objection from the american civil liberties union. records obtain bid the aclu of northern california show sheriff greg ahon received bids for the drone back in august with the stated purpose of intelligence gathering and surveillance. >> we have nothing yet on paper that will bind the sheriff impose written and personal safeguards and mechanisming to prevent public abuses. >> to think we would go an use an unmanned aerial system for civilian surveillance is inaccurate. >> reporter: ahern says the surveillance would be used primarily for search and rescue. a vote is now expected early next year. >>> president obama appears to be winning support for his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy to help deal with the so called fiscal cliff. ktvu's rita williams reports on

you've got the american civil liberties union, americans for tax reform, electronic frontierg foundation. you've got people across the political spec drum and 95 companies that might otherwise be suing each other sometimes. there's apple, microsoft, at&t,g intel, adobe, a lot of the largu companies in this space are behind this legislation. i think it has a lot of energy behind it. the bill coming out of committee with a good, strong bipartisan support is going to strength in the coalition, strengthened the effort. i agree that there needs to be more discussion of this legislation. there needs to be hearings early next year. but i think we have a good starting point now in a good place from which to move forward. >> host: konrad motyka, how often in your job to use the e-mail searches or cell phone searches? >> guest: my primary experience has been in the investigation of organized crime and narcotics. i personally haven't made tremendous use of that as a tool in that particular arena. so i don't want to put myself out there someone who uses it all the time. if i could address briefly wh

you have the american civil liberties union. you get people from across the political spectrum in people that might otherwise be suing each other. there is apple. microsoft. at&t. but in the large companies are behind this. i think it has a lot of energy behind it. the bill coming out of committee is good, strong, bipartisan support and will strengthen the effort. i agree that there needs to be more discussion of this legislation. there needs to be hearings early next year. i think we have a good starting point. >> konrad motyka, how often in your job do you use the e-mails surges are cell phone searches -- searches or the cell phone searches? >> i am primarily in narcotics. i've not made the use of that as a tool in that particular arina. i do not want to put myself out there that uses it all the time. by could address what was said earlier. more concerns were brought to the debate fairly late. there is a bipartisan consensus to take a look at this and address it. i hope some of the law enforcement concerns will be taken into ac

that makes any sense for national security of the united states. >> chris anders from the american civil liberties union so much. appreciate you spending some time with us this saturday. >> thank you. >>> the white house just one of the places that is marking the 25th anniversary of world aids day. coming up, we will look at one campaign that is saving lives, literally all over the world. >>> plus, after the romney/ryan defeat in the presidential election, the republican party is finding their religion as they face the future. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics, even on a saturday. ♪ that's me in the spotlight, losing my religion ♪ and we can save you 10% on ground shipping over the ups store. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later, not so much. this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. but first you've got to get him to say, "hello." new crest 3d white arctic fresh toothpaste. use it with these 3d white products, and whiten your teeth in just 2 days. new crest 3d wh

preaching peace," and, of course, the person met jesus, but someone complained, and the american civil liberties union got involved, and the prosecution was droppedded. more recently, the -- a film company owner tried to name his company i choose hell productions, and was denied in corporation under the state's incorporation laws because it was a blasphemy title for the company, and that, too, eventually was dismissed. >> host: professor gordon, why did it start to change in the early 20th century in >> -- >> guest: i think for several reasons m one was especially the growth of the federal government in the new deal era. the other, really, was that the embrace of migration and pluralism, and immigration began to cease a little bit after the restrictive immigration acts of the early 20th century, and then the new deal forced so many people on to the move. the -- looking for work, having much greater contact with government, and the expansion of government power really highlighted the friction between a bigger government and lives of believers. there was a lot more attention. >> host: you write about th

the american civil liberties union got involved pretty quickly and the prosecution was dropped. four recently, a film company owner tried to name his company might choose harold productions and was denied under, denied the incorporation under the states in the corporation law because it was a blasphemous title for the company that was dismissed. sec'y you think it started to change in the early 20th century? >> ready for several different reasons. one, especially with the growth of the federal government in the new deal era and the other was the embrace of migration and parallel some that immigration began to seize a little bit after the restrictive immigration act of the early 20th century into the new deal forced so many people on to the move and looking for work have a much greater contact with government and the extension of government power really highlighted the friction between a bigger government and the lives so there was a lot of tension. sinecure right about the salvation army to read what is about the role role of the salvation army and changing the role in the u.s..

however, the american civil liberties union is worried that the police could also use the remote controlledcraft to spy on local residents. but the shares the promises that they have no intention of using the drones in that way. >> we are learning new detail on a man who was killed in the south bay as police continue to search for his killer. 66 year-old millionaire venture decapolis raveesh kumra was murdered when a home invasion in the upscale neighborhood of multi sarah reno last friday. police say that kumra was found dead inside his 7000 square foot home by his estranged wife. his wife was the one who called up toward san that the house had been ransacked. the los gatos police department described kumra's killer as a man in his early 20s white or hispanic about 6 ft. tall. >> an oca medical marijuana does the necessary has won the first round in his legal fight to stay open and that a federal crackdown. a judge ruled last week that the landlord for harborside health centers cannot evict the stock despite the u.s. attorney's brest to seize the property. but the judge says, because the s

. >>> groups and the american civil liberties union objecting to government use of unmanned surveillanceraft within the united states. >> this debate has now come to alameda county. why the sheriff's department wants one of the things, and why some object. >> opponents call them drones. the sheriff zbt doesn't like that term because of the military connotation perhaps, but for this story%3ls're going to call them unmanned military vaeks. this is the -- 31,000 unmanned aerial vehicle. neat machine according to critics. >> just the cutest toy i can imagine. >> susan told the supervisors she's opposed to the device, aclu attorney called it a threat to privacy. >> just because we walk out, walk outdoors sometimes doesn't mean we sur ren yernd the right to make sure the government doesn't collect and stockpile personalized information about our whereabouts. >> saying an inexpensive system is different than a sheriff's department. -- helicopter because of the low cost. aclu fears afford yablt will lead to abuse. and as for low cost cameras? they're on buildings, street lights and stores and th

. >> the american civil liberties union does not believe that the emmy account shares of what also use a remote control aircraft spots on local residents. kron fours reporter has the story. >> you may not see it as it flies over your home or backyard recording your every move. that is what is alleged that could happen if the element sheriff's office is allowed to use strong. >> this is video of the shares office introducing the public to the aircraft in october. this was said about the drought and privacy concerns back then. >> search and rescue missions bonds what caused, persons with firearms, rule areas that are not easily assess why patrol cars. those kinds of situations. we have at robots and our bomb squad and swat teams were 10 years. they are remote controlled we do not rows down the streets of a people. >> the documents obtained by the aclu which approved $31,000 in grant money for the drop says, the aerial units will be used for " intelligent and information sharing and dissemination planning. >> in another document referring to the drones on the alameda county sheriff's offi

however, the american civil liberties union alleges there is more in the plans than just search and rescue.. the group says the alameda county sheriff's office could also use the remote controlled aircraft and as, kron 4's reggie kumar tells us, the a-c- l-u claims, it has the documents to prove it.. you may not see it as it flys over your home or backyard snapping pictures of your every move. that's what the aclu alleges could happen, if the alameda county sheriff's office is allowed to use these unmanned drones. the aclu says it obtained these documents from the sheriff's office through a california public records act, and they show the sheriff's office will do hamadi grant was received in october half approving the grant request for intelligence gathering and terrorism prevention but that is not a search of rescue. more with these flying aircraft than what it has told the public and the alameda county board of supvisors. alcu attorney linda lye says the board was expected to vote on the during tuesday night's pulled from the agenda. >> it received a grant from the california emergency m

enforcement purposes would you were getting through place electronic frontier foundation the american civil liberties union to stand up and say look let's think about this once or twice before you go ahead and just give these police departments access to these remote control spy machines but at the same time it seems like it really is just going to be inevitable i mean today i know this is completely different different target or tangent but today we saw the for intelligence surveillance act renewed for another five years and that's something that it seems every privacy advocate in america was concerned about and they were all just urging congress to go the other way and despite you know years and years of criticism congress went ahead and renewed it anyway so and we're not really hearing too much about it but we are going to get to that later on in the show andrea thanks so much for weighing and that was our huge lead producer and her blake. also out here on r.g.p. despite the last ditch effort from several u.s. senators the warrantless wiretapping bill known as fights has been extended what this means fo

it is a major consumer issue as you can image the american civil liberties union is saying protect these we didn't abandon the e-mails because they are 6 months old. >> we have republican bob good lad. he says the bill deserves careful protection for consumer's privacy while modernizing the laws to empower consumers to do more with video consumption preferences. >> i love press releasing they are wonderful. bottom line as it relates to people who are watching it briefly historically robert walkways a supreme court nominee. what they did is do it without his consent. they made a bill that said if you want to release what we are viewing and watching you have to get the consumer's consent to do that. there's a provision that doesn't require consent. you as a consumer automatically you can share what tv shows you are watching, what videos you would like to see. >> it is two separate issues they tried to combine them into one. >> it's congress. you know they do that. >> thank you so much joe jackson. appreciate seeing you this morning. >> good to see you. happy holidays. >> to you, too. >> it

activists welcome the policy change claiming current legislation is too aggressive the american civil liberties unionoday say reforms still don't go far enough. reading this the reforms do nothing to address the basic constitutional problem that led to the needless unlawful detention of both u.s. citizens and nonu.s. citizens alike with racial profiling and policing and counting on county dimes. whether you disagree with the new york policy or not the white house needs to do an awful lot more work to get the immigration right. >> the fridays before christmas we will talk about it more in the news. >>> a robbery caught on tape but the target is by no means random. this robber knew exactly what he was after and how to get it. also a young survivor of a mall shooting talking for the first time about coming face to face with a killer. and what she has to say about the gunman may surprise you. reliving the experience in her own words. plus, nooefrz get ol-- these ner get old. our heros welcomed. coming home american warriors merry christmas to the brave men and women who serve their nation and to the fami

the purchase of a surveillance drone for the sheriff's office after an objection from the american civil liberties unionds obtain bid the aclu of northern california show sheriff greg ahon received bids for the drone back in august with the stated purpose of intelligence gathering and surveillance. >> we have nothing yet on paper that will bind the sheriff impose written and personal safeguards and mechanisming to prevent public abuses. >> to think we would go an use an unmanned aerial system for civilian surveillance is inaccurate. >> reporter: ahern says the surveillance would be used primarily for search and rescue. a vote is now expected early next year. >>> president obama appears to be winning support for his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy to help deal with the so called fiscal cliff. ktvu's rita williams reports on the court of public opinion and why it may not be enough. >> reporter: what do you think? will the president in congress send the country plunging over the fiscal cliff. >> i don't think they'll reach it. i don't know what they will do then. >> i am hoping and praying they do. come

he's the lead lawyer for the american civil liberties union in what could be a landmark case against enetics and the u.s. patent office. the case has the support of nearly the entire medical establishment that deals with genetics. >> all of those people are saying, "the patents in this case hurt women's health." >> hansen says that myriad's patents are unconstitutional and should be invalidated. >> there's a longstanding patent law doctrine that says you can't patent the laws of nature and products of nature and abstract ideas. and that's what happens when you patent genes. >> but what was the rationale of the patent office in approving this? >> that isolating and purifying the gene is so transformative that it makes it a different thing. >> but it's still not an invention? >> they would say that by taking it out of your body and stripping away some of the pieces, they--it's no longer a product of nature. it's now an invention. we think that's nonsense. if myriad develops a new drug, a new treatment, a new test, they can get a patent, and they should be able to get a patent. what they

the american civil liberties union today says that reforms still don't go far enough. a statement from them reading this, the reforms do nothing to address this most basic constitutional problem that has led to the needless unlawful detention of both u.s. citizens aen noncitizens alike, and whether you agree with the new policy or not, harris, the white house needs to do an awful lot more work to get immigration right. >> harris: all right, they gave it to us the friday before christmas, but still makes the news. we'll talk about it more about this, thank you. a robbery caught on tape, but the target is by no means random. it seems like he knew how to get it. the young survivor of a mall shooting talks about the first time coming face-to-face with a killer and what she has to say about the gunman may surprise you. reliving the experience in her own words. plus, these never get old. our heroes welcome, coming home, our american warriors, merry christmas to the brave men and women who serve our nation and to their families. ♪ ♪ try running four.ning a restaurant is hard,

this move comes at the american civil liberties union and other groups raised concerns. e unmanned aerial system would be used for search and rescue missions in tactical operations. but the aclu argues sheriff officials are planning to use the drone to spy on people. off the boards of revises were scheduled to vote yes today on a grant to help pay for the drones but the controversy topic has been moved to a committee hearing in january. the petaluma city council unanimously passed an ordinance that bans smoking in apartments and other units of multifamily dwellings, as well as in hotels and motels. the ordinance also bans outdoor smoking in areas including bus stops, dining areas, recreation facilities, and out eidetside a designated smoking areas at public events. the ordinance will take effect on august 1, 2013, at buildings still under construction on january 1, 2014 at existing housing units, hotels and motels. >> the sow for cisco municipal transportation agency has approved free muni ride the the san francisco municipal transportation agency has approved free muni r

. >>> back here at home, the american civil liberties union will challenge plans to use u.s. rone plans. the aclu will argue that it can prove that the sheriff's office would use the drone to spy on people as well. >>> a judge ruled that the first amendment rights of mental health professionals outweigh the concern that the practice is a danger to young people. the law was supposed to take effect on january 1st. but the judge put the law on hold until he can hold a few trial. >>> it is 7:52. two bay area companies are hoping to finance a new study on the nutritional value of organic foods. cliff bar and annie's are supporters of organic foods. now they are putting money into research about how they affect the environment. >>> snickers will soon have few -- smokers will soon have fewer places to light up. last night, the city approved a tough new ban on smoking places. it also expands the current ordinance in petaluma and that ban includes housing unis and -- units and parks. >>> the state is holding millions of dollars but no one has claimed it. the state has about $14 million

however, the american civil liberties union is worried that the police could also use is remote controlleds on local residents. but the shares to promises they have no intention of using the drums and that way. >> we are learning new detail on the men who was killed and the south bay as police continued to search for his killer. his 66 year- old millionaire venture capitalist raveesh kumra was murdered dornan home invasion and of still never mud of monterey sereno last friday. his wife was the one who called up story same that the house had been ransacked. the los gatos police department described kumra's as a man in his early 20s white or hispanic about 6 ft. tall. >> oakland police have made an arrest in connection to a case involving an at risk teen girl, who walked away from a group home last week. the 16 year-old, who was considered at risk because of her diminished mental capacity walked away from the french home in oakland last tuesday. the girl was found to this letter in sampras's go. police have not release the name of the person in custody or any further details about the case.

. >> this move comes after the american civil liberties union and other groups raise concerns. >> eight of kidnapping, beating and raping and at risk scene is behind bars this morning. 36 year-old gary atkinson is under arrest. he is facing multiple felony charges involving an at risk a girl who au say, has the mental capacity of a 9 to 12 year old child. she was found two days later on at muni tried in san francisco. surveillance video from a bart train was used to identify the suspect. officers captured him sunday night. the 16 year-old girl is back with her family members. >> police in berkeley are investigating an accident that happened last night. a car crashed into the east market liquor store at san paulo and haskell street around 9:30 p.m. last night. a woman who was shopping in the store was injured and taken to a local hospital. no word yet on what caused the driver to crash into the store. >> you could see the southbound ride on the golden gate bridge is still stopped. george will have more when we return. >> welcome back. the golden gate bridge is having a problem. chp is re

and i said well, why don't you suggest to stephen that he contacted the american civil liberties union? and that's how we started, in the district court. it wasn't a question of putting on evidence. the facts were all undisputed. but arguing the point that this law which was described as beneficial to women, after all widows had the benefit, disadvantaging album and. that all such laws, the root of the discrimination was against the woman. [inaudible] paid social security taxes just like the rest of us. but they didn't gain for her family the same protection as the family of a male wage earner who have paid into social security. so the discrimination begins with the woman, and then the man, because he is, his role as parent rather than breadwinner, doesn't get the benefit. there was a unanimous judgment of the supreme court in that case. and by the way, we got it from the district court, from the court of first instance, to the supreme court, before he reached his third birthday. and that is record speed for federal litigation. anyway, the court reach a unanimous verdict, divided three

into buying a drone before the safeguards are in place, before the county has decided it should get a drone. >> american civil liberties union spoke out against the drone plan today just before the alameda county board of supervisors took up the issue. the sheriff hopes to buy an unmanned aerial system or drone using a state grant. it has hd video and infrared capabilities. the sheriff says it would be used ford sent and rescue, natural disaster response and to pursue suspects. the aclish says it's worried about the big brother effect. >> we have nothing yet on paper that will bind the sheriff, impose written enforceable safeguards and account abilities mechanisms to prevent privacy abuses. >> it's law enforcement's job to protect people's privacy. to think we would use an unmanned aerial system for civilian surveillance is inaccurate. >> opponents worry the drone would be used to spy on occupy protesters. the sheriff says the drone would only be use fire department a crowd became violent or dangerous. the county board of supervisors today sent the drone proposal to the public protection committee for approval. a final decis

the opposition to this kind of assisted outpatient treatment? >> very strong opposition to civil liberties, aclu, american civil liberties union? >> a here in washington has been a major impediment and a lot of people believe that nobody should be treated involuntarily. well, that flies in the face of the fact that we treat people with active tuberculosis involuntarily when they won't take medicine. we also restrict people who have alzheimer's disease and don't know they're sick. so, we do this for other conditions, but we have a lot of trouble thinking through this clearly for people with severe mental illness. >> paul: you mentioned in your op-ed for us, the number of activity psychiatric beds has declined from more than half a million to fewer than 50,000. i guess this is part of that movement you're describing against incarcerating the mentally ill, but you're saying that that decline in those beds has endangered the american public? >> it has, because if you try to get somebody who needs hospitalization into a hospital today, it's virtually impossible. as one of my colleagues says, it's easier to get somebody into harvard t

the supervisors and sheriff came under pressure by privacy advocates including american civil liberties uniond city officials said to meet to consider permits for repairing the damaged portion of the chevron refinery. the pipeline ruptured in august, causing an explosion, huge fire. the chronicle reports chevron says it will have to layoff 600 workers by thursday. the company wants to replace destroyed pipe with a metal alloy. critics pressuring chevron to use stainless steel. corrosion is considered the likely cause of the explosion. >> customers of three credit card companies can expect extra cash incoming days or weeks. american express, discover and capitol one owe $435 million to six million customers part of a crack down on deceptive credit card practices. >> there is you know, shaking down bad banks and this card, get some money that, kind of thing. now, they're paying back. the man caught them, some people could see as much as $300 credited to their statements. >> customers not required to take any action. current card holders will receive a credit on their j% receive checks in the ma

markey: for anyone who is listening, the american civil liberty opposes this, the consumer union, the liberty coalition opposes this. the patients privacy act coalition opposes this. and the reason is this. you sign up with a bank 10 years ago, megabank inner corps rated, they send you -- incorporated, they send you a privacy notice. then every year for the next 10 years they buy a new entity that locks right in as an affiliate and you've signed off on everything they do but they don't have to notify you that this new entity is going to have a totally new use for that information. but you're supposed to have, in 2002, have already been notified. moreover, ladies and gentlemen, why can't they just email this notice each year to people? why can't they just email it to people? here's your privacy. and every year it goes out, no trees chopped down, nothing done that affects the environment, just everybody gets the email, each year. here's your privacy rights. and it goes in a separate email so that everyone is really getting the opportunity to single it out. the speaker pro tempore: the g

the county he lives in. zimmerman was charged with second degree murder after shooting martin in february he has pleaded not guilty, claiming self-defense under florida's stand your ground law. >> american civil liberties union will ask organization of american states to investigate u.s. government for the way it treated convicted terrorist jose dill the aclu says he was -- jose little . the aclu says he was subjected to intimidation that amounted to torture. the watchdog group says the u.s. unfairly labeled padilla an enemy combatant. >>> new fbi report shows incidents of hate crime are going down, anti-gay violence is up. fbi says more than 6,000 hate crimes were reported to u.s. law enforcement last year, down 6% from the previous year. sexual orientation hate crimes went up to more than 1500 in 2011, increase of more than 2 1/2%. >>> in morning federal reserve has its eye on the fiscal live. new bonding program to support the economy. the plan is not a rescue option if there is no agreement on avoiding automatic tax hikes and spending cut nose deal. no outward progress between the white house and republicans now. >>> in morning the air force will conduct another test flight of new experimental space plan

and the leadership council and american civil liberties union, without objection, no objection, the hearing record will be held open for one week for additional statements, written questions may be sent your way to witnesses at the close of business one week from today, spent christmas eve and christmas day completing the questionnaire and get back to us. we will ask the witnesses to respond promptly so we complete the record in depth there are no further comments from the panel or colleagues i think the witnesses for attending and colleagues for participating. the hearing stands adjourned. [inaudible conversations] >> c-span spoke with two retiring lawmakers. congressman dan burton and senator kent conrad. mr. burton, an indiana republican, served in congress for 30 years end-1990s chaired the house oversight committee. senator conrad, a north dakota democrat has been in office 20 years and chairs the senate budget committee. our interview with congressman burton is at 8:00 eastern tonight and senator conrad follows at 8:30. the house and senate are back in session tomorrow. the senate is

the violation of civil liberties. even lincoln would argue, i have to get those troops to washington. if i didn't get them to washington, the union wouldn't have stayed. fdr is told somehow the japanese-americans are going to be coming in from california to detroit to take over the country. but as thurgood marshall, the supreme court justice, once said, those are precisely the moments when civil liberties matter most and when you have to be careful. and all those presidents suffer in history. eleanor roosevelt said about the incarceration of the japanese-americans, and fdr's failure to bring more jewish refugees into the country before hitler closed the door forever, those were his scars. she knew that. i think lincoln if he came back now would know his scar was that he wished he didn't have to do the habeas corpus. war takes -- it grows on itself and you do everything you need to. it's a sad, dark chapter. >> and the human element, jefferson used this when he talked about buying louisiana, which was unconstitutional, and he was -- >> detail. >> he was for the constitutional amendment before he was against it. he was going to amend the constitution to buy the louisiana purchase. then he got a

putting that aside, one of the arguments against keeping it in the bill was made by the american civil liberties uniontely no substantiation for them, including the one just referred to by senator mccain. but the statement that he makes that there is language in this bill -- here's the bill. where's the senator from kentucky? what page of the bill is he referring to? the language that he says denies people the right to trial. it's just simply not there, and i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the senator from arkansas. mr. pryor: i'm going to try to keep my remarks to about five minutes here. i would first, though, like to thank senators levin and mccain for their leadership on this legislation. they really set the tone and they've been good role models for the entire senate on how legislation should be conducted. so i want to thank both of them. i think men of my colleagues feel the very same way, that they appreciated how we've -- appreciate how we've handled the defense authorization. it's a massive undertaking and sometimes as we know we have a lot of gridlock around here but because of the