the american enterprise institute. fund by some 1,200 donors including exxon mobile, the american petroleum institute, the walmart foundationshs the pharmaceutical industry and the chairman of the carlisle group. that's the global private equity firm with the touch of minus. it's not love that give these powers their clout in washington. it is money. so what's this former professor of the french horn, yes, the french horn, up to and how did he reach the top of the conservative pecking order in washington? one thing by teaching business, government and economics for years at syracuse university. for another, by writing ten books. this is the most recent "the road to freedom: how to win the fight for free enterprise." and by his own pill gram grimmage to understand how human beings are more than the sum of their material ap tights. last year he went to india to meet with one of the great spiritual shepard z of our time prompt i prompting the vanity fair magazine to ask why was the dali lama hanging out with the american institute? a good question given that the dahli lama paid a visit in washington. arthur brooks, welcome. wh

host: groups like the american petroleum institute put out information on development on government landsfederal governments hold an -- federalf governments hold a lot of minerals. guest: there is a tremendous amount of public land available for energy development. policies that have been more lenient than we would like to see have created a problem of excess, not access. there are more drilling permits in the hands of the oil companies tha are being utilizedn. recently, we have seen companies put forward fewer nominations for lance. the lands they dominate -- nominate -- we have a glut in the national -- natural gas market. we think it is important responsible energy development of several uses that coexists with conservation areas. protecting places americans love need not come at the end of -- at the expense of developing energy we need. we can guide development where they do not conflict with areas of high recreation value or places people want to see protected. we are working with stakeholders and industry and conservation partners provided comments to the interior department who is