully considered or fully informed the public about the potential negative consequences of its actions on the united states economy, job creation and our ability to compete with countries around the world. i consider the decisions in the first weeks of the administration to pursue an endangerment findings for greenhouse gases. this form, the regulatory predicate for setting fuel efficiency standards for cars and trucks and e.p.a. estimated cost of about $60 billion. the president announced a prospect of this new regulation at a rose garden ceremony. but there was no public discussion about the fact that the new regulation also would have automatically triggered new permitting requirements required by the clean air act for all stationary sources of greenhouse gas emissions. these permitting requirements meant that 82,000 stationary sources annua

and we are equally indignant that the obama administration's apiecement has encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith. >> i don't think the obama administration encouraged the attitude of the palestinians. i think they are genuinely trying to promote peace and to bring both sides with all due deference to bring them together and to push it.

what is the program the administration as it approaches the u.n. and this ongoing problem which has perceived a long way down the trail but is close at hand? >> senator, the administration has been very clear that all of us hope for a two-state solution in middle east peace. a viable palestine and secure israel with clear borders. we do not believe that a u.n. resolution will get us to that place. and the secretary of state and the president are doing everything they can to make it clear to the world that we think that this is not a positive step forward should a resolution come to pass. my understanding from the state department is that there has been a very broad and very vig russ -- every capital in the world that this is high on the agenda for every meeting the secretary has with every world leader. today i understand that both special envoy, david hail, and ambassador dennis roth, are in the region. having a -- conversations with all parties to see if there is not a better way forward to resolve this issue. but there is no question that the pr

. >> ordinance amending the administrative code, limiting the hours of overtime work to 20% by any -- to 25% of regularly scheduled hours during a fiscal year. supervisor weiner: aye. supervisor avalos: no. supervisor campos: aye. president chiu: aye. supervisor chu: aye. supervisor cohen: aye. supervisor elsbernd: aye. supervisor farrell: aye. supervisor kim: aye. supervisor mar: aye. supervisor mirkarimi: aye. >> there are 10 ayes, 1 no. items nine through 13 are from the budget and finance committee without recommendation, the ordinance's implementing various changes to the memorandum of understanding between the city and the following organizations -- the firefighters local 798, the city police officers association, the municipal executives association, fire, and the city and police officers association. and one more between the city and the municipal executives association, police. president chiu: roll-call vote. supervisor weiner: aye. supervisor avalos: aye. supervisor campos: aye. president chiu: aye. supervisor chu: aye. supervisor cohen: aye. supervisor elsbernd: aye. superv

with that, i will have the joy of introducing one of my cabinet colleagues, administrator of the small business administration, karen gordon. [applause] >> welcome back thank you very much to administrator jackson and to all of you from method for having us here. it is a great pleasure to be here. i know this product, and it is even more impressive to see the hole and you have developed. met this is a great example of something that we all talk about, which is a green company that is turning innovation into jobs. as you know, we're focused right now on creating jobs here in america, and that involves benefit of small businesses. half of the people who work in america own or work for a small business. two out of every three new jobs are created by small business. what you have right in front of you is the tale of our greatest assets. you have two young men who got together as a roommates when they were 25. they are, as they tell me, from detroit. they're from entrepreneur real families to their families were in the automobile industry as entrepreneurs, and they are taking the best they

mary, why didn't the bush administration, and you served in the bush administration the first six years a majority in the house and the senate as well, why wasn't there any really significant effort to cut spending to pay for everything it was trying to do? >> there was a significant focus, as the vice president just said, on responding to 9/11, setting up homeland security department, which we worked with the democrats on, but also recalibrating the entire culture of washington to go from the pre-9/11 mind-set, which terrorism with the law enforcement issue, but there was and the vice president and you disagreed and we're going to disagree, wolf, on this, we don't think of tax cuts as costing anything, subsequent to the tax cuts put in place, particularly capital gains grew the economy, 5% growth on average for 52 consecutive months. that grew revenues, yes there were attempts to cut costs and spending but it was costly to respond to 9/11. also there was the enron debacle and rolling brownouts. >> hold on a second, mary, for all of that effort, all of the money that you spent on two wa

the american people heard the same thing when the administration was selling the first stimulus. only to turn on their television sets 2 1/2 years later to see the president having a big laugh over the fact that all these shovel-ready projects weren't quite as shovel-ready as they thought they were. so i would suggest, mr. president, that you think about ways to actually help the people of kentucky and ohio instead of how you can use their roads and bridges as a backdrop for making a political point. if you're truly interested in helping our state, if you really want to help our state, then come back to washington and work with republicans on legislation that will actually do something to revive our economy and create jobs and forget the political theater. mr. president, i yield the floor. under the previouofficer under s order, the leadership time is reserved. under the previous order, the senate will be in 00 period of morning business for one hour with senators permitted to speak therein for up to ten minutes each, with the time equally divided and controlled between the two l

under the understanding that has been put in place by the bush administration and the obama administration, the united states will complete its drawdown. you're on track to do that. we had 145,000 to 150,000 when president obama came into office. we now have about 45,000. those troops are on track to withdraw from iraq. that withdrawal will be complete by the end of the year. on the issue that you raised, like we do with countries all over the world, we will have a conversation with iraq about the nature of the security relationship we will have with them going forward in terms of the weapons systems, training and assistance, and things like that. those discussions are ongoing. bottom line, the united states is on track and will complete its withdrawal by december 31, 2011. with respect to the relationship going forward, that's a separate conversation that will take place. >> how many troops will we have in afghanistan by the time of the presidential election? >> the president -- well, when we came into office -- fewer. the afghan effort was really drifting strategically and other resource

the administration has done good work on this front. over the last 10 years, secretary lute, as you know we witness an evolving terrorist threat that's required the department and other agencies to constantly be thinking about tomorrow's threat appeared i like to say as a naval flight officer, work at it fighting glassware. were not always good at preparing to fight the next war. in my view, this is very likely -- could very well likely be the next war. on the cybersecurity front. nowhere is this more evident than in the world of cybersecurity on the wordpress can change almost daily almost weekly without a lot of notice. gao has noticed much of the good director or department is undertaking in this area. it's also -- gao has stated that homeland security needs to better secure internet connections at federal agencies and more thoroughly share cybersecurity information with the private secretary. none of secretary, i understand that department of homeland security has an einstein because federal agencies detect and prevent cyberintrusion

. >> understand the numbers determined by the administration. if you decide to one of 3000 next year, understanding us under the law you could. that is done by the state department and the number of considerations are taken into account. >> i think it is sort of an insult to our soldiers over there to say well, gap, sure, it's unsafe. soldiers are there protecting her customers,, but it's unsafe iraq is good to be the coming year. too bad insult to injury is not to be had them over here, we bring them over here and both of these people accused of terrorism in our country would've been in government housing on food stamps. and the 96 welfare reform bill, we said if you come here legally through immigration he wouldn't qualify for welfare. i think we should change that. does the administration of a position on refugees stratus admitted they should commune immediately be put on welfare? >> senator, can answer that question right now. i'll get back to you. >> we had a little girl in bowling green, to kentucky on "good morning america" that many peopl

>> well, i think it's something the administration is clearly sensitive to. explains in part why they are describing him so ardently as the chief external operations chief. the administration is going to great pains to explain his operational role. the fact that he was engaged in ongoing activity. all of that is a way of framing this in terms of imminent danger to the united states that then gives the u.s. credibility under international law and under our own laws to take self-defensive measures, and to take kinetic activities against an individual, even if that individual is an american citizen. but we've known this issue has been out there. the aclu had challenged awlaki's father, the alleged targeting of awlaki, a case they lost at the lower court level in federal court. so this issue of what the government can do with respect to an individual, an american citizen who has joined al qaeda, who is clearly trying to plot against the united states, what level of kinetic activity, what level of force can they use without some level of due process. that is clear

and in the bush administration. it remanding, give it back to epa is that i let this will stand because i don't want to lose the health benefits of this rule such that they are in the market because it's a market-based program. and while epa fixes a coming across a pollution rule is replacement for that rule. the reason that's important is because of the 13 to 34,000 premature deaths avoided in 400,000 avoided as my text. those are two of the significant and severe public health impacts that will be lost if we lose or delay those rules. >> the thank you for the work you're doing. >> gentlelady from tennessee, ms. black bird is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. that an administrator, thank you for being with us. there's been discussion about generalities and i want to talk with you about the specifics because we've had discussion of where it is the meets the road and how did these rules and regulations affect companies and affect employees? and i've got an example. this is the epa container rule

after all the bush administration rejected the loan to solyndra in the last couple of weeks of that administratione's the thing. the bush administration didn't do it. it was a credit committee made up of civil servants. it was the exact same committee that approved the loan application later. so, this is a lot of political posturing. >> wait a minute, kirsten. >> by republicans. >> no, no, no. not by republicans. >> how saw something was wrong with solyndra when, in fact, the credit committee. >> the obama administration is blaming bush. this is what they are doing. that's the talking point. >> what you just said was inaccurate. >> let me jump in here because we are talking about $500 million worth of taxpayer money that went to solyndra and now they turn around and fire 1100 workers and file bankruptcy shortly after getting the money. as you know, the president has put a lot of energy behind creating green jobs and to develop clean energy technology. i ask you, considering the solyndra scandal, does this impact the president's efforts? the taxpayers don't care if it's 1% of a program or 10% of a

some say because solyndra has ties to the obama administration. heir jobs when the company went bankrupt. thanks, lisa. good reporting. >>> the controversy is already becoming fodder out there on the republican presidential campaign trail. congresswoman and candidate michele bachmann blasted the obama administration over it. >> what did the stimulus give us last time? >> nothing! >> well -- hey, it gave -- debt, okay. it gave us solyndra. wasn't that great? we got solyndra. $535 million, as a matter of fact, i got a quote from our vice president, joe biden, and you know he's never wrong. and this is what he said. he said that the loan guarantee for solyndra was exactly what the stimulus act is all about. that's the truth. that's the truth. >> let's dig deeper with cnn contributor john avalon. how much of a potential, john, does this have to really substantively hurt the obama administration? >> it sure doesn't help, wolf. you know the power of narrative and politics and you're seeing solyndra sin nynonymous for government waste and crony capitalism

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