their way into city hall caused thousands of damn dollars worth of damage and even burned to the american flag at the heart of the occupy movement and from its inception has been the notion of using peaceful protest and nonviolent struggle as a means to achieve greater equality within american society however over the course of history every form of peaceful protest has spun off a more radical violent faction typically a very small faction and the same is sadly true with the occupy and these radical factions to their use of violence and destruction undermine the very principles of the movement themselves and put a stain on those members who continue to use peaceful protests to accomplish their goals so how does the occupy movement best deal with this problem tina tupac joins me now she is a syndicated op-ed columnist for the managing editor of crooks and liars tina welcome. thanks tom thanks for having me thanks for joining us and i hope i said your last name right to point it was close thank you very much i understand you've been to eight occupies in two countries you've written about it exte

up in the morning and i saw the now iconic very recognizable picture of the occupiers burning the american flag on the steps of city hall after it had been broken into and my first reaction was that is what their enemies should have photo shopped in order to discredit them and here they are doing it to themselves. and if you have five thousand people who shut down the ports of oakland and you have two people breaking windows it turns into five thousand people who broke some windows so i guess it absolutely tate's their. the entire movement but also you destroy your moral authority when you start using these tactics you can't go after you know the illegal tactics are these somewhat legal tactics of the banks and these these other. things that they have risen up against when you yourself are going and doing graffiti and breaking things it just doesn't first of them ascend to peaceably assemble and petition your government if you've got a gross of grass' right and so in what they're doing and burning the american flag is absolutely protected speech but breaking into city hall and causing property

. >> very frankly, it was very hard to take down the american flag for the last time from the american embassy. it is a symbol of our presence. it is a symbol of our engagement in a country like syria. >> reporter: ambassador, what are you seeing and hearing is going on in syria today? >> i spent a good part of the day looking at what's happening in syria. and the shelling again by syrian forces on residential areas in syria's third largest city homs is just absolutely awful. it's horrific. we want that government violence to stop before syria goes off a cliff. >> reporter: significantly, you have declassified and posted on your facebook page at least one satellite image of the artillery, the mortars showing that this is an army up against a much less-armed civilian insurrection. >> the syrian government claims terrorists are shelling parts of homs are completely ridiculous. we know who is shelling homs. we know that. i do not want the syrian government to try through some propaganda scheme to try to hide the truth. >> reporter: your message finally to the people in syria who must feel

floor of the main gearly -- gallery at the american history museum, the most visited museum in the world, there is george washington to the left, the american flage middle, and the kiprusoffy collection to the right. and i just want you to know that because you know, luis was trying to tell you who the kinseys are and you know what? you need to know who's speaking to you so sometimes you sit up a little bit better and you listen, but we are very grounded in what we're doing and we've lived in san francisco back in the 1970's. we ran a million square feet for der -- xerox out of south san francisco. we ran the oakland branch in oakland for three years there where i had 100 black folks working for me in 1977, just so you know. so we got our roots in the right place. we got our hearts in the right place. and it's a joy to be here in san francisco at this beautiful building here in city hall. i want to thank the supervisor cohen and aughtle supervisors, catchose and others that are here. you get a feel ream quickly whether or not a city really gets it if the mayor -- mayor shows up and the supervisors show up you know what i mean? because if they do

and then to top of it, to burn the american flag on the american soymeal is incomprehensible query inter: this house when jordan was in a luncheon at the time said those two incidents have sparked outrage across the nation. reexamine i have received more complaints from around country flies to with his caucus went if all around the country about that particular act. >> -that he what we can do to make a plea stagnating for gentile all weapons at our faces. van we plan to hold people accountable. >>reporter: what he has dedicated to investigating to deal with complaints from occupy oakland and she said that his colt who i that i've seen how protesters and realized that they can march peacefully in protest peacefully but he says that almost-- >>reporter: we are learning new information that we brought you last night live on our newscast according >>reporter: the 49ers hit another bigmouthed own. the nfl announced that it has approved a $200 billion loan to help fund the project. with this the last piece of funding needed to finish the billion dollar stadium. >>jacqueline: here is a live

they spent 50 years under the american flag. most of it away from the united states. they had a more national outlook. a more national perspective, i think, than some other counterparts. that's especially true in the case of drayton compared with his brother, thomas. >> what was he doing for the remainder of the year? >> he was in command of the blockade fleet. the confederates evacuated pensacola so he spent most of his time establishing a new naval base at pensacola building back up the naval base that confederates seized in early 1861 in order to provide a closer base for the operation of his blockade fleet. in the fall of 1862, he oversaw the occupation of galveston. another naval operation entirely. confederates recaptured it on january 1st, 1863. for the last three months of 1862, it was another naval base for the union fleet blockading the coast of texas. the main job in remainder of 1862 was to strengthen the blockade. he wanted to move against mobile but for reasons beyond his control the government put off that and kept putting it off until of course the sum

although he had served under the american flag for half a century and had fought in the war of 1812 and the mexican war under that flag, a similar record was true of other southern born officers who chose to go with the confederacy. ferigate had been born and raised in tennessee, had married a woman from virginia. after his first wife died he married another virginia woman in 1843. when he was not at sea he lived in norfolk. he had a brother in new orleans and a sister in mississippi. as a sectional conflict heated up he said to friends in virginia, god forbit i should ever have to raise my hand against the south. but when abraham lincoln called out the militia after the confederates attacked fort sumter he expressed approval. his virginia neighbors told him anyone holding this opinion could not continue to live in norfolk. well, then, i can live somewhere else. he decided to move to new york. he told his wife this act of mine may cause years of separation from your family so you must decide quickly whether you will go north or remain here. she went with him. as they prepared to leave,

they say shows occupy protesters breaking into city hall saturday night and burning an american flag. this is the footage of demonstrators after they stole the american flag from inside city hall and then lit it on fire. city hall footage shows what happened earlier. papers fly and protesters dump trashannds arou and throw objects. more than 100 occupy protesters broke into city hall. >> we do know that the doors to city hall were, indeed, locked. and you see the pry tool working its way in through the doors so they could force the lock. >> police claim occupiers ran through offices, threw furniture on sidewalks and damaged a 100-year-old model of city hall. >>> pg&e customers can refuse to have those controversial smart meters. but it will cost them. that's the decision of state regulators after a stream of consumer complaints. opponents packed the meeting in san francisco, with members of advocacy groups from marin county to san luis obispo to testify. they argue that the meters emit harmful raidation, and they shouldn't have to pay more to keep the analog models. >> you cannot discriminate aga

. >> december crating the stars and stripes, new video shows what the uke occupiers did to the american flag i'm not worried about the very poor. we have a safety net. >> romney didn't have much time to celebrate his win from florida. he spent most of the day explaning that comment. good evening. i'm dana king. >> i'm ken batista. a scary three hour ordeal. >> a man trapped in a muddy trench in front of a house where he was working. it happened in brentwood in east contra costa after annual out rescue he was pulled out alive. robert is in brentwood and tells you how it happened. >> reporter: neighbors next to 1594 don view, the house behind me said they had sewer problems so this morning they saw a plumber out here start digging in to clay so dense it looked like brick. he got eight feet down, 12 feet long and then the plumber climbed in. they say he was on his knees when all of the dirt, all of this soil carved in on him. >> 5:30 this evening a report of person trapped in a trench. >> when fire crew as lived the chief said they found an unbelievable site. a man swallowed by the earth. >> th

it began with protesters waving the american flag. he background, someone proudly shouted "oakland" but then a glow and soon the flag was on fire. at the hands of some occupy oakland protesters while a few others chanted in encouragement. they had taken the flag from inside city hall just moments earlier. >> we do know that the doors to city hall were, indeed, locked, and you can actually see the pry tool working its way in between the doors so they could force the lock, break it and then open. >> reporter: as soon as the doors o opdoor s, protesters break into city hall. a line of them. bun rig one right after the other. oakland police spokesperson said the crowd inside quickly grew to more than 100. city hall surveillance cameras captured all the destruction. papers started to fly as protesters dumped trash cans, throwing around small objects, making into offices and knocking over a 100-year-old model of city hall. >> and this model is what is believed to be the architect's only model of city hall. that was damaged. >> reporter: for

activists to stay away from city hall plaza following last weekend's melee involving the burning of the american flag. plus, a look at grassroots efforts to save san francisco's treasured coit tower murals from decay due to years of neglect and exposure from the fog. coming up next. >> belva: good evening. i'm belva davis and welcome to "this week in northern california." joining me on our news panel tonight are josh richman, bay area news group's political reporter. jolie o'dell, reporter for "venture beat." carla marinucci, ploit call reporter with the "san francisco chronicle," joining us from las vegas. carla, we know they say what happens in vegas stays in vegas. but how are the republican presidential candidates changing their message to reach voters here in western states? >> yeah, belva, you're right. first in the west caucuses in nevada and it is all about western issues. the candidates are talking water and immigration. but they're also talking about issues we know in california, but that are even deeper here in nevada. the highest unemployment rate in the nation in nevada. the highest home

burning the american flag. get out of vietnam. a lot of uncertainty about young people that felt they would be drafted into the war that they didn't know what the purpose was about. give these students a sense of the fabric of the country that year. >> the country was polarized and divided, but the vast majority of the country was with nixon, was with basically standing by the troops in vietnam. and the demonstrators, leett's take the ones in chicago. the vast majority of americans, people, the vast majority of americans felt the cops were their kids. let me tell you a story, wroit a state when mark rudd and the others took over colombia. it really just blasted the students for what they were doing. they took over the dean's office and trashed his office. there were all sorts of things that went on that were premt disgusting. a wrote a statement for nixon condemning and blasting that. some of the nixon staff were apauled by it t. a "new york times" poll found that 95% of americans agreed with me and disagreed with the demonstrators

on one end of the plaza, you will see the occupy demonstrators and you might notice them with the american flag hoisted upside down. on the other side of the plaza, right in front of city hall, are what they're calling counter occupy demonstrators and these are the ones who don't want the occupy movement to go violent. who don't like the destruction of city hall and they're all standing in front of city hall with green arm bands that say i stand for oakland. this is supposed to be a day of action and it began this morning when demonstrators decided to pack the courtroom. >> instead of being charged with resisting arrest, which is probably a charge that they could not make out, they were charged with, instead, blocking the sidewalk. >> a dozen occupy oakland protesters faced a judge this morning to contest the charges. but now, the court changed all of that, with blocking the sidewalk. a low level misdemeanor. >> i called the d.a. and asked the d.a. why they're charging occupy with crazy crimes with no merit at all. >> reporter: adam cap showed video that he took himself january 4. he is backing

apparently a sniper union was seen posing with the american flag and there's also a banner with what looks like the logo of the nazi ss. the marines say they believe this wasn't a case of racism. the snipers thought ss stood for sniper scouts. >>> campaign 2012 now. thousands of conservatives have gathered in washington this weekend to hear the gop presidential candidates make their pitch for their votes. and as danielle nottingham reports, it could be a make-or- break moment for many of the candidate. >>> reporter: these are the conservative movers and shakers that could turn rick santorum's newfound momentum into a presidential nomination. >> who has that strong track record and th contrast? >> you! >> okay. >> reporter: santorum is coming off a big week. he won contests in three states and a fox news poll shows him neck and neck with mitt romney. romney has struggled to win over conservatives. today he worked to convince the crowds he is one of them. >> we conservatives aren't just proud to cling to our guns and religion. we also proud to cling to our constitution. >> reporter: new

newly released video shows what the "occupiers" did to the american flag when they broke into city hall. >>> soak up all that sunshine out there. how clear skies can reduce your risk of stroke. >>> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow in the cbs 5 weather center. lots of sunshine right now all the way to the coastline. but there's some rain in the forecast. we will tell you when coming up. ,,,, worst soccer violence in 15- years. three days of mourning are underway for the 74-people who died in the riots. >>> many egyptians are blaming military rulers for the worst soccer violence in years. 70 people died in the riots. some were suffocate or crushed to death trying to escape. fans say police on scene stood by and did nothing about those riots. the police chief and the region's governor have now resigned over the game day violence. >>> later today "occupy oakland" may file a class action lawsuit against the police. they accuse the officers of misconduct and police brutality during saturday's rally more than 400 people arrested that day. the allegations come as the city is taking legal a

sonoma, and the american settlers were able to take the fort, and a fellow by the name of william todd got himself a white bedsheet, a couple of cans of paint, and he painted the original bear flaghich is still today the flag of the state of california. >> that revolt became known as the "bear flag revolt." the bear symbolized strength. the star was a reference to the lone star of texas. the californians saw texas as an ally in their struggle with mexico. the original flag was destroyed during the san francisco earthquake of 1906. however, early photos of it still existed, and a slightly modified version became the official state flag in 1911. by the way, william todd, the pioneer who drew the flag on a bedsheet, was the nephew of mary todd, abraham lincoln's wife. with "flag facts," i'm kristen. >> stress is an all-too-familiar feeling, but you can do something about it. here's scott. >> here's some good news for all you gamesters out there. professor of psychology dr. sian beilock says video games can actually be good for your brain. >> it's true. let's start with early childhood first. there's research that shows that some types of video games may help develop motor skills. a

and as a consequent, they had spent in farragut's case 50 years under the american flag, most of it away from the united states. and they had a more national outlook, a more national perspective, i think, than some of their counterparts. i think that's especially true in the case of percival dreighton compared with his brother thomas. >> you took us through to july of 1862. what was farragut doing for the

vandalize property and set the american flag on fire. >> occupiers now have become the 1%. as far as i'm concerned. and the 99 percent of us who live in oakland are being without city services including police. >> you stand for the chamber of corporate crime. that's what you people stand for. >>reporter: occupy oakland demonstrators say they were fighting against police 0prichlingts you need to be called out. the police department is brutal. it's on the door step of federal receive orship. >> trying to build our neighborhood up. you come here and you tear our city apart. >>reporter: not only oakland resident and business people who are upset. members of the occupy movement itself are splintering off into their own groups. >> it has been hijacked. there's group in oakland that has hijacked occupy. >>reporter: vivian retired doctor helped start the occupy bay area jewish contingent. one of several groups that decided marching is less effective than tapping legal political channel. >> we felt it was necessary for us to take the name oakland out of our official name. >>reporter

honor him by using the reverse of the swiss flag for our symbol -- the red cross against a white background. >> returning to the united states, she founded the american red cross in 1881. and ever since then, the american red cross has been helping people in need. what are some of the big disasters the red cross responded to? >> the red cross has been responding to disasters since its beginnings in 1881, when there was a large wildfire across michigan. and early on, the red cross also responded to floods in johnstown, pennsylvania, when a dam broke, and a major hurricane that hit off of the coast of south carolina and georgia. the red cross still responds to major disasters today, in modern times, such as 9/11 and hurricane katrina, and even small disasters like everyday house fires. >> what about wars? >> the american red cross trained tens of thousands of nurses for world war i and world war ii, and it also helped with all the major conflicts throughout the 20th century. >> every year, the american red cross responds to more than 70,000 emergencies. they provide first aid, food and shelter to victims of all kinds of disasters, from local flooding a

the streets of benghazi. and here's a quote about a fellow. he decided to bring along a flag to the demonstration. it wasn't the ubiquitous libyan rebel flag. he chose the american flag with stars and stripes on a long, heavy pull. quote lydians love america he explained as he cuts or a boisterous crowd that numbered in the tens of thousands. they love the flag because it stands for freedom and democracy. exactly what they want for libya. so first of all, this is an interesting point of view. this is a statement made by somebody who, since gadhafi had been there for 43 years and controlled everything in the newspapers come you can imagine that praise of america was not something he was weaned on. this is something he didn't learn in school but this is something managed to seep through to people in a closed society. so it's not just praise but there's an image and there. so i go further. i want to see. so much of the concern people have had is about these annual studies that come out now, that the pew global sender does. global attitudes come in jewelry every gym in the come out with their annual study that image of america went down or went out. this is not a st

vandalize property and set the american flag on fire. >> occupiers now have become the 1%. as far as i'm concerned. and the 99 percent of us who live in oakland are being without city services including police. >> you stand for the chamber of corporate crime. that's what you people stand for. >>reporter: occupy oakland demonstrators say they were fighting against police 0prichlingts you need to be called out. the police department is brutal. it's on the door step of federal receive orship. >> trying to build our neighborhood up. you come here and you tear our city apart. >>reporter: not only oakland resident and business people who are upset. members of the occupy movement itself are splintering off into their own groups. >> it has been hijacked. there's group in oakland that has hijacked occupy. >>reporter: vivian retired doctor helped start the occupy bay area jewish contingent. one of several groups that decided marching is less effective than tapping legal political channel. >> we felt it was necessary for us to take the name oakland out of our official name. >>reporter

the quintessential american hero. so you can imagine the special pride we in ohio have for this native son of the buckeye state. how appropriate it was that the senator was asked to carry the american flag in this winter's olympic games. as annie mentioned, we at ohio state are blessed to be the home of the john glenn instituted for public service, public john gle. the distinguished director is with us this evening, debra merit. debra, would you please stand? thank you. inspired by john glenn's career and his vision, the institute is having a major impact on our students, faculty and programs. just ask the students from tins tut's washington internship program who are here this evening. we gather this evening on the 40th anniversary of senator glenn's historic flight to hear this distinguished american deliver the 2002 verir in vonn bron memorial lek sure. many of you will recall as i do the enormous sense of national pride we felt 40 years ago today as we sat glued to our television sets to watch astronaut john glenn lift off the face of the earth, cirqoupl navigate the globe and land safely in the atlantic ocean. he became, of course, an instant national hero. few, if any, have ever c

throughout new york city and atlantic city, and he is buying furniture for his hotels that he flies the american flag outside of. the bid comes in from china 20% lower than the u.s. manufacturer. and he buys the chinese furniture. you know what? is everything the bottom line? be an american. be a patriot. pay the extra 20% and feel good about it. and really, that's all i've got to say. thanks. >> well, you know, we have lost a lot of manufacturing. and i don't think there is many districts that have lost more than mine. i represent northeast ohio just south of cleveland, akron, youngstown, ravenna, you know, halfway between cleveland and pittsburgh, the old steel belt. some of these we aren't going to get back. we're not going to get back the tweezer manufacturer. i think our focus needs to be how do we make america competitive to make the high-end advanced manufacturing products that we can sell to the world, the advance batteries that the president talked about. and if we're going to do that, we need a government that is smart. and it's not this all government is bad, all we need to do is make the

flag. not the ubiquitous rebel flag that floods every rally but the american flag with the stars and stripes on a poll. and numbering in the tens of thousands spans for freedom and democracy and exactly what they 14 libya. first of all,, this is an interesting point* of view and a statement made by somebody since gaddafi had been there 43 years and controlled everything you can imagine praise of america is not something he was weaned on this is not something he learned in school but managed to see through in a closed society. so much of the consent people have had is the annual studies that come out and they're quite professionally done of global attitude and you read every june image of america went down or up. this is not a study of the images but more of a popularity contest. are you favorable or unfavorable? when i talk about image is bad things like freedom and democracy or the imperialists or land of opportunity or rich or poor. those are images. we have seen the radical chefs in our attitude surveys but they are not necessarily a failure of imagery and that is the important part of wh

the use of a pry tool. protestors entering after and grabbed this u.s. flag and shortly after, protestors said the american flag on fire. >> they enter and shortly after that, destructive behaviors begin. >> and activists attempting to occupy this building they say to establish a head quarters and community center, police blocked the would be occupiers. in the end several demonstrators and police officers were injured and 400 protestor as reftd accusing officers of suppressing free speech and that is an accusation officers deny. >> our officers support free speech but don't support people breaking the law. >> i want to believe underneath those war suits you're human. >> today, some held a press conpresence to defend their actions over the weekend and to condemn what they call violent actions by oakland police officers. >> to these monsters and these riot gear they don't look hu. they've got this look in their eyes. who cares if some windows are broken, you know? people are what is important. >> sometimes those guys scare me. >> this store owner is concerned about the movement, tactics and what it means for

the u.s. flag on its flagpole. they exit the building and shortly after that protesters set the american flag on fire. >> protesters enter and then shortly after that destructive behavior begins. >> reporter: the police describe the saturday evening clash with demonstrators as a street battle. activists attempting to occupy this abandoned building they say to establish it as a headquarters and community center but police locked the would-be occupiers. in the end, several del monitor straighters and police officers injured. protesters accusing officers denying their free speech which the officers deny. >> they don't support people breaking the law. >> i want to believe that underneath the ridiculous war suits you are human. >> reporter: today, some of the demonstrators held a press conference to defend actions over the weekend and condemn what they describe and violent and unwarranted actions by oakland police officers. >> these monsters with the ryeat gear don't even look human and they have this look in their eyes. who cares if the windows are broken, you know, people are what is important. >> sometimes those guys

the video shows protesters grabbing the american flag, taking it outside and lighting it on fire.ed your help identifying those people who will face charges. back out here live, a few hours ago members of "occupy oakland" say they held a meting meting meting to -- >> reporter: today on the steps of oakland city hall, members of occupy plan to sue the city of oakland for police violence. >> i was arrested saturday night and i saw many incidences of cruelty from what appeared to be robotic monster type people. >> reporter: many say police officers in riot gear were not out to protect and serve the people but attack occupiers. the new police chief sees it differently. he says officers tactics are dictated by proteasessers -- protesters. >> if they cause damage and break out windows, our job is to respond. >> when you put people in uniform with shotguns and tear gas, that is called military tactics. >> reporter: since october 25, he says his department dealt with 60,000 people who took part in occupy matches. most of which were peaceful. still there is a team of officers dedicated to

protesters broke into city hall and caused damage that included burning the american flag that you see here. more than 400 people were arrested and at least three officers were injured.1 >>reporter: 12 people have in order to stay away from frank ogawa plaza. but the protests from last week, here is a video of some of the arrest. coke in oakland and dean kron said the vandalism and activities related to occupy oakland has cost the city $5 million since the first protest tent up outside of city hall last october. >>reporter: the this surveillance video that showed what happened. three people are in custody this morning. we have more on the shooting including why nearby food truck owners are worried about their safety. >>reporter: a surveillance camera captured a shootout between a top will track owner and two would-be robbers. this happened early thursday morning at the corner of foothill boulevard. you can see the owner king of the parking lot. two men walked in and pointed a gun and then demanded money. instead of complying, the owner pulled out his gun and fired at the two suspects w

. >> on this day in 1945 marines raised the american flag on the island of iwo jima.troops spent months preparing for the attack. they built a deadly system of tunnels and heavily fortified their positions. all that would be no match for the tens of thousands of leather next. the pmarines braved heavy fire and suicide attacks to take over the island. when they reached the top a photographer captured this iconic moment. it has become one of the most duplicated photos in history. thousands of americans died take that go island but the star-spangled banner yet waived 67 years ago today. now you know the news. for in thursdayeb

if we had afghans burning the american flag and afghans burning the american flag, the outrage from myagues here at fox would be so loud. we have to take into account this is the role of the president. when you make a mistake as a country --. >> heather: here is something else. which rick grenell brought this up. he said, this brought up a good point. we are now discovering that the qurans had been desecrated and there were writings and things and such in them. the officers involved were following the rules and regulations of islam and honoring islam. >> sort of desecrated quran, this is just a book. i don't think any personal faith whether the bible or quran would appreciate their book being denigrated as just a book. look, i don't know. my experience with apologies doesn't to go head of state, it goes to relationships which is similar to jehmu's point. as a nation we can only control but we can't control the afghans but just because they aren't responding appropriately doesn't mean that. >> you apologize when something is really, really wrong. this was unintentional, from heather's p

and in jalalabad, they burned the american flag. afghans are angry after copies of the koran, the muslim holy book, were found burned in the trash at the u.s. mailitary base in -- military base in bagram. this man says, i urge all of the afghan people to defend the koran. even if it costs their lives, they must defend the koran. >> reporter: two days of protests across the country have turned deadly. afghan security forces have turned to water cannons. even gunfire to try to disperse the crowds. at least seven people have been killed. the u.s. has apologized and said the korans were confiscated after detainees wrote terrible messages inside. >> we took swift actions. >> reporter: the violence has forced the u.s. to lock down its embassy in kabul and keep its staff from traveling. >>> officials are also investigating unconfirmed reports that another six protestors may have been killed in another area of afghanistan. >>> more bodies are discovered aboard the shipwrecked costa concordia, more than a month after the ship struck rocks off

and the could gusty conditions, the two flags here, the american flag is just moving back and forth.s i move my camera down, you can see the trees is blowing back and forth as well. when you leave the house definitely be careful. the wind will probably be here for quite some time giving you a one- two punch when you're leaving your home. >> mark: a big ruling in the battle over the same-sex marriage ban. >> mark: the expected ruling is not necessarily the last that no matter which way the rule. this will mean an appeal to an expanded 11 judge panel to the appeals court. >> darya: we the fifth to who started this battle. they believe they will be victorious today. >> we want to finish this process and reversing a proposition that california discriminates against a group of people against sandy and i and our family. >> marriages the turn that our society honors, is the term that we are fighting for and to were not worth fighting for why would we be doing it? marriage embodies what we are, we are a family, we will--we are a couple and we want that same title as others in should not be a