there could be a few elephants in the room let's talk to ron unz he's the publisher of the american conservative magazine joining us live there in the states so lots to discuss concerning the strategics and economics let's talk about strategy first china has not held back in opposing u.s. foreign policy recently both on north korea and syria will hillary clinton try and get the chinese to give some ground on these issues or or is that a lost cause well that certainly seems plausible and that certainly would be one of her aims it's not clear to me whether the chinese will make those sorts of concessions given their very strong economic position right now and the vast amount of dependence america has and sewing it to the chinese talking about that debt what something like one trillion dollars of u.s. public debt there in china can the u.s. really be in any way confrontational or put pressure on china bearing that aspect in mind well from a rational point of view america is obviously in a weak position for that reason but a lot of american leaders seem to not recognize those realities are still thinking tha

. >> and now, contributing editor of the american conservative magazine, and washington correspondent for talk radio news service, and i am jon scott and "fox news watch," is on right now. >> the last three years the tide has turned. we broke the taliban's momentum. we built strong afghanistan security forces. and we devastated al qaeda's leadership taking out over 20 of their top 30 leaders. a year ago, from the base here in afghanistan, our troops launched the operation that killed osama bin laden. the goal i set to defeat al qaeda and deny a chance to rebuild is in owe reap. >> president obama from the bagram air force base in afghanistan, and he secretly flew this and signed a deal with the afghanistan government on how the united states will proceed from this point forward. he took the opportunity, also, to mark one year since the death of osama bin laden and critics accuse the president of politicizing bin laden's death as did mitt romney. >> let's not make the capture of the killing of bin laden a politically divisive events. there are plenty of differents between president oba

jim pinkerton, the american conservative magazine and political commentator sally kohn. i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. no wonder that faith in our institutions has never been lower, particularly when good news doesn't get the same kind of ratings as bad news anymore. for every day you receive a steady stream of sensationalism and scandal, and stories with a message that suggest change is impossible. that you can't make a difference, that you won't be able to close the gap between life as it is and life as you want it to be. >> president obama on monday delivering had an address to graduates of barnard college, telling them not to trust the media. he sounds like a president who thinks the media doesn't love him. >> ignore what's going on in europe, 8% unemployment. just listen to me and be happy. you know, it is pretty astonishing how the president can complain about things like that when romney, you know, gets kicked around over something he had nothing to do with, rickets super pac add and "the washington post" diagnose its part to help out, has a headli

we go back to last december there was a report in the american conservative magazine by the ex cia field officer put it the rowdy who's talking about this sort of thing happening and of course if we don't believe president assad well what about the words of a leader of al qaeda who's called. radical muslims around the globe to come you know quite the what he calls the concerts regime in damascus so that's the situation though washington is denying media reports in the washington post of indirect involvements and smuggling arms through to the syrian rebels what reaction do you expect to that considering the vehement anti assad sentiment of the u.s. i do that we can take it seriously because of course of course america is going to deny having any involvement in this that the truth is the mathematics is the usa and saudi arabian house has been involved in trying to be stabilized the damascus regime and bring about regime change and they're doing everything they possibly can to destroy the peace plan you know millions of dollars of weaponry going into syria and backing terrorists as i said f

will trade talks but there could be a few elephants in the room ron unz publisher of the american conservative magazine who's washington is guilty of believing its own propaganda and forgets it isn't the only big world power. well from a rational point of view america is obviously in a weak position for that reason but a lot of american leaders seem to not recognize those realities are still thinking that america is in the position it was ten or fifteen or twenty years ago the enormously dominant world superpower and that just is not the case anymore they're a lie and on us to the extent that they lend us a lot of money and send us their goods in return for pieces of paper the point is the chinese are actually moving themselves much more towards the domestic consumer development economy they're talking about building i believe thirty five million new public housing apartments in the next few years they're really doing a lot of internal development as well so in a few years down the road if america's not buying as much many chinese goods and can't afford to buy as many chinese goods that he may not matt

let's talk about jim pinkerton for the american conservative magazine, alan coomes is host of the alan it's great to live in a country where you're free to protest things like this. >> i think so! jon: what are they protesting, what are they angry about and how are the media doing? >> they are protesting the war, he with had veterans throwing their metals down symbolically on the ground over the weekend and they are protesting wars in iraq which has thankfully winded down and a war in afghanistan that goes on and ten years hence will be money going to that. that's among the things protested. and by the way, the protestors are often in sync with the way most of america feels about these particular issues. jon: certainly? >> -- really? >> certainly the war in afghanistan, absolutely. i don't know jon do you agree, jim? >> there's no question that the public opinion has shifted pretty dramatically on the afghanistan war in the last year or so, ever since the afghans started -- started shooting american soldiers. let's not kid ourselves here, the media love a colorful protest and if you ge

the u.s. embassy harbored a chinese dissident activist china has also irritated every u.s. military buildup in asia pacific region. publisher of american conservative magazine says u.s. leaders don't realize washington is actually in a weak position at this stage. hobbies lou the chinese are not very happy at those developments and i think insight to some extent america's actions are much more provocative than they might be but from another perspective the chinese economy is growing in her normas pace and the american economy is not so it's perfectly rational for the chinese leaders to in effect except these two print papers on america's side and just realize that another five or ten years the chinese position will be enormously stronger relative to america than it is today given their very strong economic position right now and the vast amount of dependence america has in selling its debt to the chinese from a rational point of any america's obviously in a weak position for that reason but a lot of american leaders seem to not recognize those realities or is still thinking that america is in a position it was ten or fifteen or twenty years ago the enormous

the american spectator was having a lot of problems, it was a venerable amazing that, again, a conservative magazine that i thought deserved to be rebuilt, and i thought it would be a challenge for me to do it, and i've been doing it for four years, and it's now back on its feet and successful. >> still editor? >> bob is still the editor, yes, we work closely together. >> to whom did you sell regnery? >> well, we had actually sold it about ten years before i left to tom phillips, eagle publishing is the company that controls it, still does, and when we had done that sale back in -- about ten years before i left, i guess, then i stayed on as president and publisher after that until i left. >> in the title of your book, al regnery, you went from publisher to writer, you use the word ascendance of american conservatives, why? >> well, the thesis of the book is the conservative movement, starting, as i mention, from pretty much nothing in 1945 to where it is today is certainly an ascendance. the uphill part of the title designates it's always been a struggle. there's always been a pretty strong counterf

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the federal level. that's what we are arguing about. jon: jim pinkerton is contributinged tore and writer for american conservative magazine. do you think the archbishop has it right when he says the suit is not about contraception, it's about religious liberty? >> i'm not sure i agree with that. i think that contraception is something that should be offered to every woman. jon: but you're not catholic i'm guessing. >> no i am definitely not catholic. but, you know, i think that there is no reason on earth it shouldn't be offered to everybody. you don't have to take it. if it's against your conscience you don't have to take it. it's like, you know, i'm off of meat, i'm a vegetarian, i don't have to eat it. jon: then who is supposed to pay for this contraception that you want offered to everybody? >> well, i think that health insurance can pay for it. jon: okay. all right. jim i guess we get to the nuts and bolts of the argument right there. what do you think of the archbishop's argument? >> i think it's an interesting argument, and i think ellen has an interesting counter argument. what is most interesting, though is that we

the black americans. what do you make of this cover, alan? i mean is that taking it a step too far or are they trying to sell magazines. >> they are saying andrew sullivan is a gay conservativeagazines. obviously time magazine had a provocative cover last month, newsweek is competing, and they are being equally provocative. we are talking about it so i guess they've done their job, right? jon: i guess so. andrew sullivan did use that term. i'll get jim's reaction on the other side. >> i was steeled. i said i don't care, he's going to disappoint us again. and then i sat down and watched our president tell me that i am his equal. that i'm no longer outside, i'm fully part of this family. and to hear the president, who is in some ways a father figure speak to that, the tears came down like w-pl people in our families. jon: all right. so that's andrew sullivan. is this -- is this more about that, jim, or is it tina brown, the well-known editor of newsweek just pushing people's buttons? >> i would say it's a complete harmonic convergence of a desire to sell magazines and get attention with a kind of outra outrage just and strictly speaking untrue cover, and then also the kind of